Jakub Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) Your in game name: D3 Wicked DIA6 Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:246842155 The player's in game name: Weiss The player's steam ID (required): STEAM_0:0:39334457 What did the player do: Exploit ok so here's some prior information so that people can asses this report properly.The model on this custom class is broken and if the player using it pull out his keys and alt walks or stands still MODEL DOES NOT GO INVISIBLE WHEN STANDING STILL YOU MUST BE CONSTANTLY ALT WALKING TO BE INVISIBLE.now this has already been acknowledged my smt and weiss himself has confirmed that this is how the glitch with the model works in this post : https://gaminglight.com/forums/topic/56906-abuse-of-custom-job-model-completed/Now to my knowledge the owner of this cc has been notified to change the model but to this day it hasn't been removed and the people on it still continue exploiting this. Evidence (required): https://www.azius.org/Garry's Mod 2020.05.30 - 01.54.59.16.DVR_Trim.mp4 https://youtu.be/xlnbrewaZqw edit: we were sniping weiss from the other bridge so he was making himself invisible to not be shot. What do you believe should happen to the player: a ban, this is an admin that has spent plenty of time staffing and knows what the punishment for this is and still did it. Any extra information: although they have been told to change the model they still haven't and continue to abuse so they should be suspended from using it till they get a proper model that they wont be able to abuse. edit: Here is a list of the times weiss uses the exploit of the model multiple times to scout out CI [(As noted by the black shadows) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlnbrewaZqw)] 0:11 (The first time) 0:29 (Used to avoid 682 and then cross the bridge where you cannot see his shadow) 1:10 (He can be seen crossing the bridge back to the elevator) (Proof that this shadow is him, when his model glitches out (https://gyazo.com/0437994681fbe85f182da27d54e54cb6 1:30 (For the final time & when I realize) Rewatched my full end and seen this moments before I had trimmed the start of the past video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg-e2oWJMgI) at 0:07 you can see him abusing his model to peak around the corner and observe the locations of the CI members before going behind cover to switch to a gun and shot at me. Edited May 31, 2020 by Jakub 1 Ex E11 COL, Ex A1 MAJ, Ex AHOTS, Ex Security 2LT, Ex Admin. Current CI 2LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 +Support, the STARS cc model abuse is very commonplace and I have seen it multiple times. I believe it’s about time they get punished for abusing it. Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 @Weiss SCP-RP Moderator | CI LTCOL Boozle LC32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) The little black shadow that can be seen moving is presumably weiss EDIT- moments before the gun fire you can seen his shadow (Him abusing the model) peaking around the corner 0:07 EDIT 3: The model only disappears when holding an animationless swept (On this server it is only KEYS). You must constantly move whilst holding your alt walk key to stay invisible. Standing still will bring the model back. Edited May 31, 2020 by Orange 🍊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cogs Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 +supportModel abuse is clear "The first draft of everything is Shit" - Ernest Hemingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowFlake Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 +Support Evidence is clear CI CPT Snowflake MUTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack II Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) +/- A warn is needed. A ban is too far Also we don't know if he was holding it by accident when trying to move or not Edited May 30, 2020 by Jack II Rejected from the gaminglight community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) + support - I do like you Weiss however this is a bad. - You have clearly exploited your model to have a advantage over Ci and to prevent 682 not killing you. - Also Weiss you already new that you are not meant to abuse the model because igneous has told you not to on the CC post . - Overall you have not listed to SMT and you have exploited a model that you new you were not allowed to exploit to gain a unfair advantage over other players. - I would say a warn/ strike on staff is probably fair. Edited May 30, 2020 by Dang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 -support no 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Bazooka Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) +support -its clear he abused it. Edited May 30, 2020 by [GL] Bazooka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHumanPiano Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Nebulalol said: -support no 1 Gensec MAJ l SFTO l DHWD l S.T.A.R.S. l CI R&D AIN l Exspira Nyx XV7 l Certified Bozo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) +support He's an admin, he should know the rules. A warn is fair Edited May 30, 2020 by Propane Smart person make use correct words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamey Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jack II said: +/- A warn is needed. A ban is too far [SCP-RP] Retired Head Of Security || Retired Field Work Manager || Retired OM3 || Retired Event Team Member [JvS no more] Former FIRST The Grand Inquisitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turner6372 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) - Support It is not clear that the perpetrator was doing that to ambush you or not. that and if they where doing it to ambush you they would not stand right infront of the door they would of hid to the side to make it harder for you to notice them (not to the left of the door like 2 steps more away from the door) on top of all of that in the video it sounds like you are trying to get them into trouble so i cant support this with those things in mind. edit: also a ban is unreasonable since it could have been a mistake on their part. Edited May 30, 2020 by turner6372 adding somthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) +/- Support A ban is too harsh for this, i'd say a warn and forced to change the model and if the owner doesn't change it i'd say delete it. 3 hours ago, Jakub said: pull out his keys and alt walks or stands still they become invisible, From this statement right here it sounds like if he has his keys out he and doesn't move he becomes invisible and this main reason is why i think he should only receive a warn. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Support based on what Kuma said. Edited May 30, 2020 by Sixx [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turner6372 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Orange said: The little black shadow that can be seen moving is presumably weiss this looks eddited to me (can tell barley but i might be wrong (first 5 seconds it looks like a jump cut but idk and if you dont know what im talking about when crouching you have a second interval before you go back up if you release the crouch button. i might be wrong though so dont take my word on this. going to keep watching it over and over to either clear my sus or confirm my sus 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 +Support mhm yes, abuse not conduct that should be coming from an admin broh it's not abuse he was just caught off guard and conveniently alt walked away seems good to me officer Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourCat Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 +support, sorry my man, kinda cringe, I always thought it was like a special feature of the CC that you paid loads for but if its just a bug then that's a major no for me... Imagine being CI and dealing with that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniLeopard Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) +/-Support A ban is a bit much, just because he is an admin doesn't mean he gets a worse punishment. If a normal player did this it would just be a warn not a ban "Unless he has been warned multiple times" So +Support on a warn but -Support on a ban -Support I am changing it to a -Support because of what Kuma said, aka need more context. When I watched the videos again it does look like you caught him off guard and he wasn't doing it on purpose because why would you pull out a melee and not a gun? Edited May 30, 2020 by MiniLeopard Kuma The United Kingdom, made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, is an island nation in north-western Europe. England – birthplace of Shakespeare and The Beatles – is home to the capital, London, a globally influential centre of finance and culture. England is also site of Neolithic Stonehenge, Bath’s Roman spa and centuries-old universities at Oxford and Cambridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 +support for Staff demotion and warn - support on a ban.... SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dragin said: +support for Staff demotion and warn - support on a ban.... Staff demotion is worse than a ban 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Well its not the first time hes done something wrong as a staff member at least a strike. 1 SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kumandant Posted May 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2020 -Support Now wait a minute, did anybody actually watch the evidence? In the first video, it clearly shows that you ambushed Weiss, after going down the elevator. Anybody who cared to look at the video would clearly see Weiss just waiting infront of the elevator with his keys out, a very normal thing to do. 1 hour ago, turner6372 said: if they where doing it to ambush you they would not stand right infront of the door they would of hid to the side to make it harder for you to notice them Turner said it best here. Why would someone planning to sneak up on you, wait at the face of the elevator? It makes more sense to sit behind the wall. The second video is incredibly unclear, you'd have to be majorly biased to take it as solid proof. Ignoring the fact that the video was so dark that I had to brighten the image, the video clearly shows Orange taking a single shot at Weiss, who had already crossed the bridge. Would it not have occurred to anybody that Weiss didn't notice the CI on the elevated bridge? As I said earlier, it's normal to wait for the elevator with your keys out, and he may have only noticed Orange the moment he shot, which was when Weiss had already crossed. I'm not being biased in the slightest with this response. I'm simply making a rebuttal against a player report that was clearly made with malicious intent. Any normal person would simply remind SMT about the model's bug, not try to get someone high ranking banned for fun. It costs money to replace a model, and if SMT still hasn't done anything about it, there's no incentive to shovel out money, just out of good will. It's not like Bael added the model knowing it was broken, why should real money have to be spent to fix what is clearly a mistake? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I mean as a staff you need to be a example to others a GOOD example Dude... he should not have his keys in the first place did you "care" to read the actual words SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Lee Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kumandant said: -Support Now wait a minute, did anybody actually watch the evidence? In the first video, it clearly shows that you ambushed Weiss, after going down the elevator. Anybody who cared to look at the video would clearly see Weiss just waiting infront of the elevator with his keys out, a very normal thing to do. Turner said it best here. Why would someone planning to sneak up on you, wait at the face of the elevator? It makes more sense to sit behind the wall. The second video is incredibly unclear, you'd have to be majorly biased to take it as solid proof. Ignoring the fact that the video was so dark that I had to brighten the image, the video clearly shows Orange taking a single shot at Weiss, who had already crossed the bridge. Would it not have occurred to anybody that Weiss didn't notice the CI on the elevated bridge? As I said earlier, it's normal to wait for the elevator with your keys out, and he may have only noticed Orange the moment he shot, which was when Weiss had already crossed. I'm not being biased in the slightest with this response. I'm simply making a rebuttal against a player report that was clearly made with malicious intent. Any normal person would simply remind SMT about the model's bug, not try to get someone high ranking banned for fun. It costs money to replace a model, and if SMT still hasn't done anything about it, there's no incentive to shovel out money, just out of good will. It's not like Bael added the model knowing it was broken, why should real money have to be spent to fix what is clearly a mistake? Very well said. -Support 1 1 Femboy Hooters. No Cogs he's mine. Omi9 2LT Lee JL6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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