Head Admin Weiss Posted April 29, 2020 Head Admin Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) Several changes have been made to the research branches already existing jobs. These are as followed. For ease of reading for general members. A document has been provided - Research May Update OverviewJob Update Name of Job: Hazardous Materials Researcher Job Model (Model Paths): Same Job Description: Same Job Weapons (Ex. tfa_csgo_mac10):+Add - tfa_csgo_mac10+Add - #GMOD_Camera Job Salary: Same Job HP: Same Job Armor: 100 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Job Update Name of Job: Research Recruiting Agent Job Model (Model Paths): Same Job Description: Same Job Weapons (Ex. tfa_csgo_mac10):-Remove - tfa_csgo_p2000+Add - tfa_ragingbull Job Salary: 175 Job HP: Same Job Armor: Same ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Job Update Name of Job: Research Command Job Model (Model Paths): Same Job Description: Same Job Weapons (Ex. tfa_csgo_mac10):+Add - tfa_uzi Job Salary: Same Job HP: Same Job Armor: Same -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Job Update Name of Job: Foundation Doctor Job Model (Model Paths): Same Job Description: Same Job Weapons (Ex. tfa_csgo_mac10):+Add - tfa_vector Job Salary: Same Job HP: Same Job Armor: Same -----------------------------------------------------------------------------Job Update Name of Job: Research High Command Job Model (Model Paths): Same Job Description: Same Job Weapons (Ex. tfa_csgo_mac10):+Add - tfa_csgo_sawedoff Job Salary: Same Job HP: Same Job Armor: Same Edited April 29, 2020 by Weiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Local Soviet Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 +Support Much needed update for the Research branch. SCP-RP - Former Assistant Head of Research | Former OMI-9 2LT | Former GenSec 2LT ⋅•⋅⋅•⋅⊰⋅•⋅⋅•⋅⋅•⋅⋅•⋅∙∘☽༓☾∘∙•⋅⋅⋅•⋅⋅⊰⋅•⋅⋅•⋅⋅•⋅⋅•⋅ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired DoTF Daedran Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 +Support I support the update in all fashions! [Former] Director of Containment | [Current] MTF A1 RRH Operative OH0 | [Former] MTF A1 Executive Commander EC98 | [Former] SCP-RP Moderator"He who acts on his own desire, breeds Pestilence" ~ Daedran 2019 | "Director Rangiatea is not allowed to do “!slay director” and claim Director Blackbeard had a heart attack." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disgraced Merchant Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 +Support This needs to happen, if it doesn't happen then I will cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhodes. Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 +support Please do this, we need our protection from stray CI bullets and Class-D ImpRP Retired Marshall SCPRP Retired Foundation Doctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) Alright, i have a few issue's with this update. 3 hours ago, Weiss said: +Add - tfa_csgo_mac10 The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont see why a research class should spawn in with it. 3 hours ago, Weiss said: -Remove - tfa_csgo_p2000+Add - tfa_ragingbull I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000. 3 hours ago, Weiss said: +Add - tfa_vector Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class. Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull. My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. And, to make one point, i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. Edited April 29, 2020 by Falxen "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdec29 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) +support Edited April 29, 2020 by trevdec29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 +support I am looking forward to this new update ! osu! achiever? I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAim Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Falxen said: Alright, i have a few issue's with this update. The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont see why a research class should spawn in with it. I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000. Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class. My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. And you're giving your research staff weapons here which even most ET cant use because they are not fair to fight against. And, to make one point, i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. +/- Im all for giving researchers better odds at defending themselves but I feel like lower powered weaponry could be used. 1 Retired Imperial RP Super Admin and Grand General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, BadAim said: +/- Im all for giving researchers better odds at defending themselves but I feel like lower powered weaponry could be used. "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggo0 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 20 minutes ago, BadAim said: +/- Im all for giving researchers better odds at defending themselves but I feel like lower powered weaponry could be used. SCPRP Director of Logistics, Event Team | Former Nu7 2LT, Former Senior Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumandant Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 +SUPPORT This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breen Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Kumandant said: +SUPPORT This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor. gog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Kumandant said: +SUPPORT This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Kumandant said: +SUPPORT This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor. Former "Foundation Doctor and a Medical Doctor are 2 god damn different things." -Light "Can you heal me."-Entire Foundation "Ok Sophia"-Arium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R̦̺̐ͫő̼̺͊c̘k̄ Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 You want a mac 10? THE MOST OP GUN IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW. ON RESEARCH?! AND JUST BECAUSE MATRICES SAID IT WAS GOOD DOESNT MEAN YOU SHOULD HAVE IT. We had the switching of utility and research bunks supported by an 05 but that got denied. Big - support, your research not MTF Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Mcdango Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 + Support RETIRED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Lee Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Kumandant said: +SUPPORT This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor. Femboy Hooters. No Cogs he's mine. Omi9 2LT Lee JL6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 17 hours ago, Weiss said: +Add - tfa_csgo_sawedoff But how will i gun down defenseless researches You don't have to be the best, you just got to be better than dip shit over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 18 hours ago, Falxen said: Alright, i have a few issue's with this update. The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont see why a research class should spawn in with it. I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000. Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class. Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull. My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. And, to make one point, i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionicle Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 21 hours ago, Falxen said: Alright, i have a few issue's with this update. The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont see why a research class should spawn in with it. I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000. Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class. Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull. My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. And, to make one point, i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 21 hours ago, Falxen said: Alright, i have a few issue's with this update. The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont see why a research class should spawn in with it. I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000. Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class. Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull. My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. And, to make one point, i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 22 hours ago, Falxen said: Alright, i have a few issue's with this update. The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont see why a research class should spawn in with it. I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000. Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class. Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull. My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. And, to make one point, i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 23 hours ago, Kumandant said: +SUPPORT This update has been ran by the DOURS, who has also informed us that it has been verified to be without issue by the O5 Council. Spawning with these cheap weapons is not as big of an issue as some people think it is. Self defense is a norm, not a privilege. The Vector is NOT OP. It is basically a slightly improved UZI, that has been given to the Foundation Doctor. Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 On 4/29/2020 at 7:40 AM, Falxen said: Alright, i have a few issue's with this update. The Mac-10 is as of current one of the most OP CQC weapons that can be easily gained, and i really dont see why a research class should spawn in with it. I dont see how this change even matters, the Research Recruiting Agent is a training job, and as of such OOC is it not? i dont see the point in giving it a different gun, but seeing as how the class wont use it outside of perhaps shooting rouge trainee's and showing off, but to that point the Ragingbull is actualy worse then the P2000. Again, the Vector is a rather powerfull SMG, and i just dont see the logic behind giving it to a non-combatant class. Also, this is not simply a "slightly improved UZI", its got nearly double the RPM, and on the server ATM if you are talking medium damage weapons (Which both the UZI and Vector are) RPM is a very major defining point in how good a gun is. There's a reason why the Vector is heavily restricted in ET, its very powerfull. My main issue with this update is that you are giving non-combatant classes rather powerfull weapons, while i really dont see a reasoning behind doing so since, well, they are non-combatants. With the recent introduction of CI rules which state that they will no longer attack non-combatants if they've already been called out, i only see the need for self-defence weapons going down, not up. And, to make one point, i know that the Mac-10 can be bought in the armory regardless, but there's a big difference between a class having to buy a weapon from the armory and a class spawning in with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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