Research May Branch Update - Accepted

[Weiss]

Several changes have been made to the research branches already existing jobs. These are as followed.
For ease of reading for general members. A document has been provided - Research May Update Overview




Job Update

Name of Job: Hazardous Materials Researcher

Job Model (Model Paths): Same

Job Description: Same

Job Weapons (Ex. tfa_csgo_mac10):
+Add -  tfa_csgo_mac10
+Add - #GMOD_Camera

Job Salary: Same

Job HP: Same

Job Armor: 100
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Job Update

Name of Job: Research Recruiting Agent

Job Model (Model Paths): Same

Job Description: Same

Job Weapons (Ex. tfa_csgo_mac10):
-Remove - tfa_csgo_p2000
+Add - tfa_ragingbull

Job Salary: 175

Job HP: Same

Job Armor: Same
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Job Update

Name of Job: Research Command

Job Model (Model Paths): Same

Job Description: Same

Job Weapons (Ex. tfa_csgo_mac10):
+Add - tfa_uzi

Job Salary: Same

Job HP: Same

Job Armor: Same

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Job Update

Name of Job: Foundation Doctor

Job Model (Model Paths): Same

Job Description: Same

Job Weapons (Ex. tfa_csgo_mac10):
+Add - tfa_vector

Job Salary: Same

Job HP: Same

Job Armor: Same
 

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Job Update

Name of Job: Research High Command

Job Model (Model Paths): Same

Job Description: Same

Job Weapons (Ex. tfa_csgo_mac10):
+Add - tfa_csgo_sawedoff

Job Salary: Same

Job HP: Same

Job Armor: Same

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by Weiss

[Your Local Soviet]

+Support

Much needed update for the Research branch.

[Retired DoTF Daedran]

+Support

I support the update in all fashions!

[Disgraced Merchant]

+Support

This needs to happen, if it doesn't happen then I will cry

[Rhodes.]

+support

Please do this, we need our protection from stray CI bullets and Class-D

[Phillers]

Alright, i have a few issue's with this update.

3 hours ago, Weiss said:

+Add -  tfa_csgo_mac10

The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont  see why a research class should spawn in with it.
 

3 hours ago, Weiss said:

-Remove - tfa_csgo_p2000
+Add - tfa_ragingbull

I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i  dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000.
 

3 hours ago, Weiss said:

+Add - tfa_vector

Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class.
Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull.


My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. 

And, to make one point,  i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference  between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. 

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by Falxen

[trevdec29]

+support 

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by trevdec29

[Hope]

+support

I am looking forward to this new update !

[BadAim]

1 hour ago, Falxen said:

Alright, i have a few issue's with this update.

The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont  see why a research class should spawn in with it.
 

I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i  dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000.
 

Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class.


My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. And you're giving your research staff weapons here which even most ET cant use because they are not fair to fight against.

And, to make one point,  i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference  between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. 

 

+/-

Im all for giving researchers better odds at defending themselves but I feel like lower powered weaponry could be used.

[[GL] Inaccurate]

14 minutes ago, BadAim said:

+/-

Im all for giving researchers better odds at defending themselves but I feel like lower powered weaponry could be used.

 

[Doggo0]

20 minutes ago, BadAim said:

+/-

Im all for giving researchers better odds at defending themselves but I feel like lower powered weaponry could be used.

 

[Kumandant]

+SUPPORT

This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor.

[Breen]

4 hours ago, Kumandant said:

+SUPPORT

This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor.

 

[Gunther]

4 hours ago, Kumandant said:

+SUPPORT

This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor.

 

[The Light]

4 hours ago, Kumandant said:

+SUPPORT

This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor.

 

[R̦̺̐ͫő̼̺͊c̘k̄]

You want a mac 10?

THE MOST OP GUN IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW.

ON RESEARCH?!

AND JUST BECAUSE MATRICES SAID IT WAS GOOD DOESNT MEAN YOU SHOULD HAVE IT.

We had the switching of utility and research bunks supported by an 05 but that got denied.

Big - support,    your research not MTF

[Jim Mcdango]

+ Support

[Dr. Lee]

9 hours ago, Kumandant said:

+SUPPORT

This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor.

 

[Rabbit]

17 hours ago, Weiss said:

+Add - tfa_csgo_sawedoff

But how will i gun down defenseless researches

[Ritz]

18 hours ago, Falxen said:

Alright, i have a few issue's with this update.

The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont  see why a research class should spawn in with it.
 

I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i  dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000.
 

Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class.
Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull.


My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. 

And, to make one point,  i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference  between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. 

 

 

[Bionicle]

21 hours ago, Falxen said:

Alright, i have a few issue's with this update.

The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont  see why a research class should spawn in with it.
 

I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i  dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000.
 

Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class.
Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull.


My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. 

And, to make one point,  i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference  between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. 

 

 

[Comrade Boekhom]

21 hours ago, Falxen said:

Alright, i have a few issue's with this update.

The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont  see why a research class should spawn in with it.
 

I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i  dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000.
 

Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class.
Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull.


My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. 

And, to make one point,  i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference  between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. 

 

 

[Dang]

22 hours ago, Falxen said:

Alright, i have a few issue's with this update.

The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont  see why a research class should spawn in with it.
 

I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i  dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000.
 

Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class.
Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull.


My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. 

And, to make one point,  i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference  between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. 

 

 

[[GL] Zeus]

23 hours ago, Kumandant said:

+SUPPORT

This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor.

 

[Orange 🍊]

On 4/29/2020 at 7:40 AM, Falxen said:

Alright, i have a few issue's with this update.

The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont  see why a research class should spawn in with it.
 

I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i  dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000.
 

Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class.
Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull.


My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. 

And, to make one point,  i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference  between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it.