Commander getting Vice Commander reserves. - Denied

[[GL] Mike]

What are you suggesting? - Commander should get Vice Commander Reserves, I do not think getting to Branch Head and resigning should warrant a demotion out of High Command as getting to that position isn't exactly the easiest. (Not to mention Commander USED to get High Command reserves at COL but now it's not so.)

How would this change better the server? - More fair towards the people who get to Branch Heads.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Not really honestly.

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Commander+

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - N/A

Edited November 28, 2020 by [GL] Mike

[Frog]

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

[Comrade Boekhom]

11 minutes ago, frog milk said:

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

 

[Yato Sensei]

46 minutes ago, frog milk said:

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

 

[Mary]

3 hours ago, frog milk said:

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

 

[J0LT]

+support

I think some branches already do this, but im not sure.

[Southpaw]

4 hours ago, frog milk said:

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

 

[Hope]

2 hours ago, Benslaki_II said:

+support

I think some branches already do this, but im not sure.

Nope

 

6 hours ago, frog milk said:

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

 

[Jack S]

6 hours ago, frog milk said:

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

 

[Rangiatea]

I mean, this was never a thing in research, security or utility and you never heard them complain. the only difference between you and them is that you were given those reserves once upon a time. 

Also if we are being honest nearly noone comes back from reserves into a HCMD slot even IF you are given a reserve rank, if memory serves the last person (and the only one i remember) was th3. To even be considered to get those reserves back (if you were given them) you have to be already active within the server and part of that branch so that you understand how the branch now works, you are still given the 3rd highest rank in the branch if you were commander 4 highest if your were vice or deputy. The ONLY difference is that you will be doing rosters SOPs and having one of the final says in how branch decisions go, why you arent content with getting COL no questions asked but want to be denied CMDR/VCMDR is beyond me 

Last person to TRY reinstate as HCMD was timmimes, he waited until HOS opened up,  he was given CAPTAIN because we look into HCMD reserve requests ALOT more

[Jack S]

2 minutes ago, Rangiatea said:

I mean, this was never a thing in research, security or utility and you never heard them complain. the only difference between you and them is that you were given those reserves once upon a time. 

Also if we are being honest nearly noone comes back from reserves into a HCMD slot even IF you are given a reserve rank, if memory serves the last person (and the only one i remember) was th3. To even be considered to get those reserves back (if you were given them) you have to be already active within the server and part of that branch so that you understand how the branch now works, you are still given the 3rd highest rank in the branch if you were commander 4 highest if your were vice or deputy. The ONLY difference is that you will be doing rosters SOPs and having one of the final says in how branch decisions go, why you arent content with getting COL no questions asked but want to be denied CMDR/VCMDR is beyond me 

Changing my stance, from how Rang put it. It makes a lot more sense here.

[Gh0pit]

To offer my COL reserves opinion, it sucks that I can't come back into a HCMD position right away but its only one rank away at least. It wouldn't be too hard to earn HCMD again with a good reputation and activity.

(It is still a smack to the face for everyone who resigned back then and Rang's colorful opinion really cements my feelings on the treatment of said reserves i.e. the lack thereof)

However, I'm just glad I have them at least. It's better than starting over.

I know this comes from a good place Mike but it ain't worth it imo. 

-support

[Rektify]

1 hour ago, Rangiatea said:

I mean, this was never a thing in research, security or utility and you never heard them complain. the only difference between you and them is that you were given those reserves once upon a time. 

Also if we are being honest nearly noone comes back from reserves into a HCMD slot even IF you are given a reserve rank, if memory serves the last person (and the only one i remember) was th3. To even be considered to get those reserves back (if you were given them) you have to be already active within the server and part of that branch so that you understand how the branch now works, you are still given the 3rd highest rank in the branch if you were commander 4 highest if your were vice or deputy. The ONLY difference is that you will be doing rosters SOPs and having one of the final says in how branch decisions go, why you arent content with getting COL no questions asked but want to be denied CMDR/VCMDR is beyond me 

Last person to TRY reinstate as HCMD was timmimes, he waited until HOS opened up,  he was given CAPTAIN because we look into HCMD reserve requests ALOT more

-Support.

 

[[GL] Zeus]

I would love for this to be implemented but I see what rang meant. 

[Sprink]

15 hours ago, frog milk said:

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

 

[Sixx]

8 hours ago, Rangiatea said:

I mean, this was never a thing in research, security or utility and you never heard them complain. the only difference between you and them is that you were given those reserves once upon a time. 

Also if we are being honest nearly noone comes back from reserves into a HCMD slot even IF you are given a reserve rank, if memory serves the last person (and the only one i remember) was th3. To even be considered to get those reserves back (if you were given them) you have to be already active within the server and part of that branch so that you understand how the branch now works, you are still given the 3rd highest rank in the branch if you were commander 4 highest if your were vice or deputy. The ONLY difference is that you will be doing rosters SOPs and having one of the final says in how branch decisions go, why you arent content with getting COL no questions asked but want to be denied CMDR/VCMDR is beyond me 

Last person to TRY reinstate as HCMD was timmimes, he waited until HOS opened up,  he was given CAPTAIN because we look into HCMD reserve requests ALOT more

Rang said it the best, -Support

[Rookieblue]

Reserves are decided on a case by case basis. 

[Kodaㅤ]

22 hours ago, frog milk said:

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

 

[Squash]

4 hours ago, Rookieblue said:

Reserves are decided on a case by case basis. 

 Still as a head or commander you get the 4th highest rank, or 3rd if you exclude the director. Thats enough time to work your way back up to that high command position. Plus put it that you would be more trusted for a high command position if you did come back, giving you a higher chance of getting promoted back into it. Plus Rang saying only 1 person tried to come back which was th3 into High Command, I say leave it as the way it is.

My perspective on this is that a person resigns as the head right, they are gone for a couple of months then return. If given a high command slot, they would not be educated on any new changes or possibly not know much about the branch they came back in since they were gone for a while and need to jog their memory. 

Finally, what if a person has been at that one rank thats right below high command for a while right, lets use utilities Foreman position. They have been working really hard, there is one spot left for a Assistant Head, then the Head of a branch comes off of resignation and snatches that slot, that could be a complete turn off for the Foreman and make there efforts feel like a waste. The way it is now allows newer people to come into that High Command slot and test there current skills to operate a branch. Since current head reserves are the 3rd highest rank within the branch.

Now, while I do respect every head of a branch since they operate it along side others whomst assist them, new people should be selected and be given a chance.

Thats all I have to say, personnaly -Support 

14 hours ago, Rangiatea said:

I mean, this was never a thing in research, security or utility and you never heard them complain. the only difference between you and them is that you were given those reserves once upon a time. 

Also if we are being honest nearly noone comes back from reserves into a HCMD slot even IF you are given a reserve rank, if memory serves the last person (and the only one i remember) was th3. To even be considered to get those reserves back (if you were given them) you have to be already active within the server and part of that branch so that you understand how the branch now works, you are still given the 3rd highest rank in the branch if you were commander 4 highest if your were vice or deputy. The ONLY difference is that you will be doing rosters SOPs and having one of the final says in how branch decisions go, why you arent content with getting COL no questions asked but want to be denied CMDR/VCMDR is beyond me 

Last person to TRY reinstate as HCMD was timmimes, he waited until HOS opened up,  he was given CAPTAIN because we look into HCMD reserve requests ALOT more

 

Edited November 29, 2020 by Squash

[pixalgamer99]

-support they are 1 under high command just let them keep that also like rang said it was just your branch’s because you guys had COL in HCMD 

research may have had AHOR but utility never had it and they never complained they were fine with jt

[Surge]

On 11/28/2020 at 1:19 PM, Rangiatea said:

I mean, this was never a thing in research, security or utility and you never heard them complain. the only difference between you and them is that you were given those reserves once upon a time. 

Also if we are being honest nearly noone comes back from reserves into a HCMD slot even IF you are given a reserve rank, if memory serves the last person (and the only one i remember) was th3. To even be considered to get those reserves back (if you were given them) you have to be already active within the server and part of that branch so that you understand how the branch now works, you are still given the 3rd highest rank in the branch if you were commander 4 highest if your were vice or deputy. The ONLY difference is that you will be doing rosters SOPs and having one of the final says in how branch decisions go, why you arent content with getting COL no questions asked but want to be denied CMDR/VCMDR is beyond me 

Last person to TRY reinstate as HCMD was timmimes, he waited until HOS opened up,  he was given CAPTAIN because we look into HCMD reserve requests ALOT more

How rang placed it an explain it 

-support  

[Echo Romeo]

On 11/28/2020 at 4:43 AM, frog milk said:

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

 

[Mind Stone]

-Support

Like some others have said, its not too difficult to get back into HCMD from SCMD. You still are a high ranking member.

[Dr. Succ]

On 11/28/2020 at 5:43 AM, frog milk said:

+Support

Working that hard for the branch and that rank and not getting high command reserves is a bit silly

 

[enuz 💣]

On 11/28/2020 at 4:15 PM, Rektify said:

-Support.