Entrance Zone Armory - Denied

[TG_Kilo]

What you want to see? -  I wish to see a keypad added to the button of EZ armory.

Why should we add it? -  It is very easy to open. When CI raid, they may easily open the door and take over the armory and use it as a mini safe haven, which I have seen done once or twice. Whenever there is a mass D-Class breach, they can easily access the armory once they reach EZ. Even if they avoid the LCZ armory.

What are the advantages of having this? -  If LCZ has an armory Keypad, why shouldn't EZ?

Who is it mainly for? - Everyone

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[Ze Blightcaller]

Yeah I like to see a keypad added to the EZ armory

+support

[Catsro]

-Support 

I think this is an unneeded change as CI has an armory on surface to already get them well equipped for the raid before they raid. If it becomes a problem then I think MTF should better guard the armory with strategy.

[Phillers]

5 minutes ago, Catsro said:

-Support 

I think this is an unneeded change as CI has an armory on surface to already get them well equipped for the raid before they raid. If it becomes a problem then I think MTF should better guard the armory with strategy.

I believe that its not so much about the weapons, but much more about the Armor. Being able to top off on 100 additional armor in the EZ without having to do so much as cracking a keypad, aswell as the amount of HP that can be regained (Which granted, takes time, but still), Because nearly all high-level CI classes have a medkit, and these are often used.

Overall, this allows CI to regain their HP and Armour rather fast, now if they actualy had to do any effort for this it wouldn't be so much of an issue, but it really isn't since they can just walk on in.

So, from me this gets a big +Support on a keypad.

[Orange 🍊]

30 minutes ago, TG_Waffle said:

which I have seen done once or twice.

I dont think it's that huge of a problem if it's been seen once or twice.

Ez armory is our only quick armor source and it's still a high risk one because mtf spawn right next to it. You now have technicians for armor and key cards to open LCZ armory for quick armor.

20 minutes ago, Catsro said:

-Support 

I think this is an unneeded change as CI has an armory on surface to already get them well equipped for the raid before they raid. If it becomes a problem then I think MTF should better guard the armory with strategy.

 

[BadAim]

21 minutes ago, Falxen said:

I believe that its not so much about the weapons, but much more about the Armor. Being able to top off on 100 additional armor in the EZ without having to do so much as cracking a keypad, aswell as the amount of HP that can be regained (Which granted, takes time, but still), Because nearly all high-level CI classes have a medkit, and these are often used.

Overall, this allows CI to regain their HP and Armour rather fast, now if they actualy had to do any effort for this it wouldn't be so much of an issue, but it really isn't since they can just walk on in.

So, from me this gets a big +Support on a keypad.

 

[TG_Kilo]

4 minutes ago, Official Orange said:

Ez armory is our only quick armor source

Sorry to reply to my own post, but you just stated the exact reason why this should be in place. An armory isn't suppose to be easily accessible, it should be secured. Also, this shouldn't be quick and easy, raiding us is meant to be a bit challenging since this is a secure site in RP, and should be set out to serve as one

[Orange 🍊]

2 minutes ago, TG_Waffle said:

Sorry to reply to my own post, but you just stated the exact reason why this should be in place. An armory isn't suppose to be easily accessible, it should be secured. Also, this shouldn't be quick and easy, raiding us is meant to be a bit challenging since this is a secure site in RP, and should be set out to serve as one

Your spawn secures the location pretty much, if it takes about 30 seconds for a non pro to crack through that door, the chances are for certain that an MTF's nlr ends and comes in kills all the ci cracking armory. This change would make that armory pointless. The armory in lcz is not an issue as gensec either go straight for d block or are much easier to deal with than MTF.

CI also have an armory that MTF can easily access once they enter too, we both have to fight our way to it how ever, balancing things out a bit.

[Propane]

1 hour ago, Catsro said:

-Support 

I think this is an unneeded change as CI has an armory on surface to already get them well equipped for the raid before they raid. If it becomes a problem then I think MTF should better guard the armory with strategy.

It makes sense in RP, but other than that it just annoys non-foundation

[Ritz]

2 hours ago, Catsro said:

-Support 

I think this is an unneeded change as CI has an armory on surface to already get them well equipped for the raid before they raid. If it becomes a problem then I think MTF should better guard the armory with strategy.

^
also, if they're holding the armory use the nade's (assuming you're not on a cc) in order to blast them out or to make an effective entrance
 

Edited April 24, 2020 by Ritz

[Bionicle]

3 hours ago, Catsro said:

-Support 

I think this is an unneeded change as CI has an armory on surface to already get them well equipped for the raid before they raid. If it becomes a problem then I think MTF should better guard the armory with strategy.

 

[October]

-support 

Practically speaking CI doesn’t really use that armory. This is because we shouldn’t have taken extreme damage by the time we arrive at the EZ armory. The only time I can think we’ve ever used that armory is on the raid where we took control of the control room, but other than that we don’t go there, so it seems like a waste. 

[TG_Kilo]

This is for D-Class as well, not just CI

Edited April 24, 2020 by TG_Waffle

[Ritz]

4 hours ago, TG_Waffle said:

This is for D-Class as well, not just CI

most d-class who make it to ez are armed
and those who do can just be shot

In my opinion it's not worth annoying MTF who want to use it just to stop a D-Class or CI for 30 seconds

[Jakub]

-support idiotic  idea based on the fact that anyone in ez already has clearance to be in the armory

[Coltable]

 

-Support

This is not needed on the server as of right now you have stated that this has happened only once or twice which tells me straight away that it is not a huge issue.

All personnel who have permission to be in EZ would already have access to the armory and as such makes less sense to put a keypad on the door. 

If CI did manage to grab hold of Armory it is not a major treat as it is literately outside of MTF spawn so if MTF work together and push just like how Gensec mass push for Dblock they should be able to get it back.

 

[Neo]

9 hours ago, Catsro said:

-Support 

I think this is an unneeded change as CI has an armory on surface to already get them well equipped for the raid before they raid. If it becomes a problem then I think MTF should better guard the armory with strategy.

^What he said^
If you cared about us using this as a "safe-haven" you would properly defend it.
Kinda like what you guys do outside the 05 room.

Edited April 25, 2020 by Neo

[Dr. Lee]

15 minutes ago, Gasss said:

+Support 

Just because they have one on the surface doesn't mean they wont run out of supplies and need to resupply at the armory. I don't see why something equip with guns and medical supplies in Entrance Zone wouldn't have at least some sort of security to get through in a real foundation

 

[[GL] Zeus]

9 hours ago, Official Orange said:

Your spawn secures the location pretty much, if it takes about 30 seconds for a non pro to crack through that door, the chances are for certain that an MTF's nlr ends and comes in kills all the ci cracking armory. This change would make that armory pointless. The armory in lcz is not an issue as gensec either go straight for d block or are much easier to deal with than MTF.

CI also have an armory that MTF can easily access once they enter too, we both have to fight our way to it how ever, balancing things out a bit.

 

38 minutes ago, Jakub said:

-support idiotic  idea based on the fact that anyone in ez already has clearance to be in the armory

-Support 

 

[Jakub]

if d class get to ez then they most likely are already armed

[[GL] Dtscalice]

-support

If CI or D class make it to that armory and armor up or attempt to use it as a "Safe Haven" Use Grenades, all MTF Classes (to my knowledge) have them and they have AoE also if your worried about that Guard it more or better since it is basically right next to MTF spawn they could spawn someone is highly likely to be finishing NLR and so it would be an annoyance to MTF and non Foundation since it would take extra time to Open the door, Close the door, Grab what you need, Open door again, Close Door again. Even so if its only happened once or twice it doesn't seem to happen often then making this suggestion pointless, Another point is that D class most likely are already armed when they reach EZ, Another thing about MTF spawn if you think about it how much time would it take for a MTF fresh off NLR to reach the CI while CI numbers are much less than MTF when CI start dying off and they cant come back while MTF Can

[[GL] Inaccurate]

24 minutes ago, [GL] Dtscalice said:

-support

If CI or D class make it to that armory and armor up or attempt to use it as a "Safe Haven" Use Grenades, all MTF Classes (to my knowledge) have them and they have AoE also if your worried about that Guard it more or better since it is basically right next to MTF spawn they could spawn someone is highly likely to be finishing NLR and so it would be an annoyance to MTF and non Foundation since it would take extra time to Open the door, Close the door, Grab what you need, Open door again, Close Door again. Even so if its only happened once or twice it doesn't seem to happen often then making this suggestion pointless, Another point is that D class most likely are already armed when they reach EZ, Another thing about MTF spawn if you think about it how much time would it take for a MTF fresh off NLR to reach the CI while CI numbers are much less than MTF when CI start dying off and they cant come back while MTF Can

 

[Retired DoTF Daedran]

 

16 hours ago, Gasss said:

+Support 

Just because they have one on the surface doesn't mean they wont run out of supplies and need to resupply at the armory. I don't see why something equip with guns and medical supplies in Entrance Zone wouldn't have at least some sort of security to get through in a real foundation

It makes sense to have a secure armory in the EZ area +support

 

[Curtis]

17 hours ago, Gasss said:

+Support 

Just because they have one on the surface doesn't mean they wont run out of supplies and need to resupply at the armory. I don't see why something equip with guns and medical supplies in Entrance Zone wouldn't have at least some sort of security to get through in a real foundation

When CI or D Class  run back though and  they kill MTF and if MTF are able to come back from their NLR it would be very easy for people to run in there and use the armory as well. Even if everyone has the clearance level to get in the armory its for Foundation Personnel Only why make it easy to get to. + Support

 

[Dang]

17 hours ago, Coltable said:

 

-Support

This is not needed on the server as of right now you have stated that this has happened only once or twice which tells me straight away that it is not a huge issue.

All personnel who have permission to be in EZ would already have access to the armory and as such makes less sense to put a keypad on the door. 

If CI did manage to grab hold of Armory it is not a major treat as it is literately outside of MTF spawn so if MTF work together and push just like how Gensec mass push for Dblock they should be able to get it back.