Zombinator Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Your in game name: Jeb Threep Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:19270437 The player's in game name: Cloaker The player's steam ID (required): STEAM_0:1:461863232 Date and Time This Incident Occurred: Various times on 7/28 and 7/29. Latest incident was 6PM on 7/29 What did the player do: Cloaker was formally warned yesterday by Stonksman for toxicity towards me in game, he killed me and said "How's that negative reputation on the forums?" Stonksman in the sit informed me about reputation, a factor I had been unaware of. Stonksman noted that I had accrued -20 reputation in about a day's time. I hadn't noticed and didn't see how it factored in. One minute after the warning, Cloaker went directly to the forums and left another thumbs down on one of my comments. I reported this to Stonksman and he pulled him into the admin only channel to talk to him over it. A thread opened up on the 28th in the suggestions forum in which I weighed in. I received a toxic response and then a Forum Diplomat stepped in to say "To avoid arguments please leave all posts to +/- Support. Any further arguments or useless posts will be hidden by our diplomat team!" After this post Cloaker came into the thread and quoted the toxic post and commented that they " said it perfectly". I feel that given the string of toxic and abusive behavior he has been exhibiting, this is a clear cut case of toxicity after a Forum Diplomat had already stated to leave all future posts to +/- support. Evidence (required): What do you believe should happen to the player: After this many issues, I believe he should be removed from staff. Any extra information: Stonksman has handled this entire issue, I believe he will be key to assisting with the facts. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) +/- Support In order to avoid bias from myself, I will not be responding but I will bring up some points. 1. I feel as if both players may be in the wrong here. a. Cloaker should have not said anything about the "bias" from you and stayed on topic. (CI and D-Class not allowed to kill each other with RP reason suggestion) b. Jeb Threep could have worded that combat branches do not only do combat and stop being "bias" against CI (the bias part is in " " because it is not confirmed. 2. Cloaker assumed the Jeb Threep was biased when it could be his actual opinion. He was back around when maintenance was tech/jan. Who knows what his opinions are. They are opinions! Also please don't be like the last 5 reports and argue. Keep it to a +/- Support. Edited July 30, 2021 by Pills changedx2 Former: 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐃𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐫 - 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐀𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloaker Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) I think you need to report the 30 other people, all actions related to the reputation system on the forums haven't been influenced by actions in game but content you've posted on the forums which is what the reputation system is made for. I've looked back at the content Yato posted that I quoted, I found only one thing that I find could be toxic, while I don't endorse that part of the post Yato made several good points that are legitimate. Further more I've only given you a dislike once on the forums while you've given me a dislike twice. This post has been removed by the Forums Diplomat Team but I still have a screenshot, it shows you not only be toxic towards me but towards all of CI. All I've done is use the forums reputation system as it was intended. Quote 2. Abusing the forum reputation system, or encouraging others to do so is prohibited. The most common infraction is disliking multiple posts from a single member on the same day. this is quoted from the Forums Rules https://streamable.com/0gu3p1 Jeb bringing forum issues in-game ^^^ Edited July 30, 2021 by Cloaker local teenage father :3 Retired: ci ddop cloaker s1mp Ex Senior Moderator Ex Event Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yato Sensei Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Toxic comment? I literally pointed all the BIAS you keep pushing out against CI. You don't believe me? Look back at your 2 suggestions that were clearly targeted against CI so you could get the branch to do less and less in the foundation. Stop getting mad for the fact that we raid, it's fully within lore and RP. And the fact that you got so much - reps is because people found your suggestions to be bad. Also if we talk about toxicity, lets talk about that time you were with 912 at gate A. We killed you. You said something and Ignis pointed out that it wasn't funny and you proceeded to call him "Bald Fuck". I understand that he was on a job with a playermodel that is indeed bald but that doesn't give you the right to add in the second comment.- Support Edited July 30, 2021 by Yato Sensei 1 Joined 09/30/2020Retired 11/12/2022Former Security SFC || Former MTF Omi9 MSGT || Former CI CPT/MAJ || Former Nu7 LTCOL/VCMDR || Former E11 CPL || Former Maintenance Professional || Former D5 CPT || Former Senior Medic || Former Advanced Researcher | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvist Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Except the other people neg-rating aren't staff who have history with Zombinator and you are, Cloaker. You had an interaction ingame with Zombinator where you clearly taunted him OOCly with his forum feedback and ended up getting a warning on your record as a result for toxic behaviour. This is mentioned in the OP, and you conveniently did not respond to it. Nice try. Forum feedback can adversely affect how someone perceives another's posts. I think you were really pissed off by Zombinator's posts in that thread and you're just trying to pick at him. For transparency sake, you also neg-rated a posted of mine this morning and received a PM from me as a result: "Just wondering why you two neg-rated my fully fleshed out, respectful post in the D-Class/CI suggestion topic. I clearly and politely laid out my thoughts and arguments, and even at the end of the post conceded ground that some change is needed. What exactly is wrong with that? The way I see it is two staff members, ie. representatives of the community are actively fucking with me and how others are going to perceive me via the feedback system because I disagree with them. I own that shitty post I made against you in your report, Cloaker, and in hindsight I regret it, there were better ways to express my thoughts. Is that the problem here?" This was the post: Like fucking really? Edited July 30, 2021 by Kvist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Grayson Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, Cloaker said: I think you need to report the 30 other people, all actions related to the reputation system on the forums haven't been influenced by actions in game but content you've posted on the forums which is what the reputation system is made for. I've looked back at the content Yato posted that I quoted, I found only one thing that I find could be toxic, while I don't endorse that part of the post Yato made several good points that are legitimate. Further more I've only given you a dislike once on the forums while you've given me a dislike twice. This post has been removed by the Forums Diplomat Team but I still have a screenshot, it shows you not only be toxic towards me but towards all of CI. All I've done is use the forums reputation system as it was intended. this is quoted from the Forums Rules -Support Cloaker said it perfectly EX MAJ In MIL EX A2 In E4 Current VCMDR Of Sarkic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I would like to add, that suggestion was not very good as it would kill the activity of several branches, as stated by a comment in that suggestion. Which would explain all the dislikes of that post. However, if you feel you are being targeted, you have every right to post a report. I just feel there was a minor misunderstanding in the -20 rep. As for the comments made, I have no context other than the context provided at this time. So I don't wanna assume. I'll leave a -support for the time being unless things escalate every further. CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) +/- But due to the fact that cloaker has already received a formal warning for being toxic it therefore takes his reasons away from others yes there are as cloaker said around 30 other people that downvoted however the fact STANDS that based off a warning cloakers interaction with Zombinator stretches far out than simply a disagreement However I must say zombinator you're discussions with CI have also not been proactive either... hence cloakers screenshot.. I will need @STONKSMANto clarify more before i can choose to say cloakers behavior was truly negligent and or if cloaker was in the right Edited July 30, 2021 by Some minge 1 SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombinator Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Cloaker said: https://streamable.com/0gu3p1 Jeb bringing forum issues in-game ^^^ It was in-character. He was Maynard and lying. Maybe upload the previous twenty seconds, yeah? 58 minutes ago, Yato Sensei said: I understand that he was on a job with a playermodel that is indeed bald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I might be reading this whole situation wrong and forgive me if I am, but if Cloaker was already warned for it in game then why make a player report for him? +/- Support Free From GL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombinator Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 33 minutes ago, Some minge said: However I must say zombinator you're discussions with CI have also not been proactive either... hence cloakers screenshot.. I was given a strike for that post. Responding to rule-breaking by breaking a rule is prohibited, fighting toxic with toxic isn't an acceptable answer. Just now, Mary said: if Cloaker was already warned for it in game then why make a player report for him? Because the behavior continues, its a trend that has not ceased. Different issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterson Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Fourms Diplomat Message To prevent arguing and to keep the fourms clean, please leave all posts with +/- Support. Any further comments that are not needed - not helpful will be hidden. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domo775 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 -support i’ve probably killed you more then once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The CI Zero Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Yato Sensei said: Toxic comment? I literally pointed all the BIAS you keep pushing out against CI. You don't believe me? Look back at your 2 suggestions that were clearly targeted against CI so you could get the branch to do less and less in the foundation. Stop getting mad for the fact that we raid, it's fully within lore and RP. And the fact that you got so much - reps is because people found your suggestions to be bad. Also if we talk about toxicity, lets talk about that time you were with 912 at gate A. We killed you. You said something and Ignis pointed out that it wasn't funny and you proceeded to call him "Bald Fuck". I understand that he was on a job with a playermodel that is indeed bald but that doesn't give you the right to add in the second comment.- Support Ty yato -Support "𝘕𝘰 𝘐 𝘢𝘪𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯' '𝘊𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘪𝘵'𝘴 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘸𝘦'𝘷𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘵 𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘣𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯' 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘪𝘧 𝘸𝘦 𝘢𝘪𝘯'𝘵 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯'?" -Retired CI MAJ Zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jummy Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Yato Sensei said: Toxic comment? I literally pointed all the BIAS you keep pushing out against CI. You don't believe me? Look back at your 2 suggestions that were clearly targeted against CI so you could get the branch to do less and less in the foundation. Stop getting mad for the fact that we raid, it's fully within lore and RP. And the fact that you got so much - reps is because people found your suggestions to be bad. Also if we talk about toxicity, lets talk about that time you were with 912 at gate A. We killed you. You said something and Ignis pointed out that it wasn't funny and you proceeded to call him "Bald Fuck". I understand that he was on a job with a playermodel that is indeed bald but that doesn't give you the right to add in the second comment.- Support yeah, -support. Research Administrator | R.A.U. Commissioner | External Agent 3 "Oyasumi" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] funnyfish0 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Yato Sensei said: Toxic comment? I literally pointed all the BIAS you keep pushing out against CI. You don't believe me? Look back at your 2 suggestions that were clearly targeted against CI so you could get the branch to do less and less in the foundation. Stop getting mad for the fact that we raid, it's fully within lore and RP. And the fact that you got so much - reps is because people found your suggestions to be bad. Also if we talk about toxicity, lets talk about that time you were with 912 at gate A. We killed you. You said something and Ignis pointed out that it wasn't funny and you proceeded to call him "Bald Fuck". I understand that he was on a job with a playermodel that is indeed bald but that doesn't give you the right to add in the second comment.- Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Domo775 said: -support Free From GL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I think BOTH of you need a slap. This is getting hecking ridiculous. Reputation abuse, picking on each other, dissing in and out of game. Do I need to go on? People in and out of the server, not involved, are seeing this as extremely harmful to not only each other directly but each other's branches indirectly. It's time for you both to cool down. As for the report itself, +Support ONLY to have something done about it. I don't want punishment, just enough of a poke in the balloon to relieve the pressure. Remember, it's not the content of the message, it's the feeling of the message conveyed. All I feel is anger and resentment over someone's opinions. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvist Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Sparkle said: I think BOTH of you need a slap. This is getting hecking ridiculous. Reputation abuse, picking on each other, dissing in and out of game. Do I need to go on? People in and out of the server, not involved, are seeing this as extremely harmful to not only each other directly but each other's branches indirectly. It's time for you both to cool down. As for the report itself, +Support ONLY to have something done about it. I don't want punishment, just enough of a poke in the balloon to relieve the pressure. Remember, it's not the content of the message, it's the feeling of the message conveyed. All I feel is anger and resentment over someone's opinions. Again, Cloaker is the staff member here. He's held to a much higher standard. I appreciate that you are seeing things a lot more clearer than others, though we can't fall into the 'boys will be boys' trope and let a staff member slide by like this. The posts in here just prove the report - Yato, whom Cloaker has said he agrees with on this subject, is calling Zombinator out for nothing more than having a difference of opinion than him on a number of subjects, and then for the great sin of posting suggestions he also disagrees with. Then Yato is willing to go to such lengths to discredit Zombinator, he outright fabricates a story about him insulting a guy OOCly with a misleadingly out of context clip. Edited July 31, 2021 by Kvist Replaced 'edited' with 'out of context' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz L0g1c Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Cloaker said: I think you need to report the 30 other people, all actions related to the reputation system on the forums haven't been influenced by actions in game but content you've posted on the forums which is what the reputation system is made for. I've looked back at the content Yato posted that I quoted, I found only one thing that I find could be toxic, while I don't endorse that part of the post Yato made several good points that are legitimate. Further more I've only given you a dislike once on the forums while you've given me a dislike twice. This post has been removed by the Forums Diplomat Team but I still have a screenshot, it shows you not only be toxic towards me but towards all of CI. All I've done is use the forums reputation system as it was intended. this is quoted from the Forums Rules https://streamable.com/0gu3p1 Jeb bringing forum issues in-game ^^^ - Support Cloaker said it perfectly. W̵̠̽O̶̤̐̎͠R̷̨̯͇̘̓̓̐̚Ķ̶̨͙̌͗͋̐ ̷͎̻͈͘H̵̦̝̅́͝Ä̶̱̽R̷̔͊̀͜͠D̷̲̠̱͛͘ ̵̹̞͖͍̽͂Í̶̛̠́̎ͅÑ̶̟͈ ̸̭̖̋̀S̸̞̯͔̈́̍̈̽͜I̵̞̹̓͌̈́Ḹ̴͕̤̠̃Ë̶̘́͑Ṋ̵̰̞̀̏̄́C̸̼̱̏̑Ě̸͕̕͝ ̸͚͊͐͘Á̵̩̂̃N̶̩̦̈́Ḑ̷̲̣͐͐ ̷̨̣͇̄L̴̢̳̰̀̃E̸̙͗̏̕T̵̜́͛̿ ̴̝̯̠̐̇́S̸̠̣͋̆U̶̳̖̹̐C̶͙̩̽C̶̩̻̍̕E̷͈͖̓̈S̴͖͎̆͒͆͜S̸̥̞̗̠̀͌ ̶̫̩̬͂͛͝M̵͇̗͙͗͝͝A̶̛̬̦̾̿K̴̨̙̍ͅͅE̴̠͇̮͐͗́ ̵̳̲̅͑͝T̴͙͙̀̈́ͅH̶̢̎͛̈́̿E̴͈͖̹̔̂͝ ̴̹̯͓̂̈́N̶̦͌͒̔̎Ȍ̸̘͝I̴̭̠̅ͅS̸̭̼͋̕Ë̵́ A̵̙̥̭̠̓̅̎͘͝ͅ1̵̢̙̲̰̦̞͆͊ ̴̝̏́͑͂͝N̴̨͊̍o̸̖̦̬̅̑̇̍͠m̶̖̃a̸͉̤̜̪̘͑͌͝ḑ̶̘̣̬͇̈́ ̵͈̤̪͇̉͋̓̾Ỉ̴͓͔͍̻͖͕́͆͂̕͝ / Ş̵̧̛͙̙̼̌́͑̐͠T̶̢͔̫̿̓̿̅F̷̟̗̅̄̚ͅ ̷̝̈́̏̀̾̔̑D̸̰̓̾͌͝͝4̵̠̼̓̅̆͝͠ ̷̭̺͎̇H̸͚͖͇̃̀̋͘a̷̛͎͉̦̦̐̽́̑d̷̨͖͋e̵͍͒͆ś̵͈̪͓̞ ̸̣͉̄Ḍ̸̓I̶̩͖̖̟̯͒3̵̨̡̩͇̏̏ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Ceech Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 -Support Sounds like a skill issue :3 2 Deputy Head of Warns, Director of ERP and LTAP, Minge High Command Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botez Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Yato Sensei said: Toxic comment? I literally pointed all the BIAS you keep pushing out against CI. You don't believe me? Look back at your 2 suggestions that were clearly targeted against CI so you could get the branch to do less and less in the foundation. Stop getting mad for the fact that we raid, it's fully within lore and RP. And the fact that you got so much - reps is because people found your suggestions to be bad. Also if we talk about toxicity, lets talk about that time you were with 912 at gate A. We killed you. You said something and Ignis pointed out that it wasn't funny and you proceeded to call him "Bald Fuck". I understand that he was on a job with a playermodel that is indeed bald but that doesn't give you the right to add in the second comment.- Support 6 hours ago, Cloaker said: I think you need to report the 30 other people, all actions related to the reputation system on the forums haven't been influenced by actions in game but content you've posted on the forums which is what the reputation system is made for. I've looked back at the content Yato posted that I quoted, I found only one thing that I find could be toxic, while I don't endorse that part of the post Yato made several good points that are legitimate. Further more I've only given you a dislike once on the forums while you've given me a dislike twice. This post has been removed by the Forums Diplomat Team but I still have a screenshot, it shows you not only be toxic towards me but towards all of CI. All I've done is use the forums reputation system as it was intended. this is quoted from the Forums Rules https://streamable.com/0gu3p1 Jeb bringing forum issues in-game ^^^ Couldn’t have said it better idk im 2LT ok bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IgnisNuts Posted July 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2021 -Support Removal from staff is way too harsh from him just putting a dislike on the forums. The other part was already handled in a staff sit, no need to bring it to the forums. 10 CI CMDRCC: CI Requiem Squad XH-76 Biggest DMC Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack S Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Sparkle said: I think BOTH of you need a slap. This is getting hecking ridiculous. Reputation abuse, picking on each other, dissing in and out of game. Do I need to go on? People in and out of the server, not involved, are seeing this as extremely harmful to not only each other directly but each other's branches indirectly. It's time for you both to cool down. As for the report itself, +Support ONLY to have something done about it. I don't want punishment, just enough of a poke in the balloon to relieve the pressure. Remember, it's not the content of the message, it's the feeling of the message conveyed. All I feel is anger and resentment over someone's opinions. Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Talos Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 -SUPPORT This is a player report not a staff report so you cant really Request his removal from staff and this is just beginning to be a childish game so yall got to stop hatting on each other ill talk to cloaker and you got to chill since it all came from a suggestion that was against ci and you kept responding with stupid things and they hated that so we should close this and stop with the childish stuff 3 1 Best Regards From The Middle East CI General The Middle Eastern Prince The Last Oil Bender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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