BadAim Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) Your In-game Name: BadAim Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:81238702 The admin's name in-game: Sparkle The admin's steam name: [GL] RDSparkle What warning did you receive: Prop Minge (as D-class) When did you receive this warning: 8/15/2020 Why do you think this warn was false: There are 2 things that are done when the elevator breaks: Either a player calls staff, or they put a prop down, and send someone to the top of the elevator to press the button (which fixes it). I decided to do the latter of which as it was much faster, and after I had done so and the elevator had been fixed, I had been brought to a room and been told that what I did was considered prop minging. He then informed me that a player had already called staff to fix the elevator (how would I be aware of this), because of this, and that I was a 2 time offender for prop minging, he was going to issue a warning. This whole situation is beyond ridiculous, as this is very commonly done as the elevator usually breaks plenty of times every day. I fail to see where I am at fault here and I think that this is ridiculous Evidence the warning is false: Anyone who plays Class-D can tell you how common this is to done. Any extra information: Sparkle said that a warning I had received 1 year ago for an unrelated situation made him believe that I was a 2 time offender for prop minging. Edited August 16, 2020 by BadAim 1 Retired Imperial RP Super Admin and Grand General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enuz 💣 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 +Support for the appeal seems pretty childish to warn someone for trying to fix something 3 2 Former Head of Janitorial | HCZ man geer | lvl 70 life wizard | Roblox Clothing Designer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack S Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) +/-Support, leaning to + It is still prop minging to spawn a prop in D-block as a D-class. A staff member can always fix the elevator, but yes, this happens a lot. Usually I see nobody caring, but I guess somebody cared enough to report it. This is usually a easy fix that you in most intentions wanted to help! Edit: Just realized, no matter what it's a warn, so I'm keeping it at a plus but you still should've waited for staff, but the warn getting removed can be ok. Edited August 16, 2020 by [GL] loudyfam (Jack S) 1 Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 +support honestly i see this happen ALL the time and this is the first time I've seen someone get formally warned for it. I think this really could have just been a verbal tbh but that's just me. 1 CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) I had a very strong feeling you would post this. So I received a sit to fix the elevator in D-block. Normal stuff with that elevator. In that process, I see a chair being flown up past the elevator with a D-Class in seat. I traced the chair to Mr. BadAim and executed the sit. His justification was that "I've seen other people do it all the time" which I felt was not valid whatsoever. He also claims "if I knew the sit was submitted, I wouldn't have done it". Seeing others violate MOTD does not justify violating it yourself. He could've called staff at that moment and let it be handled. Honestly, I'm just disappointed. Edited August 16, 2020 by Sparkle Confused MOTD with SOP 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clistro Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said: +support honestly i see this happen ALL the time and this is the first time I've seen someone get formally warned for it. I think this really could have just been a verbal tbh but that's just me. 12 minutes ago, enuz said: +Support for the appeal seems pretty childish to warn someone for trying to fix something United States Reserve General / Retired 1944 US GOA Rho 36 CO Occult Operative/ MTF Epsilon Eleven Commander Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 +Support sparkle was the only staff on and calling a staff to deal with a problem that you can deal with yourself is, in my opinion, a waste of time for the staff and player Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samall56 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said: +support honestly i see this happen ALL the time and this is the first time I've seen someone get formally warned for it. I think this really could have just been a verbal tbh but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Sparkle said: I had a very strong feeling you would post this. So I received a sit to fix the elevator in D-block. Normal stuff with that elevator. In that process, I see a chair being flown up past the elevator with a D-Class in seat. I traced the chair to Mr. BadAim and executed the sit. His justification was that "I've seen other people do it all the time" which I felt was not valid whatsoever. He also claims "if I knew the sit was submitted, I wouldn't have done it". Seeing others violate MOTD does not justify violating it yourself. He could've called staff at that moment and let it be handled. Honestly, I'm just disappointed. Also sadly its staffs discretion to warn someone and this is a infraction of the MOTD so sadly this warning in technical terms is valid SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rektify Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Sparkle said: I had a very strong feeling you would post this. So I received a sit to fix the elevator in D-block. Normal stuff with that elevator. In that process, I see a chair being flown up past the elevator with a D-Class in seat. I traced the chair to Mr. BadAim and executed the sit. His justification was that "I've seen other people do it all the time" which I felt was not valid whatsoever. He also claims "if I knew the sit was submitted, I wouldn't have done it". Seeing others violate MOTD does not justify violating it yourself. He could've called staff at that moment and let it be handled. Honestly, I'm just disappointed. I can understand Badaim's desire to try and fix the elevator but I believe that this is something that staff should handle, not you Badaim. You are a retired staff member and, as former staff, using the excuse of "I've seen other people do it all the time" is not valid. If his warn is removed, I'm fine with it but based off the situation alone and due to staff discretion..-Support ~Your Local SCP Lead Admin~ Aka: Rekti-HighThe REAL Don Godfather 527 | CEO of the Minge Team | The Baby Joe | Leader of the Fish Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack (utility one) Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 -support His intentions was pure but his execution was not. Sadly it is breaking the rules and having an argument that everyone else is doing it doesn't make it valid, I've seen it done and flew down there and just said don't do it again. But it's the staff members discretion if a warn should be handed out, and saying it should of been a verbal is not a valid reason nor argument any more. There are gods in Alabama: Jack Daniel's, high school quarterbacks, trucks, big tits, and also Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 2 hours ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said: +support honestly i see this happen ALL the time and this is the first time I've seen someone get formally warned for it. I think this really could have just been a verbal tbh but that's just me. 2 hours ago, Sparkle said: -/+ support, well, the warn is valid, but it's kinda just dumb that you need to wait for staff when you are literally able to do it yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 +Support With the lack of staff on recently badaim attempted to fix a situation for the better whilst nobody gaining any advantages over each other (Unless the person sent up attacked somebody immediately lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Dtscalice Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Orange said: +Support With the lack of staff on recently badaim attempted to fix a situation for the better whilst nobody gaining any advantages over each other (Unless the person sent up attacked somebody immediately lol) 2 hours ago, Ritz said: +Support sparkle was the only staff on and calling a staff to deal with a problem that you can deal with yourself is, in my opinion, a waste of time for the staff and player +Support Truth is just a matter of perspective. The duty of every soldier is to protect the innocent ~Captain Price (Modern Warfare 2) Former CMD Positions: E11 1LT, Medical Chief Manager, CI LT and SRIC, Alpha 1 CPL, RRH Squad Lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 -Support I can definitely see were your coming from but this is breaking the rules. You had good intentions but if the elevator is broke you need to call staff. Somone spawning a prop, having someone sit on it, and phygunning it from LDB to UDB is prop minging. "I've seen other people do it" isnt an excuse. [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 56 minutes ago, Orange said: +Support With the lack of staff on recently badaim attempted to fix a situation for the better whilst nobody gaining any advantages over each other (Unless the person sent up attacked somebody immediately lol) 3 hours ago, Ritz said: +Support sparkle was the only staff on and calling a staff to deal with a problem that you can deal with yourself is, in my opinion, a waste of time for the staff and player It is staff's choice but I feel sparkle could've just said "Thanks for helpin but next time just call staff as Class-D aren't allowed to spawn props." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 +Support, as long as he wasn't causing harm I feel like a warn is way too far, especially if he was trying to help. || Retired GenSec || STARS || J04 "Crest" || Foul Tarnished || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) - support - Me personally I would of just given a verbal warning as obviously the prop usage wasn't used for malicious intent and badaim was trying to help, however obviously you did break the MOTD so the warning is valid just a very harsh punishment for the situation. Changing to + support it just shouldn't of been a warn for a such a little action that was a benefit for everybody on the server. Edited August 17, 2020 by Dang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) -Support While you were trying to do the right thing, you broke two rules. Spawning props as D-Class and abusing props. The warning is valid. Also to people saying that is should've been a Verbal. It is Staff's Discretion about punishment and the Handbook says Verbal or Formal. Edited August 16, 2020 by [GL] Inaccurate "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da da da Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 +support there have been times were i have waited up to 15-20 mins for an admin to fix an elevator would have done the same thing myself, this is extremely low tier and should have been a verbal in every way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mint Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 +support literally did nothing wrong i do this all the time MTF Nu7 Major || E11 1LT || Old CI SGT || Ret.LeadResearcher || || RHO-36 Penumbra Squad || || Mikes Favorite Son || OH3 RRH || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead man [GL] Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 +support imma be honest while it was breaking the rules, it was trying to fix a problem. Im going to assume for this that sparkle flagged on to take the sit right before it was about to dissappear so he thought that nobody was coming and took it into his own hands. It's kinda petty to warn somebody for trying to help as it was not malicious in any sense MTF E11 VCMDR Mateo C0RN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, Forehead man [GL] said: +support imma be honest while it was breaking the rules, it was trying to fix a problem. Im going to assume for this that sparkle flagged on to take the sit right before it was about to dissappear so he thought that nobody was coming and took it into his own hands. It's kinda petty to warn somebody for trying to help as it was not malicious in any sense Not to change your opinion or anything. Just setting the story straight. I was already on administration for previous sits and took the elevator sit immediately as it appeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
𝙹𝚘𝚜𝚑 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 8 hours ago, [GL] Inaccurate said: -Support While you were trying to do the right thing, you broke two rules. Spawning props as D-Class and abusing props. The warning is valid. Also to people saying that is should've been a Verbal. It is Staff's Discretion about punishment and the Handbook says Verbal or Formal. sorry badaim, whether you were trying to fix something staff should, its still prop minge Currently SM Josh 1B65 | Trooper Josh 1T "A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better then a master of one"Recently retired USM CPT, Deputy Head Dispatcher, Police RP Moderator, POL Level 10 (High Com), CPT Josh 1L65 and SCU SGT Josh 1R65 | Staffing: Ex Senior Moderator IMPRP - Retired Moderator PRP x2, MILRP - Retired Event team IMPRP, MILRP | Biggest Ranks: Retired Storm Trooper Vice Commander - Retired COL USMC MARSOC and FORECON Head - CPT+ in all branch's of US in MILRP - Experience in 9 different Departments PRP | Member Since late 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gh0pit Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 17 hours ago, Ritz said: +Support sparkle was the only staff on and calling a staff to deal with a problem that you can deal with yourself is, in my opinion, a waste of time for the staff and player Retired CMDR of Epsilon-11 D-Class Main/CI gang/RHO 36 Detective ~You say stop it, I say Gh0pit~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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