J0LT Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) Your in game name: J0LT/Pertinax Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:229658671 The player's in game name: Danny/ D4 Shogun (differing callsigns) The player's steam ID (required): STEAM_0:1:118322929 Date and Time This Incident Occurred: 10/30/21. 10/18/21, 10/06/21, What did the player do: Prob abuse (prop climbing/building forts) Evidence (required): (pics at the bottom) What do you believe should happen to the player: Warn and/or branch punishment Any extra information: has been told (as far as i know) by Kieran not to do that, and has even done it right after i told him not to prop climb in TS Yes i am aware D4 are allowed to place props, but the MOTD does state the following: "Spawning props and using them to climb into areas normally inaccessible is prohibited. The only branch exempt from this rule is Maintenance, and only for RP purposes." "Never make doors, walls, checkpoints, use props to attempt to glitch through areas, etc. An example of appropriate use of props would be adding props to an SCP containment cell to simulate Class-D bones. " Garrys_Mod_2021-10-18_19-04-51.mp4 Edited October 31, 2021 by Benslaki_II Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx On: Alpha-8 | S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) + Support This is about prop abuse, not about how it would work irl (that shit is funny) Edited October 31, 2021 by Pills Former: 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐃𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐫 - 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐀𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Grayson Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, Pills said: +/- Support Until @Clistroresponds. Though it is quite obvious EX MAJ In MIL EX A2 In E4 Current VCMDR Of Sarkic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Clistro Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) I do apologize on that bit as for the ones that are on the floating as I assumed contact with walls would count as being structurally supported as IRL L brackets on walls do exist in real life and they are capable of supporting the weight of roughly 1,200lbs which covers weight load on a structure. As for the video I was originally told by DOTF that the structure there was okay and then I was told it wasn't why it was wrong just that I couldn't build it again and I haven't built that same CP since I assumed it was called out due to the peak point up top. Picture 4 was immediately taken down after it was mentioned. Pictures 2 and 3 however I don't see that as prop climb I see that as simply building a platform that is accessible via a simple ramp I've seen my DHCE build ramp defenses plenty of time and this was never called out so I assumed this was okay. as for picture one I was eventually told by django that people had a problem with ceiling defenses again with contact against the wall I assumed these types of defenses were okay and I was simply trying to think outside the box in terms of foundation defense. I apologize for this misinterpretation of building guidelines. Picture of an L bracket for a visual representation of what it is. Edited October 31, 2021 by Clistro 2 3 United States Reserve General / Retired 1944 US GOA Rho 36 CO Occult Operative/ MTF Epsilon Eleven Commander Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 -Support. To be clear, I think that this sort of behavior is in violation of the rules, namely the one that states : But here's the thing: That rule has been getting constantly violated by pretty much everyone that can construct anything using props. Asfar as I can see, there are no written down rules as to what is and isn't acceptable to build. The exact type of constructions I see in these screenshots I have seen countless times before, and they were not reported then. Now, people might say that Danny has crossed a line by building so much, but to those I ask : Where is that line drawn? I don't think it's fair to punish someone for a rule that is generally unclear and poorly enforced by staff. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piller Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 @Benslaki_IIYou put his discord ID in the SteamID area. Please remove that and put his SteamID. 1 SCP-RP Head of Staff | Ethics Committee Chairman Former Nu-7 VCMDR l Former GenSec CPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a frog Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 -support these type of builds are always used on the server and e11 d4 are allowed to build so as long as it doesn't make it where it make a area inexcusable to other people and they have a chance to go through this d4 will not be getting punished ingame/outgame by e11 command anyway E11 1LT []FORMER CI MAJOR[]Former MTF OMICRON-9 CAPTAIN[]Former Janitorial Low Command[]Former E11 HCMD[Former overseer of D4,Former experimental, Former E4]"The fuck is a ethics committee?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0LT Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 20 minutes ago, frog said: -support these type of builds are always used on the server and e11 d4 are allowed to build so as long as it doesn't make it where it make a area inexcusable to other people and they have a chance to go through this d4 will not be getting punished ingame/outgame by e11 command anyway MOTD>SOP yes im aware that they can build, so can a lot of classes. although the MOTD strictly states that only maintenance members can use props to climb Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx On: Alpha-8 | S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 - Support From what I can see in the pictures, Danny's head to mid torso is visible which means has not head glitching. All the builds seem great and non of them have floating structures. That first picture is a bit weird though. I don't know wtf is going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Average Pipebomb enjoyer Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, frog said: -support these type of builds are always used on the server and e11 d4 are allowed to build so as long as it doesn't make it where it make a area inexcusable to other people and they have a chance to go through this d4 will not be getting punished ingame/outgame by e11 command anyway E11 2LT || Ex CI 2LT || Average Metal gear rising enjoyer || Ex Nu7 2LT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandtoad Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, frog said: -support these type of builds are always used on the server and e11 d4 are allowed to build so as long as it doesn't make it where it make a area inexcusable to other people and they have a chance to go through this d4 will not be getting punished ingame/outgame by e11 command anyway The only issue with that is that staff/general players don’t have access to the d4 sop so we have no idea what the d4 rules are. THE BEST AMPHIBIAN Custom Classes | Cybernetic Protective Unit Owner | A Normal D-Class Owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0LT Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, islandtoad said: The only issue with that is that staff/general players don’t have access to the d4 sop so we have no idea what the d4 rules are. i have been told by Kieran (D4 lead) that this is against their rules, and he has talked to him multiple times. Im only reporting it because it doesnt seem to stop after he tells them not to Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx On: Alpha-8 | S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grеg Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 +Support Putting this right outside D-Block pisses off researchers, wardens, and maintenance because it gets super crowded in that intersection when there are stair forts and walls like these. Its hell for CI as well Ranks: Security SM Greg | RRH Guardian Whiskey 11 Security Logo Designer | Premiere Club | #FreeMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I mean I am going to side with Phil here. It's not just Danny who does it, it's pretty global infact. So yeah there is my 2 cents. -support [Rules should get clarified] SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 28 minutes ago, Grеg said: +Support Putting this right outside D-Block pisses off researchers, wardens, and maintenance because it gets super crowded in that intersection when there are stair forts and walls like these. Its hell for CI as well I get the other two but researchers shouldn’t be hanging out there. -Support as this would be a crackdown on one person for a rule that is commonly broken. We’d need to be steady in starting to enforce this kind of thing, not go from “not enforcing” to “warn everyone” 1 Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skela Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 - support for punishment request. i believe a verbal is fine as the rules are somewhat wonky, even then I believe this should’ve been handled by a staff member in game or by simply going to a high command member. also L brackets are goated asf Yuh imm@ Thash Dat B¡tch!!*^€{ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coltable Posted October 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2021 15 hours ago, Clistro said: Picture of an L bracket for a visual representation of what it is. bruh wtf is this shit, cant yall just place barricades on the ground... 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaming Goat Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 hours ago, recon said: - Support From what I can see in the pictures, Danny's head to mid torso is visible which means has not head glitching. All the builds seem great and non of them have floating structures. That first picture is a bit weird though. I don't know wtf is going on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyelander Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 17 hours ago, Pills said: + Support This is about prop abuse, not about how it would work irl (that shit is funny) |retired dhor/meritorious service award recipient||former CI 1lt/sm and E4 C2||Rho 36 Shaman| "For the day I die, imma touch the sky" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepis Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 -support These builds are used almost daily and no reports have been made and as far as i can tell the D4 isnt "glitching or reaching an area he isnt supposed to" he is just a few feet off the ground using supports and whatnot. Retired E-11Captain Beepis 3R7H "It takes many good deeds to build a good reputation, and only one bad one to lose it" -Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 18 hours ago, Skela said: - support for punishment request. i believe a verbal is fine as the rules are somewhat wonky, even then I believe this should’ve been handled by a staff member in game or by simply going to a high command member. also L brackets are goated asf [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 19 hours ago, Skela said: - support for punishment request. i believe a verbal is fine as the rules are somewhat wonky, even then I believe this should’ve been handled by a staff member in game or by simply going to a high command member. also L brackets are goated asf Both me and J0lt have talked to D4 heads/high command more than once about him doing this and with all the verbals he gets he keeps doing this. +Support. EX Head Of Staff SCP-RP | CI will forever be in my heart. 1/15/21 - 8/1/22 (CI CMDR Cosmic ITLY) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 23 hours ago, Grеg said: +Support Putting this right outside D-Block pisses off researchers, wardens, and maintenance because it gets super crowded in that intersection when there are stair forts and walls like these. Its hell for CI as well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack (utility one) Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 +/- support I mean I typically build pretty wacky barricades, only on maintenance so meh. I guess its against the rules but I also think it wasnt meant to breka the rules just a misinterpretation. But this could of been avoided if you called maintenance to build it!! There are gods in Alabama: Jack Daniel's, high school quarterbacks, trucks, big tits, and also Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Accepted Thank you for the report. Appropriate action against the player and or staff member will be taken to ensure that they receive the correct punishment. The building structures used within the Screenshots are not permitted to be used on the server because it can cause unfair combat situations. However because the MOTD is not completely clear with the building guidelines for these particular building structures the punishment is lowered to a verbal warning, SMT will be working towards finalizing and making more clear guidance rules for building in future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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