Propane Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 What you want to see? - Gensec CC NLR boosted to 3 minutes Why should we add it? - they are basically MTF CC's which spawn in LCZ with a 2 minute NLR What are the advantages of having this? - Balance Who is it mainly for? - Non-foundation Links to any content - N/A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionicle Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 +support, gensec doesnt need to rely on CCs to hold d block. this makes sense balance wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Bionicle said: +support, gensec doesnt need to rely on CCs to hold d block. this makes sense balance wise. Pretty sure they don't. There's only two CC's and you won't see more than 2 on at the same time. -/+Support due to not knowing if Gensec has been struggling or not. Edited June 7, 2020 by Gunther Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 +support this would definitely make things more fair/balanced overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) +Support I don't think what are essentially MTF CC's should get 2 minute NLR because they fight d-class as a priority Edited June 7, 2020 by Ritz Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 +Support Biggest brain move right now is to buy a gensec CC and treat it like an MTF CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakub Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) +support, Sick of people on gensec ccs having 2 min NLR and running around like they're mtf. edit: because security classes can die fast your saying that the strongest above average classes should have the same nlr as them? no. They can survive longer therefore they should be out of action longer when they die. Edited June 7, 2020 by Jakub Ex E11 COL, Ex A1 MAJ, Ex AHOTS, Ex Security 2LT, Ex Admin. Current CI 2LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 +Support, making a GenSec CC right now is effectively making an MTF job that spawns in LCZ and has a 2 min NLR, both of which are major buffs for no extra cost, and thats odd to me. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniLeopard Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) -Support Gensec CC's need to follow the SOP still so they shouldn't be like "MTF" so if you see one doing MTF stuff please make a report to HCMD or SMT Edit: Without gensec CC's d block can fall pretty easily. Edit 2: A couple of guns can easily kill a 200/200 CC that d class have. CZ can kill a 200/200 in one clip "The CZ clip size is 13 bullets" The Falcon can kill a non-cc within seconds The Dual Berettas can kill a non-cc within seconds The Deagle can kill a non-cc pretty quickly And don't forget a few d class CC's have SMG's and smokes Gensec numbers have been low for weeks "It is getting better" and we just lost a lot of members like all of HCMD and two CMD members so gensec isn't doing good right now. Once gensec is passed it's "dark time" I will +Support Edited June 7, 2020 by MiniLeopard 1 The United Kingdom, made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, is an island nation in north-western Europe. England – birthplace of Shakespeare and The Beatles – is home to the capital, London, a globally influential centre of finance and culture. England is also site of Neolithic Stonehenge, Bath’s Roman spa and centuries-old universities at Oxford and Cambridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 hours ago, October said: +support this would definitely make things more fair/balanced overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creamey Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, MiniLeopard said: -Support Gensec CC's need to follow the SOP still so they shouldn't be like "MTF" so if you see one doing MTF stuff please make a report to HCMD or SMT Edit: Without gensec CC's d block can fall pretty easily. Edit 2: A couple of guns can easily kill a 200/200 CC that d class have. CZ can kill a 200/200 in one clip "The CZ clip size is 13 bullets" The Falcon can kill a non-cc within seconds The Dual Berettas can kill a non-cc within seconds The Deagle can kill a non-cc pretty quickly And don't forget a few d class CC's have SMG's and smokes Gensec numbers have been low for weeks "It is getting better" and we just lost a lot of members like all of HCMD and two CMD members so gensec isn't doing good right now. Once gensec is passed it's "dark time" I will +Support [SCP-RP] Retired Head Of Security || Retired Field Work Manager || Retired OM3 || Retired Event Team Member [JvS no more] Former FIRST The Grand Inquisitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionicle Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, MiniLeopard said: A couple of guns can easily kill a 200/200 CC that d class have. CZ can kill a 200/200 in one clip "The CZ clip size is 13 bullets" The Falcon can kill a non-cc within seconds The Dual Berettas can kill a non-cc within seconds The Deagle can kill a non-cc pretty quickly And don't forget a few d class CC's have SMG's and smokes Did you test these using a d class standing still, or moving, because I don't think that these stats are accurate when tested in an actual d block riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Falxen said: +Support, making a GenSec CC right now is effectively making an MTF job that spawns in LCZ and has a 2 min NLR, both of which are major buffs for no extra cost, and thats odd to me. "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protoss Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 hours ago, MiniLeopard said: Once gensec is passed it's "dark time" I will +Support Saiba is doing a pretty good job with things. I am sure things will bounce back +Support, seems fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Ritz said: +Support I don't think what are essentially MTF CC's should get 2 minute NLR because they fight d-class as a priority SCP-RP Moderator | CI LTCOL Boozle LC32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) Changing my -/+ to a -Support. The reason all Gensec, including CCs, having a 2 minute NLR is because they constantly deal with enemies and constantly take damage, unlike MTF who most of the time are out of combat, until an SCP breaches, or CI raids. MTF may only deal with anywhere from 1-10 enemies at a one given time, depending on the enemy. Gensec deal with 1-? enemies at any given time, because D-Class are unpredictable, some may rush, some might wait, and some might hit with 20 men and women. Yea, the Gensec CC's are built like MTF but that's cause they're CC's, that's what P2W does for you, it gives you the possibility of having a stronger class, same as Reznov or whoever. Edited June 7, 2020 by Gunther Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 +Support For reason stated above and I feel like D-Class have been really getting nerfed so I think this is a good compromise. [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooM Guy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 +Support You don't need gensec CC's to kill a couple of D-Class, they should be able to hold D-Block by themselves. One time me and 3 other D-Class were stuck in the armory, and gensec needed to bring in 3 CC's just to kill us. The shouldn't rely on CC's to do all the work for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F1ghter Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 6/7/2020 at 5:22 AM, Falxen said: +Support, making a GenSec CC right now is effectively making an MTF job that spawns in LCZ and has a 2 min NLR, both of which are major buffs for no extra cost, and thats odd to me. Former SCP Moderator PoliceRP - Senior Patrol Officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrigand Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 +Support Why should gensec CC's with 200hp 200armor have the same nlr as regular gensec... Especially with all the gensec updates and the knife nerf. Italian Boss Vincent "Vinny" Vincenzo / Research Command / O-5 Council Research Staff youtube.com/watch?v=LZN8PnI39Ng Sixx's Pussy is NOT mediocre even if SMT says it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APE Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 -support Gensec, unlike non foundation. Is always fighting enemies, dclass are always rioting and they are always dealing with them. All because you got killed by a gensec cc who has a minute less nlr, doesn't give you a good reason to try and lower their nlr. There are 3 gensec ccs, and only one of them is active an has members. They have to deal with both dclass and ci, and when CI invade, dclass get out. Making the threat huge for them. There are literally such a miniscule about of active gensec that have a cc. Even then, jugg only has a bit less health and armor than them, and heavy only a tiny bit more than that. This is pointless and just nitpicking because a couple gensec ccs happened to be on and caused an issue for your squad. All three gensec ccs are command only, and now we dont have any of the command that used to own them online since they all resigned. Give gensec a break once and a while. 1 Ret. Security Colonel || Ret. Head Warden || D-Class High Council || Former MTF Alpha 1 'Red Right Hand' Juliette 69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God Emperor Drip Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, APE said: -support Gensec, unlike non foundation. Is always fighting enemies, dclass are always rioting and they are always dealing with them. All because you got killed by a gensec cc who has a minute less nlr, doesn't give you a good reason to try and lower their nlr. There are 3 gensec ccs, and only one of them is active an has members. They have to deal with both dclass and ci, and when CI invade, dclass get out. Making the threat huge for them. There are literally such a miniscule about of active gensec that have a cc. Even then, jugg only has a bit less health and armor than them, and heavy only a tiny bit more than that. This is pointless and just nitpicking because a couple gensec ccs happened to be on and caused an issue for your squad. All three gensec ccs are command only, and now we dont have any of the command that used to own them online since they all resigned. Give gensec a break once and a while. as a d-class main i can totally agree with this Emperor of D-Block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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