Yellowjacket Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Your in game name: Yellow Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:44523937 The player's in game name: doctor sniperz (at the time of the incident) The player's steam ID (required): STEAM_0:0:680762410 The original staff member's name: Ozzie Date and Time This Incident Occurred: 09/09/22 16:30 EST What did the player do: Break FearRP as SCP-049 when 3 weapons were pointed at them by turning me into an SCP-049-2 instance, as per General Rules, Rule 6. What was the disposition of the sit (no action/verbal warning/formal warning/etc): No action was taken as the staff member argued that in order to FearRP SCP 049 all of the SCP 049-2 instances have to be killed first. Why do you think the disposition was inappropriate?: No such rule or condition exists within the MOTD that would state that all of the SCP 049-2 instances have to be killed before SCP-049 can be FearRPd. Evidence (required): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/Acy09bWIEHyDV/d1337zS8twO5?invite=cr-MSx0Q1YsMzE0NjU4Njcs Any extra information: As you can see in the clip, 3 people with weapons were in the hallway where SCP-049 turned me into an SCP-049-2 instance. Fear, full of hate perforates me like a yellowjacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Dropping this image here. -support After watching the clip, i don't hear anyone screaming fearrp. Everything happened so fast and the third guy behind you was so far behind. Edited September 9, 2022 by [GL] Fizz-y Soda CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said: Dropping this image here. -support After watching the clip, i don't hear anyone screaming fearrp. Everything happened so fast and the third guy behind you was so far behind. -Support Ozzie made the right call here Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K I W I Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said: Dropping this image here. -Support Rules are pretty clear, he can't be fear Rp'ed with multiple 049-2 instances | EX CI General | | Ex Lead Admin | | The best Fruit to exist | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowjacket Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, K I W I said: -Support Rules are pretty clear, he can't be fear Rp'ed with multiple 049-2 instances It doesn't say that anywhere? Also it wasn't multiple instances just one, but that is irrelevant. Fear, full of hate perforates me like a yellowjacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K I W I Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yellowjacket said: It doesn't say that anywhere? Also it wasn't multiple instances just one, but that is irrelevant. It says that once all 049-2 instances are terminated, 049 can be terminated | EX CI General | | Ex Lead Admin | | The best Fruit to exist | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowjacket Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, K I W I said: It says that once all 049-2 instances are terminated, 049 can be terminated 049 isn't ever terminated, what are you talking about? Fear, full of hate perforates me like a yellowjacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 52 minutes ago, Yellowjacket said: 049 isn't ever terminated, what are you talking about? 049-2, not 049, -2 are his zombies Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseman Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 -Support there was a 049 instance he can't be fear RP no rules broken here. CURRENT RANKS SCPRP: NoneRetired E-11 COL and EX GENSEC MAJ CHAD WITH GOLDENPAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 -Support I agree with what Ozzie said!!1 Former: 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐃𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐫 - 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐀𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowjacket Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Pills said: -Support I agree with what Ozzie said!!1 28 minutes ago, Chineseman said: -Support there was a 049 instance he can't be fear RP no rules broken here. 2 hours ago, K I W I said: -Support Rules are pretty clear, he can't be fear Rp'ed with multiple 049-2 instances Are you implying that 049 cannot be FearRPd if there are 049-2 that are not terminated? Because that's not what the rules say. Fear, full of hate perforates me like a yellowjacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Yellowjacket said: Are you implying that 049 cannot be FearRPd if there are 049-2 that are not terminated? Because that's not what the rules say. Per the Self Breach rules for SCP 049 and SCP 049-2. "SCP-049's self breaching process can be stopped by MTF terminating all 049-2 instances and FearRPing SCP-049" This process also applies to recontaining the SCP. You are unable to FearRP combatants, you have 3 people, SCP-049-2 is not fearrp able, therefor you can not actively FearRP SCP-049 in this situation. The full set of rules for this situation, and FearRPing SCP-049 are a combination of his own personal SCP rules along with the rules for general FearRP. With this and all things listed above, I am going to heavily -Support, Ozzie definitely made the right call. Edited September 10, 2022 by Goat Further information | Head Administrator | Director of Intelligence | | Death Trooper Commander | Epsilon-11 Commander | Alpha-1 Commander | High General Goat | Shock Vice Commander | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowjacket Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Goat said: Per the Self Breach rules for SCP 049 and SCP 049-2. "SCP-049's self breaching process can be stopped by MTF terminating all 049-2 instances and FearRPing SCP-049" This process also applies to recontaining the SCP. You are unable to FearRP combatants, you have 3 people, SCP-049-2 is not fearrp able, therefor you can not actively FearRP SCP-049 in this situation. With this and all things listed above, I am going to heavily -Support, Ozzie definitely made the right call. Yes the SCP can be considered recontained when the 049-2 Instances are killed, that's now what we are talking about here, what I am saying is that 049 can be FearRPd even if instances of 049-2 exist, it just doesn't say otherwise anywhere in the MOTD. I'm not sure what you mean by "you are unable to fear RP combatants" yes you are but that's completely besides this entire report as no combatants were being FearRPd, SCP 049-2 isnt FearRPable and we were not trying to do so, however 049 had three people with weapons on him and therefore was under FearRP as previously stated. Edited September 10, 2022 by Yellowjacket Fear, full of hate perforates me like a yellowjacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Dice Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 3 hours ago, K I W I said: -Support Rules are pretty clear, he can't be fear Rp'ed with multiple 049-2 instances yea ozzie made the right call here mate Demonically Inspired ..Nu7 CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_ Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Hi, Chiming in since I handled this in game, it was a fairly open and shut case. The others have covered this pretty well, its definitely a rule mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piller Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 FORUMS DIPLOMAT MESSAGE: PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ARGUING AND KEEP ALL RESPONSES TO + OR - SUPPORT. FURTHER ARGUING WILL RESULT IN THIS THREAD BEING LOCKED AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS ON YOUR ACCOUNT. 1 1 1 SCP-RP Head of Staff | Ethics Committee Chairman Former Nu-7 VCMDR l Former GenSec CPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovelock Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 -Support Rules are stated clearly so Ozzie made the right call and to be fair if I was the answering staff I would have done things similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Stolas Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 - support 17 hours ago, Yellowjacket said: No such rule or condition exists within the MOTD that would state that all of the SCP 049-2 instances have to be killed before SCP-049 can be FearRPd. there indeed is a written rule on this, as stated by others SCPRP: AHOME | Nu-7 Quartermaster | E11 Staff Sergent | Senior Medical Specialist | Experienced Marksman | Junior Combat Engineer | Rapid Response Team | Ranger | SWRP: Pyke Soldier I | ST SFC | Apprentice IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giga Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 20 hours ago, K I W I said: -Support Rules are pretty clear, he can't be fear Rp'ed with multiple 049-2 instances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaeger. Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 21 hours ago, K I W I said: -Support Rules are pretty clear, he can't be fear Rp'ed with multiple 049-2 instances Former: Grand Inquisitor | Lead Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_ Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Denied 1 Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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