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On 8/19/2021 at 12:28 AM, Chief_ said:

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Something other than the fubar? Maybe the fireaxe, as many other foundation jobs use it.

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On 8/19/2021 at 5:34 PM, Yato Sensei said:

- Support for the armor

+ Support for all else


Armor packs are easy to craft in the workbench, if they co-ordinate well enough, they can all armor up.

 

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+support
overall good changes! definetly seems interesting although i think a dclass rp job might be cool but given this is just job changes it seems like it would work well! also the fubar bein brought back would be nice!

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On 8/19/2021 at 1:04 AM, Nydekore said:

-Support to adding armor to dclass, just that little bit of armor can help a lot and it seems unnecessary.

+Support to everything else 

 

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On 8/22/2021 at 12:23 AM, Jack S said:

Something other than the fubar? Maybe the fireaxe, as many other foundation jobs use it.

Hm Good point. 

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On 8/19/2021 at 1:04 AM, Nydekore said:

-Support to adding armor to dclass, just that little bit of armor can help a lot and it seems unnecessary.

+Support to everything else 

 

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On 8/19/2021 at 6:19 PM, DooM Guy said:

This is entirely true, killing gensec is getting harder especially when a CC is on. Gensec CC's have more health than a normal Nu7 or E11 so it becomes a chore to kill them. 200 200 is very challenging to kill and you can usually only kill them in groups.

 

 

Regardless if D-Class get a buff, gensec will get buffed either way.

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It's been a real struggle for D-Class for a while and I'm glad someone stepped up and made a suggestion for them to get buffed. D-Class are way underpowered and it takes sheer skill just to even get kills cause of how strong gensec are. "Just get good 😂" OK mister 200 200, how about you play with only a melee weapon cause all of the guns you get are hot garbage (excluding a few ofc)
Plus hitreg is almost RNG based at this point so fighting becomes even more diffcult

And istg if one more mf says "D-Class are meant to be weak" I will bend your toe nail upwards 


 

 

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+support

dclass branch update 😳

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On 8/19/2021 at 7:04 PM, Yato Sensei said:

- Support for the armor

+ Support for all else


Armor packs are easy to craft in the workbench, if they co-ordinate well enough, they can all armor up.

 

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On 8/19/2021 at 6:19 PM, DooM Guy said:

This is entirely true, killing gensec is getting harder especially when a CC is on. Gensec CC's have more health than a normal Nu7 or E11 so it becomes a chore to kill them. 200 200 is very challenging to kill and you can usually only kill them in groups.

 

 

Regardless if D-Class get a buff, gensec will get buffed either way.

+SOUP

It's been a real struggle for D-Class for a while and I'm glad someone stepped up and made a suggestion for them to get buffed. D-Class are way underpowered and it takes sheer skill just to even get kills cause of how strong gensec are. "Just get good 😂" OK mister 200 200, how about you play with only a melee weapon cause all of the guns you get are hot garbage (excluding a few ofc)
Plus hitreg is almost RNG based at this point so fighting becomes even more diffcult

And istg if one more mf says "D-Class are meant to be weak" I will bend your toe nail upwards 


 

Branches/Classes should not be balanced around CCs. CCs are supposed to be powerful because people pay tons of cash for them. However, if you balance classes around CCs then everyone who does not have a CC won't want to buy one since CCs wouldn't be that powerful.

Also, most gensec that have CCs are mostly made up of command, making the large majority of gensec normal classes.

Third, you say that D class are underpowered, however this is only because gensec have to fall back on MTF more often now. The whole point of security is to keep D block calm and if they are relying on MTF's help all the time then that is a big issue. If GENSEC can't complete there one job I think it's more of a balancing issue then a skill issue. Yes, gensec have a lot of bad players, however you can't blame GENSEC for that as they are the first branch most people join. Also, GENSEC have really weak classes, the first 3 enlisted class all have SMGs that are not the best its not till SGT where you really get a decent class.

Finally, I'm not saying that D class should be weak or that they need a nerf, I'm just saying that gensec should be strong enough to where they can at least whole D block by themselves without the need for MTF every time there is a riot. Because at that point why not just merge Nu7 and gensec and have MTF hold D block all the time? Also, If you join gensec, and you just cautiously keep dying and having to wait, wouldn't you wan't to get off the job? If gensec are just getting squashed by D class 24/7, there activity will die, and if gensec activity is bad, research will go away as well since D class would be out all the time. 

I hope you understand what I am saying and I hope that this didn't come off as a rant/argument.

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18 hours ago, recon said:

However, if you balance classes around CCs then everyone who does not have a CC won't want to buy one since CCs wouldn't be that powerful.

This just makes it seem like p2w, you're basically saying that I should spend money on the server to become more powerful???? 
Donating should benefit you and give you a few perks, not completely buff you out. I.e, having the base ball bat versus the golf club. Donating more money will get you a more powerful weapon. This shouldn't be the case.

 

Also I read the rest but this is the only part I could really get this part cause I cant read for shit lol

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On 8/27/2021 at 4:10 PM, DooM Guy said:

This just makes it seem like p2w, you're basically saying that I should spend money on the server to become more powerful???? 
Donating should benefit you and give you a few perks, not completely buff you out. I.e, having the base ball bat versus the golf club. Donating more money will get you a more powerful weapon. This shouldn't be the case.

 

Also I read the rest but this is the only part I could really get this part cause I cant read for shit lol

The point of not balancing around CCs is that there are so few people with them that they are more an outlier than the status quo, therefore don’t balance the enemy around them otherwise the enemy will destroy the average job.

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Alirght you all lets not argue over this. 

This suggestion was made ot SUGGEST things. Not set things in stone. SMT have the final say on changing/adding these things into the server. 

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+support as this should lower the likely hood of new people getting bored and stop people breaking the TOS 


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On 8/19/2021 at 5:19 PM, DooM Guy said:

This is entirely true, killing gensec is getting harder especially when a CC is on. Gensec CC's have more health than a normal Nu7 or E11 so it becomes a chore to kill them. 200 200 is very challenging to kill and you can usually only kill them in groups.

 

 

Regardless if D-Class get a buff, gensec will get buffed either way.

+SOUP

It's been a real struggle for D-Class for a while and I'm glad someone stepped up and made a suggestion for them to get buffed. D-Class are way underpowered and it takes sheer skill just to even get kills cause of how strong gensec are. "Just get good 😂" OK mister 200 200, how about you play with only a melee weapon cause all of the guns you get are hot garbage (excluding a few ofc)
Plus hitreg is almost RNG based at this point so fighting becomes even more diffcult

And istg if one more mf says "D-Class are meant to be weak" I will bend your toe nail upwards 


 

 

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On 8/19/2021 at 11:34 PM, Yato Sensei said:

- Support for the armor

+ Support for all else


Armor packs are easy to craft in the workbench, if they co-ordinate well enough, they can all armor up.

I agree wanna see more armor kits crafted

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On 8/19/2021 at 12:51 AM, LucarioKing said:

+SUPPORT
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On 8/19/2021 at 1:04 AM, Nydekore said:

-Support to adding armor to dclass, just that little bit of armor can help a lot and it seems unnecessary.

+Support to everything else 

 

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