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What are you suggesting? - Removing the rule to RC 096 which is "walk behind him and bag him"

How would this change better the server? - It would make it so 096's cant abuse this, I remember a 096 using this rule against me and I was cool about it, but he kept looking at me and not showing his back at all to me which made it impossible to bag him, in lore 096 would not pay attention to anybody, hes blind. I understand that some people just completely ignore this rule, but when it comes to someone know the rule and abusing it, then I find that very frustrating.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - I don't see a disadvantage

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Mostly Foundation Personnel & CI. Make it easier for MTF to RC 096 & easier for CI to capture him. 

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I had some 096’s who’d look at me when I try to bag them, making it really difficult to bag them from behind. Maybe a rule saying when someone is going to bag 096, he has to sit down (hold CRTL)

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18 minutes ago, Propane said:

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Not the problem here i believe, its that if you are nitpicky about the rule 096 cannot be contained if you are not directly behind him.

+Support for a slight rewrite to just get rid of the "behind" part, but keep the bagging ofcourse.

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2 minutes ago, CinaedeInvictus said:

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If the bagging method of recontaining 096 was removed then it would be too easy for 096 to be recontained.

That ship has been sailed.

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Recently ive seen a few 096s doing this where they just flip around to look at the people so they cant be RCd

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On 10/9/2020 at 6:58 AM, Phillers said:

Not the problem here i believe, its that if you are nitpicky about the rule 096 cannot be contained if you are not directly behind him.

+Support for a slight rewrite to just get rid of the "behind" part, but keep the bagging ofcourse.

 

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On 10/10/2020 at 11:17 AM, Kumandant said:

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The “walk behind him” rule has been subject as a disgusting example of certain people twisting the rules words to gain an unfair advantage, and to get people who try to bag them in trouble.

 

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On 10/9/2020 at 3:58 AM, Phillers said:

Not the problem here i believe, its that if you are nitpicky about the rule 096 cannot be contained if you are not directly behind him.

+Support for a slight rewrite to just get rid of the "behind" part, but keep the bagging ofcourse.

 

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- Throughout my time there have been some 096's that jsut go into a corner and has it back facing it. Making it not possible to recontain them. 

 

On 10/9/2020 at 11:13 AM, CinaedeInvictus said:

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If the bagging method of recontaining 096 was removed then it would be too easy for 096 to be recontained.

Also, They have to roll to bag him so its not really changing much. It could be that he gets a +10 on rolling to balance it out. 

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-support 096 is already EXTREAMLY easy to recontain idk why even make it even more easy its like saying make it only 1 gun to recontain 049  096 only has that plan to help him also it never works if you just look at the floor and walk towards him which you should be doing  anyway there is no reason for you to walk towards him facing his face anyway even if his looking the other way i think he can sense it lore wise because if someone looks at his picture he enrage or anything releated to it he enrages without even knowing they looked at his face i think he has an ability to sense it or something if 096 cant turn back or walk backwards  you can easily easily counter it

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10 hours ago, Tweety said:

-support 096 is already EXTREAMLY easy to recontain idk why even make it even more easy its like saying make it only 1 gun to recontain 049  096 only has that plan to help him also it never works if you just look at the floor and walk towards him which you should be doing  anyway there is no reason for you to walk towards him facing his face anyway even if his looking the other way i think he can sense it lore wise because if someone looks at his picture he enrage or anything related to it he enrages without even knowing they looked at his face i think he has an ability to sense it or something if 096 cant turn back or walk backwards  you can easily easily counter it

 

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How about you make it 1 person to recontain 173 and 1 gun to recontain 049  ? you might as well make 682 tranqable at 5500 maybe nerf 966 to 200 hp? oh make it that 939 cant attack alt walking people no maybe increase 106 cooldown to 3 minutes  you said make it easier for MTF to recontain him it only takes 1 person to recontain 096 -_- and usually there is over 15 MTF half of them surrunding him DON'T forget that security can also recontain him so he is a joke already including 173 and 049 think about the SCPs too please ;-;

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Addendum to my previous response. 

Reclently yesterday i met someone who litteraly faced us whenever we tried to bag him. Saying "Oh you can't bag me gotta be behind me"
 

I believe this needs to be added.

 

Although, i believe that these rules should be added.

- Where 096 has to be drained to a certain ammount of hp before it can be bagged. So its similar to 939 and 682

 

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I made this suggestion due to the fact people like to abuse this rule, also again most people don't even follow this rule to begin with. When a 096 player figures out this rule they just abuse it from my encounters by not turning there backs to me which in lore 096 would not pay attention to me at all. 

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On 10/9/2020 at 3:58 AM, Phillers said:

Not the problem here i believe, its that if you are nitpicky about the rule 096 cannot be contained if you are not directly behind him.

+Support for a slight rewrite to just get rid of the "behind" part, but keep the bagging ofcourse.

 

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Keep the bagging rule, and remove the "from behind" requirement to avoid petty people who continuously face you.

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On 10/10/2020 at 11:17 AM, Kumandant said:

+Support

The “walk behind him” rule has been subject as a disgusting example of certain people twisting the rules words to gain an unfair advantage, and to get people who try to bag them in trouble.

I 100% agree with Kuma

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On 10/10/2020 at 11:17 AM, Kumandant said:

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The “walk behind him” rule has been subject as a disgusting example of certain people twisting the rules words to gain an unfair advantage, and to get people who try to bag them in trouble.

The amount of times this has been an issue is uncountable.

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+Support to change the rule, not remove it

Ive been worried that this particular aspect of 096 rules could be abused by the 096 player, and this thread confirms my worries.

We'd probably be better off altering the rule slightly to remove the 'behind' phrasing, and just make it so he can be bagged when he's not in a rage state, or something similar

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