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What are you suggesting? - change Sarkic to another GOI

How would this change better the server? - Sarkic rarely ever raid, and when they do it's usually one person raiding. Sarkic takes up unnecessary space on the server because nobody uses it. If you ask me, I think people don't really play as Sarkic because it's kind of boring. You play as a cult member and have to try to kidnap other players. Sarkic isn't appealing to others. However, changing Sarkic to a different, more interesting GOI, will not only give the branch a purpose, but it can also attract more donators. If Sarkic does get changed to another GOI, I recommend the G.O.C as people seem to like that (and personally, I do too).

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - The only disadvantages to making this change would be having to change the MOTD, change the way Sarkic functions, and find new models. Weapons will (maybe) have to be changed around.

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Donators on the server.

Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - Here is a player model that could be used for a G.O.C replacement for Sarkic: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=600703716&searchtext=CSGO

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I think more time should be invested into Sarkic rather than creating an entire new branch. G.O.C. would effectively be another militarized raiding party for the Foundation to deal with, while the Sarkic Cult is a purely neutral group of suicidal cultists that hinders the operations of both sides.

Finding G.O.C. more interesting than Sarkic lore is a matter of personal opinion, really.

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9 minutes ago, Kvist said:

I think more time should be invested into Sarkic rather than creating an entire new branch. G.O.C. would effectively be another militarized raiding party for the Foundation to deal with, while the Sarkic Cult is a purely neutral group of suicidal cultists that hinders the operations of both sides.

Finding G.O.C. more interesting than Sarkic lore is a matter of personal opinion, really.

Sarkic aren't neutral. They are hostile to all groups except other Sarkic. From what I have seen, people don't play on Sarkic because they just don't like the branch. If you're going to add a donator branch, at least make it fun. Also, it isn't the lore that matters. Because people don't actually play on Sarkic that much, Sarkic only acts as an annoyance. A few changes could go a long way and attract more people, making the server more fun. I can promise you, the players will enjoy the idea of a 3-team fight on surface.

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1 hour ago, Cintal said:

Sarkic aren't neutral. They are hostile to all groups except other Sarkic. From what I have seen, people don't play on Sarkic because they just don't like the branch. If you're going to add a donator branch, at least make it fun. Also, it isn't the lore that matters. Because people don't actually play on Sarkic that much, Sarkic only acts as an annoyance. A few changes could go a long way and attract more people, making the server more fun. I can promise you, the players will enjoy the idea of a 3-team fight on surface.

That's not necessarily true, in some canons sarkic is indeed neutral but with all religions there are zealots (like the black lodge).  You'd be correct in saying that in *most* of the canons they are not neutral, but to state that they aren't as a fact like you are is inherently incorrect as can be seen during the Inevitable timeline.

other than that -support as sarkic is really fun to play as and suicide bombing is fun af.

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there are already enough branches in the server and if make sarkic one it will just be taking away from CI and hurting there activity, and besides that at the end of the day how different do you think playing as sarkic when they are a branch as opposed to how they are now. They are meant to be a job you hop on and have a bit of fun with and that's it, but thats just my opinion on this.

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-Support the reason you don’t see a ton of sarkic is that it wasn’t supposed to be a class you main, it’s meant to be a job you raid on and have some fun then do something else.

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11 hours ago, Cintal said:

Sarkic aren't neutral. They are hostile to all groups except other Sarkic. From what I have seen, people don't play on Sarkic because they just don't like the branch. If you're going to add a donator branch, at least make it fun. Also, it isn't the lore that matters. Because people don't actually play on Sarkic that much, Sarkic only acts as an annoyance. A few changes could go a long way and attract more people, making the server more fun. I can promise you, the players will enjoy the idea of a 3-team fight on surface.

Okay are we splitting hairs about the definition of the word 'neutral'? It can mean either: not taking part or giving assistance in a dispute or war between others, or not aligned with or supporting any side or position in a controversy. The Sarkic Cult clearly aligns with the former definition, especially with how it acts ingame. And you're the one who brought up G.O.C. being more 'interesting' than Sarkic, so if you weren't referring to the lore, what exactly were you referring to? 🤷‍♂️

I don't know dude, I've had lots of 3-way fights on the surface. Sarkic should be expanded rather than putting in another militarized faction that will act identically to CI. You don't just have to raid on Sarkic, you can also chill on the surface and pick off stragglers and raiding parties if you're bored. That's fun too!

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6 hours ago, Kvist said:

It can mean either: not taking part or giving assistance in a dispute or war between others, or not aligned with or supporting any side or position in a controversy. The Sarkic Cult clearly aligns with the former definition, especially with how it acts ingame.

I think you mean the latter definition. But I still agree regardless. Edit: Actually neither definition fits perfectly. Both hint towards inaction instead of being on their "own" side.

The GOC would be more Anti-Foundation, leading it to more or less ally with CI. 

Sarkics are a good hostile neutrality that I like better. 

Overall,  -Support

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17 minutes ago, Right Twix Bar said:

The GOC would be more Anti-Foundation, leading it to more or less ally with CI.

Not really, GOC is essentially the UN, it is HIGHLY against CI’s tactics as they commit themselves to what is essentially guerrilla warfare

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Aside from the introduction of Delta five and the removal of omicron 9 there hasn’t been much change in the server as far as new branches go, maybe this would be a change for the server that could prove interesting/useful. I’ll leave a +support to spice things up 😊

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20 hours ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said:

-support

Been suggested several times before. Nothing's changed. Just not worth it.

Better to try than not do anything 

15 hours ago, Soggy said:

+/-Support

Maybe make a payed for GOI division kinda like E11

I don't really get what you mean

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Thanks for clearing that. Honestly that sounds like a good idea, but people would probably complain that branches would lose members because everyone wants to join the new GOI. It would be like adding a new burger on a menu and everyone forgets about the other sandwiches.

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17 minutes ago, Cintal said:

Thanks for clearing that. Honestly that sounds like a good idea, but people would probably complain that branches would lose members because everyone wants to join the new GOI. It would be like adding a new burger on a menu and everyone forgets about the other sandwiches.

Well the thing is sarkic is already donor GOI. The better idea (even though I don’t want this) is making sarkic an actual branch instead of making a new one.

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2 hours ago, Grеg said:

making sarkic an actual branch.

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Personally I think the way Sarkics are now isn't good at all. However; I think the concept of having sarkics on the server is excellent and I think they should stay, they just need to be reworked to both match lore and be more interesting apart from just a job to mess around on which would encourage better RP.

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On 2/22/2022 at 9:33 PM, Kvist said:

I think more time should be invested into Sarkic rather than creating an entire new branch. G.O.C. would effectively be another militarized raiding party for the Foundation to deal with, while the Sarkic Cult is a purely neutral group of suicidal cultists that hinders the operations of both sides.

Finding G.O.C. more interesting than Sarkic lore is a matter of personal opinion, really.

Sarkic hasn't been updated that much due to the fact as its a class people get on and just fuck around on. It's not a main branch so there is no ranking system involved other than the donation ranks. The reason I do not play on Sarkic is because their weapons are very very very bad so the only things you can really do  is explode or capture people. If Sarkic would get regular updates like any other branch on the server I would see it get more popular and activity, however I don't think the managers would want to take the time and effort to update a couple of classes that no one really takes seriously. 

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On 2/22/2022 at 9:26 PM, Demon Dice said:

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there are already enough branches in the server and if make sarkic one it will just be taking away from CI and hurting there activity, and besides that at the end of the day how different do you think playing as sarkic when they are a branch as opposed to how they are now. They are meant to be a job you hop on and have a bit of fun with and that's it, but thats just my opinion on this.

 

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On 2/24/2022 at 9:26 PM, Cuz L0g1c said:

Sarkic hasn't been updated that much due to the fact as its a class people get on and just fuck around on. It's not a main branch so there is no ranking system involved other than the donation ranks. The reason I do not play on Sarkic is because their weapons are very very very bad so the only things you can really do  is explode or capture people. If Sarkic would get regular updates like any other branch on the server I would see it get more popular and activity, however I don't think the managers would want to take the time and effort to update a couple of classes that no one really takes seriously. 

the reason nobody ever touched sarkic is this right here you cant do anything if you arent a prophet as everything below has no options sarkic need buffs to 

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