PandaInShitpostLand Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 What are you suggesting? - Buffing (Heavily buffing) Assault rifles and LMG's (with the obvious exception of the negev). currently the meta is shotguns, smg's, and N E G E V. lets diverse it a little. assault rifles suffer from too much recoil and spread, lets lower that down making assault rifles good at most ranges. the spread buff will allow hipfire at closer ranges(and while crouching medium-close range), while a recoil buff will make the assault rifle good at longer rangers(Such as medium long) this will make classes which are FORCED to use assault rifles more useful and dont have to go buy a mossberg from the armory. (The H&K Assault rifle also suffers from not enough damage output. so lets buff that damage as well) LMG's (all of this post has the negev as an exclusion) have a very common problem, little firerate, not enough damage, too much recoil for the firerate, due to the amount of lmgs compared to assault rifles i can give some accurate problems. The M249 doesn't do enough damage and the firerate is shit, the P90 is a better version of it, The M60 has an accurate firerrate based on real life, so dont touch that, but the damage is the same as a fucking CZ-75. buff that damage HEAVILY, The PKM is fine where it is except lets buff the firerate a little. (also i would like to point out the tommy gun is terrible and should have much less spread/recoil) How would this change better the server? - The shunned weapons banished to the shadow realm will return with new eyes, being better and people would actually buy them from armory Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - LITERALLY NOTHING Who would this change mostly benefit? - LITERALLY EVERYONE... except scps but screw those guys Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion N/A The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 +Support, I think It'd be nice to have the meta not be : Awp, Remmington/Benelli/Mosberg, Negev & MP5/7. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I mean in real life assault rifles are supposed to have great range and not huge recoil, so it makes sense. Plus it expands the weapons that can actually be used. Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Rookieblue said: I mean in real life assault rifles are supposed to have great range and not huge recoil, so it makes sense. Plus it expands the weapons that can actually be used. Yes, for example: M4 great gun Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoID Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Phillers said: +Support, I think It'd be nice to have the meta not be : Awp, Remmington/Benelli/Mosberg, Negev & MP5/7. With Best Regards,CI R&D Deputy Director Of Operations|| - Retired SCP-RP Event Team Leader || Retired SCP-RP Admin || -Retired CI R&D Head of Research|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rito Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 +Support Right now, most of the Asssaults rifles are trash and the only usable weapons are either knives, shotguns, negev or the AWP. Right now, I believe the only good assault rifle in use is the M4A4, and even it's decent but you would lose a fight with someone who has an KAC PDW easily. It would be nice to see Assault rifles come back and people actually use them. Current: Nu-7 VCMDR Former: E-11 VCMDR/LT-COL totally didn't get demoted || Event Team Member || CI SFTO 2LT CCs: Snoop Dog Owner || Previous Rho-36 Occult Operative || Used to be Reznov || CI TF2 Heavy || MTF Zeta-0 'Caste Gates' || Tango-12 'Forgiving Hand' French Canadian man || Mbappé fan in the making Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, vSquishyv said: +Support Right now, most of the Asssaults rifles are trash and the only usable weapons are either knives, shotguns, negev or the AWP. Right now, I believe the only good assault rifle in use is the M4A4, and even it's decent but you would lose a fight with someone who has an KAC PDW easily. It would be nice to see Assault rifles come back and people actually use them. when everyones focused on assault rifles and not the lmgs be like The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a frog Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, vSquishyv said: +Support Right now, most of the Asssaults rifles are trash and the only usable weapons are either knives, shotguns, negev or the AWP. Right now, I believe the only good assault rifle in use is the M4A4, and even it's decent but you would lose a fight with someone who has an KAC PDW easily. It would be nice to see Assault rifles come back and people actually use them. imagine a assault rifle getting beat by a smg +support E11 1LT []FORMER CI MAJOR[]Former MTF OMICRON-9 CAPTAIN[]Former Janitorial Low Command[]Former E11 HCMD[Former overseer of D4,Former experimental, Former E4]"The fuck is a ethics committee?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, frog said: imagine a assault rifle getting beat by a smg +support at medium range The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodaㅤ Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, vSquishyv said: +Support Right now, most of the Asssaults rifles are trash and the only usable weapons are either knives, shotguns, negev or the AWP. Right now, I believe the only good assault rifle in use is the M4A4, and even it's decent but you would lose a fight with someone who has an KAC PDW easily. It would be nice to see Assault rifles come back and people actually use them. Nu7 CPT | Nu7 DHFTO | Head of Degeneracy | Former OH7 | | HSU #1 | Ex Nu7 MAJ | Ex DHFTO | Ex HSU Commissar | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bread Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Here's how most assault rifles will perform while ADSing. The spread has been reduced significantly, and this will go into effect whenever my addon is updated. LMGs have also received similar treatment. MedalTVGarrysMod20201220160532.mp4 Maybe I should increase the damage of ARs to the high 30's/low 40s and the damage of most LMGs to the Mid-high 30s. lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Bread said: Here's how most assault rifles will perform while ADSing. The spread has been reduced significantly, and this will go into effect whenever my addon is updated. LMGs have also received similar treatment. MedalTVGarrysMod20201220160532.mp4 26.88 MB · 0 downloads Maybe I should increase the damage of ARs to the high 30's/low 40s and the damage of most LMGs to the Mid-high 30s. the m60 has a firerate similar to real life m60, but the damage is 33, the same with the CZ-75, buff the damage on that to the high 40's Also it might be possible to buff the tommy guns recoil/spread, its unusable The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Just give good firerate to them, like HK pretick change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yato Sensei Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Phillers said: +Support, I think It'd be nice to have the meta not be : Awp, Remmington/Benelli/Mosberg, Negev & MP5/7. Lets get those bad boys buffed! Joined 09/30/2020Retired 11/12/2022Former Security SFC || Former MTF Omi9 MSGT || Former CI CPT/MAJ || Former Nu7 LTCOL/VCMDR || Former E11 CPL || Former Maintenance Professional || Former D5 CPT || Former Senior Medic || Former Advanced Researcher | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Give my HK some good treatment +Support Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bread Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) I don't like explaining this, BUT: Due to the 16 TPS, that messes with the firerates. The only difference of RPM you can notice is: Under 360, Over 361, over ~600?, and over 961. If you want to have everything shoot fast, they'll need to have the RPM of a Vector. (Please keep in mind that these numbers aren't 100% accurate but I've had plenty of time testing them on 16TPS.) Edited December 21, 2020 by Bread lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Bread said: I don't like explaining this, BUT: Due to the 16 TPS, that messes with the firerates. The only difference of RPM you can notice is: Under 360, Over 361, over ~600?, and over 961. If you want to have everything shoot fast, they'll need to have the RPM of a Vector. (Please keep in mind that these numbers aren't 100% accurate but I've had plenty of time testing them on 16TPS.) due to this massive realization, it seems buffing damage, spread, and recoil is the only answer The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAim Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 +Support Please just make ARs usable in the meta Retired Imperial RP Super Admin and Grand General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 +support I’ve only ever used AR’s and LMG’s while on GENSEC since the basic classes don’t have anything better. Plus it would be nice to see something different. Free From GL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 +Support ARs and LMGs have been needing some love for awhile now. Shotgun, negev, and sniper meta is getting kinda old. [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0LT Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 +support lol ik you doin this for your shotgun thing but aight nothing too bad lol Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx On: Alpha-8 | S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gh0pit Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 9:26 AM, Panda0Playz said: (also i would like to point out the tommy gun is terrible and should have much less spread/recoil) i mean i only use the tommy gun as an interrogation method. Thing drowns out hearing better than an actual gunshot to the ear. +support Retired CMDR of Epsilon-11 D-Class Main/CI gang/RHO 36 Detective ~You say stop it, I say Gh0pit~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarl Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 12:05 PM, vSquishyv said: +Support Right now, most of the Asssaults rifles are trash and the only usable weapons are either knives, shotguns, negev or the AWP. Right now, I believe the only good assault rifle in use is the M4A4, and even it's decent but you would lose a fight with someone who has an KAC PDW easily. It would be nice to see Assault rifles come back and people actually use them. facts Retired: Nu7 SM Zarl/Head Of Medical Staff Zack/Medic Man Larry/HTF Head ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 10:36 AM, Phillers said: +Support, I think It'd be nice to have the meta not be : Awp, Remmington/Benelli/Mosberg, Negev & MP5/7. Deputy Head of Security | Executive Event Team | Admin | Forum Diplomat | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bread Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) Assault rifles will do around 10 more damage per shot and will have a large accuracy buff - Most do around ~40 damage and is best for Mid-range combat, but can be used close range as well. SMGs are being tuned to shred in close-quarters and be an alternative to Shotguns. LMGs will get a buff in terms of accuracy and will be more usuable The FG-42 is returning to 1000RPM with a damage decrease so I'm curious as to how that'll go SMGS will do a ton of damage up close but will have massive spread - Most will do ~45 damage, depending on the magsize. The time to kill is very close to a shotgun for these, only if you're in the enemies face. These will be difficult to use further than 5-10 feet out, as the spread makes them impossible to hit with. The Remington, Mossberg, and M3 are going down to 10x12 to discourage overuse - It'll take 1 extra shot to kill things compared to how it is right now. The weakest snipers are getting buffed Pistols are receiving damage buffs + Ironsight fixes for most guns that needed them These changes do not include the CS:GO weapons, yet. There's gonna be a handful of weapons that have 1000 RPM but will have much lower damage and will be very difficult to hit with and control, I'm taking a risk that these will be overused and I will nerf them even more if that happens I based my testing off of moving targets and not just people who are standing still, these are all the changes I've done over the last few months Edited December 27, 2020 by Bread lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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