BadAim Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 What are you suggesting? - Place a invisible perma prop in the window at both CPs. How would this change better the server? - Would discourage campy behavior and allow non-foundation to get through without brute forcing their way in with 10+ meat shields. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - MTF/SEC wouldn't be able to use it as a strategy to solo a large group of enemies Who would this change mostly benefit? - non-foundation. Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion -An Nu7 medic with a negev was running by each time shooting whoever was cracking then healing, which is extremely hard to counter. Retired Imperial RP Super Admin and Grand General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Yes please, it will be abused hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack (utility one) Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 yea that is just some BS There are gods in Alabama: Jack Daniel's, high school quarterbacks, trucks, big tits, and also Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surge Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 -support , The window is large enough to be shot through 1 Ret MTF Nu7 1LT SFTO Surge| Ret OH2 RRH , Retired SM Gensec | No officer that 24Pounds of plutonium isn't mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) First let me begin with the definition of "Checkpoint": A barrier or manned entrance, typically at a border, where travelers are subject to security checks. This would specifically fall as a "Military Checkpoint": Place where military police check vehicular or pedestrian traffic in order to enforce circulation control measures and other laws, orders, and regulations. What is the purpose of a military checkpoint; A military checkpoint is a permanent feature where access by civilian visitors and vehicles will be controlled by a military authority, such as at a point of entry to a restricted or secured area, or a checkpoint on a public highway within areas under military or paramilitary supervision. The entire point of a checkpoint is for people to be there at all times, in this case "OMI9", which they aren't because the branch is struggling with activity problems. The new GOI has an RPG which they can shoot through the CP window and completely devastate the personnel inside mandating the checkpoint, along with grenades. Other counters to these checkpoints are utilizing "Riot Shields" and or smoke/flash grenades so that they can buy time for the one who's keypad cracking the level 3 door to allow his GOI to storm in the CP. The same angles available to you inside the CP are also available outside the checkpoint (except for the outside corner) making it fair for combat, and if you're inside the CP most of the time you'll have to fall back to at least the second window because you'll get eradicated by the hostiles at the windows so it's nothing that is busted. D-Class already have an easy enough time breaking out of LCZ, making it constant chaos through and through and MTF have to stretch their personnel just to deal with them while GENSEC picks themselves back up. In any case like I previously stated beforehand, there's almost no one mandating these checkpoints because OMI9 is currently struggling with activity and so that being the case the CP's aren't that much of an issue for D-Class even, because if I remember correctly, yesterday they were in EZ/HCZ/LCZ running around and causing total havoc for several hours without being contested, because of their no NLR rule, they outnumber foundation personnel and swarm them. These checkpoints are our last line of defense of creating a little stability in the foundation, and blocking the windows even though there's an equal opportunity for all is ridiculous. If you want to make the gap in the window bigger, so be it, but removing it altogether would defeat the purpose of having a CP. https://gyazo.com/7407a8e6226ae2c50efcc449f4eabfec CI had two riot shields at the window and throwing grenades inside and shooting me inside while covered, I couldn't shoot back because the riot shields were blocked. -1 Edited September 16, 2020 by Kindred Forgot to add my verdict. 1 Former | Nu-7 'Hammer-Down' Lieutenant Colonel | Head of Field Experts | Special Forces: Hammer and Sickle (Commissar Apollo) | ECRS, ERS, EBHM | Interim Head of FTOs Former | Maintenance Adept | MMF JAN 1 (Fabuloso) | Containment Specialist | FTO Former | Special Forces: 'Red Right Hand' OH4 (Kindred) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo/Kaz Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 -Support Dclass can shoot through the gap, as well as people raiding the foundation, so it evens out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 -Support but green The hole goes both ways. Ret. MTF Nu-7 2LT | Professional dipshit | Melancholy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) The thing is though it is impossible to crack through when the person will only peak when you begin cracking through, creating an almost "God Spot". You can move away from a grenade, not like it explodes on impact... Edited September 15, 2020 by Orange 🍊 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Orange said: The thing is though it is impossible to crack through when the person will only peak when you begin cracking through, creating an almost "God Spot". Just chuck a nade in there, problem solved Ret. MTF Nu-7 2LT | Professional dipshit | Melancholy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Kindred said: First let me begin with the definition of "Checkpoint": A barrier or manned entrance, typically at a border, where travelers are subject to security checks. This would specifically fall as a "Military Checkpoint": Place where military police check vehicular or pedestrian traffic in order to enforce circulation control measures and other laws, orders, and regulations. What is the purpose of a military checkpoint; A military checkpoint is a permanent feature where access by civilian visitors and vehicles will be controlled by a military authority, such as at a point of entry to a restricted or secured area, or a checkpoint on a public highway within areas under military or paramilitary supervision. The entire point of a checkpoint is for people to be there at all times, in this case "OMI9", which they aren't because the branch is struggling with activity problems. The new GOI has an RPG which they can shoot through the CP window and completely devastate the personnel inside mandating the checkpoint, along with grenades. Other counters to these checkpoints are utilizing "Riot Shields" and or smoke/flash grenades so that they can buy time for the one who's keypad cracking the level 3 door to allow his GOI to storm in the CP. The same angles available to you inside the CP are also available outside the checkpoint (except for the outside corner) making it fair for combat, and if you're inside the CP most of the time you'll have to fall back to at least the second window because you'll get eradicated by the hostiles at the windows so it's nothing that is busted. D-Class already have an easy enough time breaking out of LCZ, making it constant chaos through and through and MTF have to stretch their personnel just to deal with them while GENSEC picks themselves back up. In any case like I previously stated beforehand, there's almost no one mandating these checkpoints because OMI9 is currently struggling with activity and so that being the case the CP's aren't that much of an issue for D-Class even, because if I remember correctly, yesterday they were in EZ/HCZ/LCZ running around and causing total havoc for several hours without being contested, because of their no NLR rule, they outnumber foundation personnel and swarm them. These checkpoints are our last line of defense of creating a little stability in the foundation, and blocking the windows even though there's an equal opportunity for all is ridiculous. If you want to make the gap in the window bigger, so be it, but removing it altogether would defeat the purpose of having a CP. -1 Its good and bad for each side. If foundation are camping there they can shoot out but D-Class can shoot in. [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelatedPancakes Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Orange said: The thing is though it is impossible to crack through when the person will only peak when you begin cracking through, creating an almost "God Spot". You can move away from a grenade, not like it explodes on impact... 100% agree with orange on this one, this window hurts GOI/D-Class way more than it hurts foundation 1 Current : Former : Nu7 COL, HSU Founder (I wrote the SOP so I'm very important clearly), Nu7 MAJ x 2, E11 2LT, SCP Senior Mod, TTT SA, JvS Admin, TS Support 3, HSU Commissar (), RRH Guardian 01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) +support Impossible to crack with a single guy with a pistol and medkit Edited September 16, 2020 by Propane I'm dumb lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAim Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Kindred said: removing it altogether would defeat the purpose of having a CP. How A window gives you at least 15 seconds to either fall back, call for backup, or push the enemies. The only thing this takes is the ability to "hit and run" whoever is cracking. DM me at BadAim#0972 if you wanna talk about this more pls Edited September 16, 2020 by BadAim Retired Imperial RP Super Admin and Grand General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 + support yeah I tried raiding and guess what 4 Nu7 were hiding behind the glass and we couldn't get through cause everytime we tried to crack the door they all peak and shoot the living shit out of the guy cracking SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kumandant Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 -Support I believe only the hole in the checkpoint’s window can be shot through, which seems pretty easy to block or restrict with suppressive fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icee jay Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 +support must keep balance The old E11 CMDR Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixalgamer99 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 +support the people manning it always come out on top 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 +support Not sure why the area exists if not for this very reason. If so, it's annoyingly unfair that there can be people stationed there at all times. From a d-class perspective, I know it's not supposed to be easy to escape. From a C.I. perspective, it's annoying to have a guarantee call out at a CP. Even if you try to do a stealthy Infil raid, they can just call out "THERMALS CP OPENED ON ITS OWN!" It just diminishes our chances of actually getting to D-block undetected at all. If you can't shoot through the gap, there's no incentive to stay there strategically. Which reduces "camping". CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, pixalgamer99 said: +support the people manning it always come out on top People here are forgetting the point that if you are playing as a mtf you only have to focus the personnel who is trying to crack the checkpoint... Meaning i can peak that window and slowly but surely kill the person cracking while moving around and dodging the ppl trying to kill me on the outside. While i keep CI/Dclass busy i can also in TS call for backup and have the whole foundation at that checkpoint in less than 2-3mins +Support Edited September 17, 2020 by 💖Coltable💖 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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