ColeSoft Grey Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 What you want to see? - Tac units cannot be kidnapped Why should we add it? - In reality. Tac units work it teams of 5 to 10. So you would never be able to find a lone tac member. And how are you ment to kidnap a highly trained and well armed Member of a tactical branch in the first place. What are the advantages of having this? - Adds RP. Prevents the "all tac on the server is kidnapped leaving PD to negotiate" issue. Who is it mainly for? - PD Links to any content - nahh Cole Sladvak // ColeSoft Grey | PoliceRP | SRT Command | Police Lieutenant | Retired FBI Command of 3 Years - Deputy Director | Retired S.W.A.T Command | Thought up SS and created HRT | Former UMC | 2014 GL Veteran | 2016 PoliceRP LEO | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 -support just have a weapon out at all times :3 SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJayden Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Just now, Hannah said: -support just have a weapon out at all times :3 TheJayden | Retired PoliceRP PD Colonel | Retired/Reserve Delta Squad Second Lieutenant | Street Crimes Unit Co-Commander | Member of Gaminglight since March 29, 2018 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulness Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 -support not needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
𝙁𝙧𝙚𝙚𝙯𝙚 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 We used to have this rule, where you needed 3 crim+ to kidnap tac, rule got removed cause it was kinda dumb. Maybe something like 2 + but otherwise - support Former S.W.A.T Commander & J.M.T Member Quote Best driver of the year award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer. Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Freeze said: We used to have this rule, where you needed 3 crim+ to kidnap tac, rule got removed cause it was kinda dumb. Maybe something like 2 + but otherwise - support Killer | Gaminglight Member Since 2016 | Retired PD Colonel l State Major l SPRT Co-Commander l FBI Assistant Director l UMC Level 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColeSoft Grey Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Hannah said: -support just have a weapon out at all times :3 The issue there is. Even if you have a gun out on safety. Your still under fearRP Cole Sladvak // ColeSoft Grey | PoliceRP | SRT Command | Police Lieutenant | Retired FBI Command of 3 Years - Deputy Director | Retired S.W.A.T Command | Thought up SS and created HRT | Former UMC | 2014 GL Veteran | 2016 PoliceRP LEO | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Raddish Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, soulness said: -support not needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosted Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 5 hours ago, soulness said: -support not needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp90xxx Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 -Support The way I see it, If the tac person has a gun out at all times and remains in his group of teammates, then there should be no issue with getting kidnapped. However, if a tac member puts himself into a position where they are alone somewhere and dont have a gun out, then that is just a personal issue. The tac member should be smart and trained enough not to make him so vulnerable. Therefor, being able to be kidnapped at a time like that is perfectly logical. Also, if the tac member has a gun out I dont think fearRP applies because the gun is ready to go so if someone was to run up the tac member could easily engage in a gun battle. PD Major, EMS Captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 - Support Reasoning above Ender | Former SWAT Lieutenant | Senior Low Command | SWAT FTO | Previous PoliceRP Administrator COL Will 1L52 to admins: Max, you ain't going to scare them, you are on a female model and stuttering... "So what're you doing?" - @SWAT LT Ender 22-D "Putting my clothes back on". - @SWAT SFC Nao 27-D "There's a fine line between right and wrong. And somewhere, in the shadows, they've sent us to find it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColeSoft Grey Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 58 minutes ago, richp90xxx said: -Support The way I see it, If the tac person has a gun out at all times and remains in his group of teammates, then there should be no issue with getting kidnapped. However, if a tac member puts himself into a position where they are alone somewhere and dont have a gun out, then that is just a personal issue. The tac member should be smart and trained enough not to make him so vulnerable. Therefor, being able to be kidnapped at a time like that is perfectly logical. Also, if the tac member has a gun out I dont think fearRP applies because the gun is ready to go so if someone was to run up the tac member could easily engage in a gun battle. And if your the only tac unit on? And even having your weapon on safety and someone pulls their gun on you is still FearRP on you. What are you suppose to do? Cole Sladvak // ColeSoft Grey | PoliceRP | SRT Command | Police Lieutenant | Retired FBI Command of 3 Years - Deputy Director | Retired S.W.A.T Command | Thought up SS and created HRT | Former UMC | 2014 GL Veteran | 2016 PoliceRP LEO | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp90xxx Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 minute ago, ColeSoft Grey said: And if your the only tac unit on? And even having your weapon on safety and someone pulls their gun on you is still FearRP on you. What are you suppose to do? As being the only tac unit, in your initial suggestion you wrote “Tac units work it teams of 5 to 10. So you would never be able to find a lone tac member.” So, if they are alone because no one is on then that is just an unfortunate situation and then they should have waited for more tac to be on then for there to be an actual team. Also, in the tac training they say to always have a gun out, this makes it so tac is always ready to fight or defend themselves. I think that it can’t be fear-rp since the tac member already has a gun out and safety will not change anything. Its a lot different when your gun is holstered and you are at gun point verses when the gun is in your hand and ready to fire within a second. I do see the point in your suggestion but it would not really be rp if a tac member couldn’t be kidnapped simply because it’s a new rule. I believe if a criminal sees an opportunity to kidnap the tac member, they should be well within their right to do so and the tac member should always be ready for a situation like that to happen and use his training and awareness to minimize the likely hood of such a thing happening. The way the current rule is makes it fair game for everyone. PD Major, EMS Captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColeSoft Grey Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 1 minute ago, richp90xxx said: As being the only tac unit, in your initial suggestion you wrote “Tac units work it teams of 5 to 10. So you would never be able to find a lone tac member.” So, if they are alone because no one is on then that is just an unfortunate situation and then they should have waited for more tac to be on then for there to be an actual team I think you missed the "In reality" part 2 minutes ago, richp90xxx said: Also, in the tac training they say to always have a gun out, this makes it so tac is always ready to fight or defend themselves. I think that it can’t be fear-rp since the tac member already has a gun out and safety will not change anything. Its a lot different when your gun is holstered and you are at gun point verses when the gun is in your hand and ready to fire within a second. SMT Rules Cole Sladvak // ColeSoft Grey | PoliceRP | SRT Command | Police Lieutenant | Retired FBI Command of 3 Years - Deputy Director | Retired S.W.A.T Command | Thought up SS and created HRT | Former UMC | 2014 GL Veteran | 2016 PoliceRP LEO | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDerick Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Ender said: - Support Reasoning above Derick | Gaminglight Member Since 2016 | FBI Deputy Director Derick RA3 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Admin Will Posted April 19, 2020 Head Admin Share Posted April 19, 2020 Yeah, -Support. Tac units are hard to kidnap and often risky since they usually work in teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternity Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 12:22 AM, ColeSoft Grey said: The issue there is. Even if you have a gun out on safety. Your still under fearRP If your gun is on safety, fearrp doesn't apply. You can still run or shoot. PoliceRP Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kade Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 -Support You kinda contradicted yourself, if they're alone, that's their fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hau Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 -support -semi RP server most tac teams operate in 1 or at most 4 in this server -if you feel insecure do a ridealong Hau you doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Admin [GL] Mikey Posted April 20, 2020 Head Admin Share Posted April 20, 2020 6 hours ago, Kade said: -Support You kinda contradicted yourself, if they're alone, that's their fault. -support You know who I am, unless you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Alpha Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 4:00 PM, Freeze said: We used to have this rule, where you needed 3 crim+ to kidnap tac, rule got removed cause it was kinda dumb. Maybe something like 2 + but otherwise - support Ex - CWRP Admin Alpha| Ex - Clone General Alpha| "All of you chumps are gonna bow, when I whoop him. All of ya! I know you got him, I know you got him picked...But the man's in trouble. I'mma show YOU how GREAT I AM!" -Muhammad Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayden Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 9 hours ago, Kade said: -Support You kinda contradicted yourself, if they're alone, that's their fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Denied. The SMT team for this server has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. PoliceRP Manager Retired SRT Commander | Police Commissioner | Department Supervisor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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