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Steam Name: girlboy

SteamID: STEAM_0:1:447986037

Ingame Name: girlboy

Ban Length: 1 week

Admin that Banned you: Zeus

Reason for Ban: Using an autoclicker for mining.

Dispute: I'm assuming there must be some taboo about using autoclickers. I'm aware in the MOTD it says that third party programs are prohibited, but I thought that referred to more abusive programs such as hacks and cheats that completely destroy the experience for other players (aimbotting, scripts, walls, etc.). Autoclickers are more insignificant programs as they are simply used for AFK-ing. If a punishment is warranted for my ignorance, then I'm all for it, and I'm not one for arguing with staff because they're upholding the integrity of the server. However, I do not believe afk mining calls for a week ban. I believe Zeus could've just warned me, and then I learn my lesson, no more autoclicker, good to know. But to ban me for a week? That seems a tad bit extreme. I've looked through the forums and can't find anything about autoclickers besides a post from 2016 where a manager quotes and plus +supports a reply that mentions the use of an autoclicker.
If I'm in the wrong then I'm wrong, but this is pretty small-scale, and I feel a warn would've sufficed if autoclickers are really that bad.

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The only time auto-clickers we’re used before mining is for melee weapons, so rules around them are loose. However auto clickers are third party and that’s the punishment for it. My point is that the third party rule is more tuned for harsher things like aim bot or such, and not something small like auto clickers. I think you should get a warning instead 

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9 minutes ago, Stage said:

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The only time auto-clickers we’re used before mining is for melee weapons, so rules around them are loose. However auto clickers are third party and that’s the punishment for it. My point is that the third party rule is more tuned for harsher things like aim bot or such, and not something small like auto clickers. I think you should get a warning instead 

didn't realize they were outlawed at all, and honestly don't think they should be. also melees have an inherent downtime between swipes so how does that even work

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I dont understand why you got banned for a week, it could have been a day just so you know and understand why not.

I could be wrong in a way but thats just my opinion

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You used a third party software to give yourself a unfair advantage. Autoclickers are prohibited from the server and you should know that since you have 4-5 weeks on.

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The reasons to why external programs are banned is for the unfair advantage it poses. Not only does an auto clicker follow the guidelines as being an external program it gives you a boat load of money for virtually doing nothing but being AFK. The reason to why anomalous ore was put under the water in the first place was for auto clickers to no be used. 
I feel like this should have been self explanatory but I guess it isn't.
You have more than 5 weeks on the server and I would have expected you to know that Autoclickers (being an external program) are prohibited and will result in a punishment for going against the MOTD.
 

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5 minutes ago, Dect said:

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The reasons to why external programs are banned is for the unfair advantage it poses. Not only does an auto clicker follow the guidelines as being an external program it gives you a boat load of money for virtually doing nothing but being AFK. The reason to why anomalous ore was put under the water in the first place was for auto clickers to no be used. 
I feel like this should have been self explanatory but I guess it isn't.
You have more than 5 weeks on the server and I would have expected you to know that Autoclickers (being an external program) are prohibited and will result in a punishment for going against the MOTD.
 

I really didn't though, unfortunately. Also mining has an inventory cap at 30, so you can't actually farm money from it, I just like seeing the XP go up. And even if you could, money isn't particularly important in the server since everything is relatively cheap. There are no obvious advantages to having a lot of money in the server (seriously the most expensive item in the armory is $10k, which I make tenfold from AFK-ing on my CC every night.) If I wanted money, I'd AFK on my CC or just gamble. 

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For using an auto clicker, a 1 week ban is to much of a punishment IMO. If he were to be using a Script or Walls sure the 1 week ban would've been justifiable (more or less). Besides he didn't cause any harm for using an auto-clicker if anything he should've been warned.

Furthermore, even I didn't know that auto-clickers are not permitted as I don't count it as it being "unfair advantage" and I have 7 weeks on the server.

This is actually news to me.

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1 hour ago, Oxteru said:

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For using an auto clicker, a 1 week ban is to much of a punishment IMO. If he were to be using a Script or Walls sure the 1 week ban would've been justifiable (more or less). Besides he didn't cause any harm for using an auto-clicker if anything he should've been warned.

Furthermore, even I didn't know that auto-clickers are not permitted as I don't count it as it being "unfair advantage" and I have 7 weeks on the server.

This is actually news to me.

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as well as me in fact I was told auto clicker's WERE aloud so this is weird and 1 week come on 

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The use of autoclickers is kinda shaky, in some situations they are violating the MOTD (Using them to get out of cuffs, shoot faster, etc.) but in the situation you were in I do not think it was used to gain an unfair advantage. AFK'ing while mining doesn't give you to much of an advantage due to inventory caps and you mine at the same speed as someone just spamming M1.

So that's a +Support for me



It would also be nice to get clarification from SMT about whether Autoclickers are allowed for things like this or not.

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2 hours ago, General bacon said:

-support

You used a third party software to give yourself a unfair advantage. Autoclickers are prohibited from the server and you should know that since you have 4-5 weeks on.

 

14 minutes ago, [GL] Inaccurate said:

The use of autoclickers is kinda shaky, in some situations they are violating the MOTD (Using them to get out of cuffs, shoot faster, etc.) but in the situation you were in I do not think it was used to gain an unfair advantage. AFK'ing while mining doesn't give you to much of an advantage due to inventory caps and you mine at the same speed as someone just spamming M1.

So that's a +Support for me



It would also be nice to get clarification from SMT about whether Autoclickers are allowed for things like this or not.

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1 hour ago, [GL] Inaccurate said:

The use of autoclickers is kinda shaky, in some situations they are violating the MOTD (Using them to get out of cuffs, shoot faster, etc.) but in the situation you were in I do not think it was used to gain an unfair advantage. AFK'ing while mining doesn't give you to much of an advantage due to inventory caps and you mine at the same speed as someone just spamming M1.

So that's a +Support for me
 

 

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6 hours ago, General bacon said:

-support

You used a third party software to give yourself a unfair advantage. Autoclickers are prohibited from the server and you should know that since you have 4-5 weeks on.

I made sure to consult with Rookieblue and issued the ban. This was brought to my attention only when a Sarkic tried to cuff you and you instantly broke out of cuffs. 
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6 minutes ago, [GL] Zeus said:

I made sure to consult with Rookieblue and issued the ban. This was brought to my attention only when a Sarkic tried to cuff you and you instantly broke out of cuffs. 
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Aren't cuffs notorious on the server for being weird and buggy? Some cuffs are impossible to escape whilst others are really easy?  There's really nothing I can say to make this specific claim less suspicious considering we're talking about autoclickers, but I just spammed enter and left click at the same time. After spending so much money on the server, I really wouldn't the abuse of an autoclicker like that at the risk of, well what's already happening right now.

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While I don't think autoclicker is too bad, you were also talking about grooming underage kids in ooc during off hours and shit.

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9 hours ago, General bacon said:

-support

You used a third party software to give yourself a unfair advantage. Autoclickers are prohibited from the server and you should know that since you have 4-5 weeks on.

 

6 hours ago, Rangiatea said:

*No*

Thing below is something you should report 

1 hour ago, Loaff said:

-support

While I don't think autoclicker is too bad, you were also talking about grooming underage kids in ooc during off hours and shit.

 

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4 minutes ago, Propane said:

 

Thing below is something you should report 

 

I don't have any screenshots as proof though.

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4 hours ago, [GL] Zeus said:

I made sure to consult with Rookieblue and issued the ban. This was brought to my attention only when a Sarkic tried to cuff you and you instantly broke out of cuffs. 
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This wasn't giving people a "Unfair advantage" it was simply just using a auto clicker to mine. That's pretty much the same as AFK for money. At most he should've gotten a warn. Might as well start banning AFK D-Class for wanting to get cash. 

WHOA, he's trying to get some Iron while he's AFK. Give this man the death sentence, you will be punished for treason.

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47 minutes ago, DooM Guy said:

WHOA, he's trying to get some Iron while he's AFK. Give this man the death sentence, you will be punished for treason.

That’s true, but he violated the rules and we have to be consistent on these rules particularly since it’s a slippery slope. Imagine if it were MRDM, say he killed 9 d-bois who were all AFK, would their status as AFK mean that he can’t be punished for RDM? 

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