recon Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 What are you suggesting? I am suggesting that D4 should not be allowed to go on the catwalk in D-block without perms from Zone Manager+. How would this change better the server? - For those who don't know, according to HOS Sixx, Mind, and Coltable: all SF are allowed onto the D block catwalk without needing perms. For as long as I can remember, E11 have not been allowed to enter D block unless they are given perms by a Zone Manager+. This is because E11's main objective while onsite should be to deal with threats outside D block such as: Keter breaches and D class in HCZ. This is also a rule to balance the game and give D class a fair fight. Allowing D4 onto the D block catwalk without needing perms from anyone just negates the already established rule of E11 can't be in D block unless given Zone Manger+ perms. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - N/A Who would this change mostly benefit? - D-class 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) +Support I don't think E11 should be allowed up there at all without Zone Manager+ perms (Since E11 HCMD can go up there freely), since its considered being in D-Block still. Also D4 Is just OP Compared to D-Class, kinda unfair for D-Class. Edited November 7, 2021 by Sixx 1 [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Fox Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sixx said: +Support I don't think E11 should be allowed up there at all without Zone Manager+ perms (Since E11 HCMD can go up there freely), since its considered being in D-Block still. Also D4 Is just OP Compared to D-Class, kinda unfair for D-Class. The best D class player to ever exist UwU >:3 Security best branch Owns: D-3621 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 -Support I'm gonna be real. D4 aren't OP. They're 200 | 200 with an ACOG. The walkways are also ridiculously exposed so just a couple people shooting up there with contenders should be good enough to kill a D4. Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Grayson Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 56 minutes ago, Sixx said: +Support I don't think E11 should be allowed up there at all without Zone Manager+ perms (Since E11 HCMD can go up there freely), since its considered being in D-Block still. Also D4 Is just OP Compared to D-Class, kinda unfair for D-Class. EX MAJ In MIL EX A2 In E4 Current VCMDR Of Sarkic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a frog Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 41 minutes ago, Nydekore said: -Support I'm gonna be real. D4 aren't OP. They're 200 | 200 with an ACOG. The walkways are also ridiculously exposed so just a couple people shooting up there with contenders should be good enough to kill a D4. -support D4 in my opinion are no different than hsu which has the same hp and armor as us and would be allowed in (keep in mind this would fuck over the whole argument of letting "op" sf's in d block) if this went into effect even though they also have high command that can just go in anyway, if you made this rule for 1 sf i would expect the other sf to follow this as well since in general the rule of e11 only entering d block was made by a man who didnt talk to high command about it and went to smt himself and that action has fucked e11 over since then, and for me personally I haven't seen any issue in letting d4 into d block by the pathway. The only way I would even find this appealing is if d4 could only enter as a high command escort and is allowed in when the e11 high command go in E11 1LT []FORMER CI MAJOR[]Former MTF OMICRON-9 CAPTAIN[]Former Janitorial Low Command[]Former E11 HCMD[Former overseer of D4,Former experimental, Former E4]"The fuck is a ethics committee?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 +Support No offense but why in the living fuck would d4 ever need to go on the cat walk on their own accord? Riots? That's why you stand outside and let gensec get a foothold or if it's that bad just ask a zone manager or nu7 to help. Need d class? Ask the gensec E11 should always be targeting scps and Ci and I already see constant b lines to d block ad it is. SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItzGray Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Nydekore said: -Support I'm gonna be real. D4 aren't OP. They're 200 | 200 with an ACOG. The walkways are also ridiculously exposed so just a couple people shooting up there with contenders should be good enough to kill a D4. 1 hour ago, frog said: -support D4 in my opinion are no different than hsu which has the same hp and armor as us and would be allowed in (keep in mind this would fuck over the whole argument of letting "op" sf's in d block) if this went into effect even though they also have high command that can just go in anyway, if you made this rule for 1 sf i would expect the other sf to follow this as well since in general the rule of e11 only entering d block was made by a man who didnt talk to high command about it and went to smt himself and that action has fucked e11 over since then, and for me personally I haven't seen any issue in letting d4 into d block by the pathway. The only way I would even find this appealing is if d4 could only enter as a high command escort and is allowed in when the e11 high command go in -support HSU and D4 aren't that different stats or weapons wise. Current: Former: | RRH Sierra 47 | | E11 LCPL | | MJ | | AR | | Gensec SM | | CI SFC | | CI IA | | M | | Nu7 DHFE Lieutenant Colonel | | HTF A4 Z Viper A4 | | AH1Z Viper | SCP-RP: | Former staff: 6/18/21 -> 11/18/21| | Staff 2x 2/26/22 -> 10/28/22 | | Joined: Apr, 2021~ | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanGuy Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, Some Weeb said: E11 should always be targeting scps and Ci and I already see constant b lines to d block ad it is. +Support Edited November 8, 2021 by MexicanGuy Former CI CPT| Guts | Mexican “I will protect those who cannot protect themselves. ” —Second Ideal of the Windrunners— Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Average Pipebomb enjoyer Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, frog said: -support D4 in my opinion are no different than hsu which has the same hp and armor as us and would be allowed in (keep in mind this would fuck over the whole argument of letting "op" sf's in d block) if this went into effect even though they also have high command that can just go in anyway, if you made this rule for 1 sf i would expect the other sf to follow this as well since in general the rule of e11 only entering d block was made by a man who didnt talk to high command about it and went to smt himself and that action has fucked e11 over since then, and for me personally I haven't seen any issue in letting d4 into d block by the pathway. Also its the exact same bridge with a door and different look Edited November 7, 2021 by russianweeb69 E11 2LT || Ex CI 2LT || Average Metal gear rising enjoyer || Ex Nu7 2LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Boi Sawrunner Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 +support if this means they are up on all the balconies overlooking all of D-Block, like the ones everywhere Otherwise, I don't really give a shit, but E11 has to have specific perms for this sorta thing, walking into D-Block as E11 at all requires high perms, so why should it change just because they now have the high ground? Daddy D Boi |Previously CI SGM XB1 and RAM|Formerly Agent Starboi| CCs: Frank West | Doctor Samuel Hayden | Solid Snake | CI Recon Force | Drip Hank Hill | The O7 Bois (Owner of Sunsetters) The Femboi With The Fubar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grеg Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Sixx said: +Support I don't think E11 should be allowed up there at all without Zone Manager+ perms (Since E11 HCMD can go up there freely), since its considered being in D-Block still. Also D4 Is just OP Compared to D-Class, kinda unfair for D-Class. Ranks: Security SM Greg | RRH Guardian Whiskey 11 Security Logo Designer | Premiere Club | #FreeMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 8 hours ago, frog said: -support D4 in my opinion are no different than hsu which has the same hp and armor as us and would be allowed in (keep in mind this would fuck over the whole argument of letting "op" sf's in d block) if this went into effect even though they also have high command that can just go in anyway, if you made this rule for 1 sf i would expect the other sf to follow this as well since in general the rule of e11 only entering d block was made by a man who didnt talk to high command about it and went to smt himself and that action has fucked e11 over since then, and for me personally I haven't seen any issue in letting d4 into d block by the pathway. The only way I would even find this appealing is if d4 could only enter as a high command escort and is allowed in when the e11 high command go in half of this i have no idea what hes talking about However if D4 have the same health as HSU why are d4 being banned but not HSU, is it because they look badass (its true) The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlantBruh Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 10 hours ago, Sixx said: +Support I don't think E11 should be allowed up there at all without Zone Manager+ perms (Since E11 HCMD can go up there freely), since its considered being in D-Block still. Also D4 Is just OP Compared to D-Class, kinda unfair for D-Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) Note: I do believe that D4 should be allowed on the catwalk, however, I am saying that they should only be allowed up there with perms from a zone manager+ because D4 is E11. I hope this clears up some confusion. Edit: Also, just because HSU & D4 have similar stats does not mean they are not two completely different branches with different objectives while onsite. Edited November 7, 2021 by recon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piller Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 -Support Very similar stats to HSU and frankly, needing zone manager perms seems like overkill, DoTF and DoRS do exist. SCP-RP Head of Staff | Ethics Committee Chairman Former Nu-7 VCMDR l Former GenSec CPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Dice Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Pillercat said: -Support Very similar stats to HSU and frankly, needing zone manager perms seems like overkill, DoTF and DoRS do exist. Demonically Inspired ..Nu7 CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPL Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 +Support Their stats don't really matter rn, The Balconies which are overseeing Upper D-block are considered Still D-Block, D4 is a part of E-11. And E-11 can't enter d-block unless given perms by like Site Admin I think. 1 1 SCP-RP | Maintenance Expert | HLPR Bot bT5 | Senior Researcher | Senior Event Team Member Custom Classes | Umbrella Corporation Operative "Pathos" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Stone Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 -Support D4 aren’t tanks like they use to be. They now have the same equipment and HP as HSU, who are already allowed in. Retired LCZ Manager : Pingas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazuzaM Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 12 hours ago, recon said: What are you suggesting? I am suggesting that D4 should not be allowed to go on the catwalk in D-block without perms from Zone Manager+. How would this change better the server? - For those who don't know, according to HOS Sixx, Mind, and Coltable: all SF are allowed onto the D block catwalk without needing perms. For as long as I can remember, E11 have not been allowed to enter D block unless they are given perms by a Zone Manager+. This is because E11's main objective while onsite should be to deal with threats outside D block such as: Keter breaches and D class in HCZ. This is also a rule to balance the game and give D class a fair fight. Allowing D4 onto the D block catwalk without needing perms from anyone just negates the already established rule of E11 can't be in D block unless given Zone Manger+ perms. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - N/A Who would this change mostly benefit? - D-class +Support Still dont get why would a SF focus on Dblock lol CURRENT: CI SMFORMER: | CI R&D IIN (SIN?) | CI EOI Operative | MTF E-11 1LT | RRH Analyst November 24 | Maintenance OSCUSTOM CLASSES: | Obama | The Mets | MTF E-11 'Last Call' | MTF E-11 Spetsgruppa Directorate 'V' | Umbrella Corporation Operative | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 40 minutes ago, Mind Stone said: -Support D4 aren’t tanks like they use to be. They now have the same equipment and HP as HSU, who are already allowed in. Deputy Head of Security | Executive Event Team | Admin | Forum Diplomat | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionThunder Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, PandaInShitpostLand said: half of this i have no idea what hes talking about However if D4 have the same health as HSU why are d4 being banned but not HSU, is it because they look badass (its true) Mark 1 have slightly less ap and slightly worse weaponry Edited November 7, 2021 by FusionThunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmander Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 13 hours ago, Sixx said: +Support I don't think E11 should be allowed up there at all without Zone Manager+ perms (Since E11 HCMD can go up there freely), since its considered being in D-Block still. Also D4 Is just OP Compared to D-Class, kinda unfair for D-Class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarledBison Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 +Support No E11 are allowed in without Zone Manager+ permission. Why would D4 break that rule and a be allowed in just because the areas a bit high in D-Block. Stats also mean nothing when the highest class-d can get is 100 100 while you guys have HSU who are able to go in. I see no point for D4 to be allowed in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The CI Zero Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, ShadowPL said: +Support Their stats don't really matter rn, The Balconies which are overseeing Upper D-block are considered Still D-Block, D4 is a part of E-11. And E-11 can't enter d-block unless given perms by like Site Admin I think. +Support "𝘕𝘰 𝘐 𝘢𝘪𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯' '𝘊𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘪𝘵'𝘴 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘸𝘦'𝘷𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘵 𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘣𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯' 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘪𝘧 𝘸𝘦 𝘢𝘪𝘯'𝘵 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯'?" -Retired CI MAJ Zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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