Proximo Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Your in game name:Prox Your Steam ID:STEAM_0:1:14248048 The player's in game name:Knuckles The player's steam ID (required):STEAM_0:1:92194481 Date and Time This Incident Occurred:around 12 am What did the player do:Meta Game an EOI operative Evidence (required):https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/iYrRoBMZzjJ4J/d1337Oki7v00?invite=cr-MSw1R1gsMjY1NDMzMzEs What do you believe should happen to the player:An warn Any extra information:N/A Former E11 Captain, D5 Sergeant, V1 [EOI], CI LT, and Nu7 LTCurrent E11 LCPL|Riot Shield Abuser|Cloak hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripjaw56789 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 +/- (Leaning towards +support) Seems like obvious metagame to me. Will be awaiting Knuckles side before I give a definitive answer on my support because maybe there was something called in TS by someone else. Also seems like there was staff on why not just call them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 -Support "Private MTF Comms" that your superior doesn't have access to? That'd most certainly get you arrested considering how suspicious that is. All he asked was "are you good Corporal?" and you provided some really suspicious information off of that. He then continues to ask what comms because yeah, he'd be able to see any of the comms you have available to you if you were actually a CPL. You then say "private MTF comms" which he would know don't exist. I see no reason this deserves a warning. You just gave yourself away. 1 Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 -Support Bad at lying 1 1 CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunch Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Nydekore said: -Support "Private MTF Comms" that your superior doesn't have access to? That'd most certainly get you arrested considering how suspicious that is. All he asked was "are you good Corporal?" and you provided some really suspicious information off of that. He then continues to ask what comms because yeah, he'd be able to see any of the comms you have available to you if you were actually a CPL. You then say "private MTF comms" which he would know don't exist. I see no reason this deserves a warning. You just gave yourself away. @Knuckles Your side? Edited April 25, 2022 by sage 1 i am always correct and will always be better than you #JusticeForTrojan #SlideForRacc #:3 Former: Imperial High Command | Deathtrooper Senior Commander | Senior Admin | Senior Forum Diplomat | Support Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydrix Weeb Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Nydekore said: -Support "Private MTF Comms" that your superior doesn't have access to? That'd most certainly get you arrested considering how suspicious that is. All he asked was "are you good Corporal?" and you provided some really suspicious information off of that. He then continues to ask what comms because yeah, he'd be able to see any of the comms you have available to you if you were actually a CPL. You then say "private MTF comms" which he would know don't exist. I see no reason this deserves a warning. You just gave yourself away. 1 Current Ranks: N/A Former Ranks: CI SFTO HLS Major D4 Ambrose IV RRH Guardian Romeo 13 SCP-RP Senior Admin RFM EXM CCU CC's: MTF E11 'Last Call' CI Recon Force Frank West MTF Sigma 66 Trooper CI TF2 Heavy Security Elite Sniper The Mets Farmer Jakub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, sage said: @Knuckles Your side? Nydekore pretty much nailed what logic was running through my head at the time Side note: hearing my own voice in a video just sounds really weird Edited April 26, 2022 by Knuckles Over explaining when someone else already read my mind 1 When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons what the hell am I supposed to do with these?! Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am?! I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down... with the lemons. I'm going to get my engineers to invent me a combustible lemon, that burns your house down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 +Support Idk what fucking cocaine yall are on but people can privately contact other people through the usage of comms like what RRH do [RRH-05] or [Some Weeb - Sixx] My guess? Yall pulling that "Globally accepted rule" shit out yo ass again lmao. 2 1 SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggy Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Some Weeb said: +Support Idk what fucking cocaine yall are on but people can privately contact other people through the usage of comms like what RRH do [RRH-05] or [Some Weeb - Sixx] My guess? Yall pulling that "Globally accepted rule" shit out yo ass again lmao. The thing is he wouldn't from what I experienced in my time as a Delta-5 2LT you wouldn't ask someone if their good, you wouldn't be suspicious of the Tau-5 if it was just a regular Tau-5 the whole point of disguises is so you treat them the same way you would treat any other MTF I think that this is minor metagame/powergame Edited April 26, 2022 by Soggy Quote Former |Delta-5 2LT | Medical SM | SEC FTO SM/WDL| CI RND SCR SWB IIN/CI LCPL | MJ | EOI Overseer Leviathan D1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvist Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 The answer is definitely grounds for an AOS, no question about it. A reasonable person would find it suspicious that somebody who reports to him is on a private MTF channel that he himself does not have access to. However, my question is if the reported party would approach any Nu-7 member that he outranked like that if he didn't realize the guy was an EOI. I don't think it's fair to assume the worst right off, so I'd like to know that first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Yeah - Support, from his perspective it looked like you were just stood AFK in a corridor, he asked what was up and you said yeah just speaking in private MTF comms , which imo is a little suspicious considering he IS mtf and a higher rank then you, perhaps if you'd said like private comms in general ,maybe but idk this seems like you gave yourself away. || Retired GenSec || STARS || J04 "Crest" || Foul Tarnished || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPL Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Nydekore said: -Support "Private MTF Comms" that your superior doesn't have access to? That'd most certainly get you arrested considering how suspicious that is. All he asked was "are you good Corporal?" and you provided some really suspicious information off of that. He then continues to ask what comms because yeah, he'd be able to see any of the comms you have available to you if you were actually a CPL. You then say "private MTF comms" which he would know don't exist. I see no reason this deserves a warning. You just gave yourself away. SCP-RP | Maintenance Expert | HLPR Bot bT5 | Senior Researcher | Senior Event Team Member Custom Classes | Umbrella Corporation Operative "Pathos" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operator Houston Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Some Weeb said: +Support Idk what fucking cocaine yall are on but people can privately contact other people through the usage of comms like what RRH do [RRH-05] or [Some Weeb - Sixx] My guess? Yall pulling that "Globally accepted rule" shit out yo ass again lmao. Dog based as always. Current: CI Military Private, Junior Maintenance Former: Nu-7 DHFTO 2LT, Delta-5 WO, Research Supervisor, RRH Analyst Alpha 19, SCP-RP Event Team Member, SCP-RP Senior Moderator Jetstream Sam Enthusiast | Gloveless Individual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vuitheirt Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Honestly, I think theirs fault on both sides, "Private MTF Comms" could mean a million different things but also a giveaway without further detail of the communication. Now from what it looks like Knuckles had really no reason to stop you, but I feel further context leading up to this situation is needed, and I don't think that is possible. So, I'm staying neutral for now. I keep a stiff upper lip and I shoot, shoot, shoot from the hip I got a stiff upper lip, come on baby. Retired Nu7 Captain/Maintenance OM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilThinMints Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Some Weeb said: +Support Idk what fucking cocaine yall are on but people can privately contact other people through the usage of comms like what RRH do [RRH-05] or [Some Weeb - Sixx] My guess? Yall pulling that "Globally accepted rule" shit out yo ass again lmao. Free Melly Free TayK Free Fetty Wap Free Pooh Shiesty Current Rank/s: none dumbass Former Ranks: E11 2LT, CI SM, RND SVA, Gen-Sec MSGT, Nu7 SGT, RRH Guardians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0LT Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 -support Has already been punished in Nu7 2 1 Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx On: Alpha-8 | S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piller Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 This was handled in Nu-7. -Support for any additional action. 3 3 SCP-RP Head of Staff | Ethics Committee Chairman Former Nu-7 VCMDR l Former GenSec CPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyClone Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Meridian said: Yeah - Support, from his perspective it looked like you were just stood AFK in a corridor, he asked what was up and you said yeah just speaking in private MTF comms , which imo is a little suspicious considering he IS mtf and a higher rank then you, perhaps if you'd said like private comms in general ,maybe but idk this seems like you gave yourself away. if the eoi were normal mtf, he would not have just kidnapped him. Once he saw eoi he just instinctfully thought he was suspicious and used little evidence to take him. as if he were a normal mtf he woulda just brushed it off most likely. +/- support Retried: CI LTCMDR CI R&D AIN, E11 CPT, and Research Assistant Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PryingTree Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 14 hours ago, Soggy said: The thing is he wouldn't from what I experienced in my time as a Delta-5 2LT you wouldn't ask someone if their good, you wouldn't be suspicious of the Tau-5 if it was just a regular Tau-5 the whole point of disguises is so you treat them the same way you would treat any other MTF I think that this is minor metagame/powergame yea -support because he was already punished It wouldn't allow me to put a link in here so you are stuck with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) Just so I am clear here: If I get striked in rp for RDM I won't get warned if he reports me, this is grand time to get blacklisted on gensec again.! Idk why yall are giving every possible excuse for this man but A. He ain't immune to being warned cause he got striked B. Private comms do exist its called getting on a different radio channel or comm channel (Sorry if I come off like a douchebag but metgame and power game for eoi is so overlooked its insane) Edited April 26, 2022 by Some Weeb 2 SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevlar_ Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, CyClone said: if the eoi were normal mtf, he would not have just kidnapped him. Once he saw eoi he just instinctfully thought he was suspicious and used little evidence to take him. as if he were a normal mtf he woulda just brushed it off most likely. +/- support Edited April 26, 2022 by Kevlar_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckles Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) I've been trying to stay on the sidelines while just keeping an eye on this thread from time to time, but people keep wondering why I stopped in the first place as there isn't any context provided leading up to that moment. Our interactions up to then had been polite "get to know you" type chats. This is the new guy on site and I want to get to know the guy I'll potentially be patrolling with. Is he cool? Is he the lone wolf type? Can we buy each other drinks when 682 finally fucks off? In this case I walked up to the guy standing outside the interrogation room. A fellow MTF outside an interrogation room is a chance for some great gossip (who'd the redacted nab today or was Bright just throwing someone else in the incinerator?). Considering he was by himself I just wanted to make sure things were going smoothly then get the gossip on whats going down in the interrogation room (insert Chris Pratt reaction meme here). Instead he starts talking about comms which we would most definitely share. Instead of gossip it's more of a record scratch moment. Others in this thread have mentioned private comms such as between two players, but when has ANYONE ever referred to PMs as private comms? I understand CI's frustration considering they get metagamed far too often, but assuming I was out to get this man when I'm just trying to look out for the new guy is absurd Edited April 26, 2022 by Knuckles When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons what the hell am I supposed to do with these?! Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am?! I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down... with the lemons. I'm going to get my engineers to invent me a combustible lemon, that burns your house down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Knuckles said: I've been trying to stay on the sidelines while just keeping an eye on this thread from time to time, but people keep wondering why I stopped in the first place as there isn't any context provided leading up to that moment. Our interactions up to then had been polite "get to know you" type chats. This is the new guy on site and I want to get to know the guy I'll potentially be patrolling with. Is he cool? Is he the lone wolf type? Can we buy each other drinks when 682 finally fucks off? In this case I walked up to the guy standing outside the interrogation room. A fellow MTF outside an interrogation room is a chance for some great gossip (who'd the redacted nab today or was Bright just throwing someone else in the incinerator?). Considering he was by himself I just wanted to make sure things were going smoothly then get the gossip on whats going down in the interrogation room (insert Chris Pratt reaction meme here). Instead he starts talking about comms which we would most definitely share. Instead of gossip it's more of a record scratch moment. Others in this thread have mentioned private comms such as between two players, but when has ANYONE ever referred to PMs as private comms? Now that knuckles has responded I'll give a full response. I'm still partial but I believe I'm going to -Support. The other MTF was guarding the interrogation room alone and I believe that can lead to anyone standing outside and helping. During the time of the video it was Code: Yellow meaning it could have been anything from D-Class Riots to 1 or 2 Euclid SCPs breached. Meaning this MTF most likely didn't have a lot to do. The interrogation room is Level 4+ and Restricted to such which means that whatever goes on inside is usually important and MTF do usually guard outside of it especially depending on who or what is in there. If up to that point they have been having chats such as what Knuckles had been saying then I don't find it so random for Knuckles to stop and find the time to have another one especially as what I had said earlier, it is just a Code Yellow. As for the cuffing aspect I do believe Knuckles could have instead asked more questions to get more information instead of going straight to cuffing him but I don't find it random for Knuckles to attempt to have a talk with him if it was something that had happened multiple times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operator Houston Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Some Weeb said: Just so I am clear here: If I get striked in rp for RDM I won't get warned if he reports me, this is grand time to get blacklisted on gensec again.! Idk why yall are giving every possible excuse for this man but A. He ain't immune to being warned cause he got striked B. Private comms do exist its called getting on a different radio channel or comm channel (Sorry if I come off like a douchebag but metgame and power game for eoi is so overlooked its insane) Yeah, just because someone gets striked on a branch doesn't make them immune to server warns. IMO should be held responsible inside and outside of the branch. Edited April 26, 2022 by Voxial Current: CI Military Private, Junior Maintenance Former: Nu-7 DHFTO 2LT, Delta-5 WO, Research Supervisor, RRH Analyst Alpha 19, SCP-RP Event Team Member, SCP-RP Senior Moderator Jetstream Sam Enthusiast | Gloveless Individual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvist Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Knuckles said: I've been trying to stay on the sidelines while just keeping an eye on this thread from time to time, but people keep wondering why I stopped in the first place as there isn't any context provided leading up to that moment. Our interactions up to then had been polite "get to know you" type chats. This is the new guy on site and I want to get to know the guy I'll potentially be patrolling with. Is he cool? Is he the lone wolf type? Can we buy each other drinks when 682 finally fucks off? In this case I walked up to the guy standing outside the interrogation room. A fellow MTF outside an interrogation room is a chance for some great gossip (who'd the redacted nab today or was Bright just throwing someone else in the incinerator?). Considering he was by himself I just wanted to make sure things were going smoothly then get the gossip on whats going down in the interrogation room (insert Chris Pratt reaction meme here). Instead he starts talking about comms which we would most definitely share. Instead of gossip it's more of a record scratch moment. Others in this thread have mentioned private comms such as between two players, but when has ANYONE ever referred to PMs as private comms? I understand CI's frustration considering they get metagamed far too often, but assuming I was out to get this man when I'm just trying to look out for the new guy is absurd Again, the question is this: do all Nu-7 garner that level of attention from you? Most people do not put that level of effort into their roleplay here but suddenly they're Sherlock Holmes IC when they read an OOC job title. However, to be fair, many EOI have the subtlety of a sledgehammer and are very quick to mistake genuine IC suspicion for metagame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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