October Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 What you want to see? - I would like to see the demolition expert get nerfed. Why should we add it? - I’m a CI CPT and my job has 175 health and 150 armor. The nitro has the ability to 1 shot me. When I’m raiding, demo experts have the ability to wipe us out with no way of truly defending ourselves from it. What are the advantages of having this? - Making it more fair for CI. Who is it mainly for? - CI Links to any content - Not applicable Extra: I’m also in support of propane’s suggestion, and believe that if mine is accepted so should his. I was on the same raid where the demo expert had 10 hp left. That’s not fair at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) -Support The Demo Expert only has one of everything, then he's useless. Not to mention the Nitro has the ability to one shot the user itself, and also the Demo only has 125/100, making it easier to kill than the Explosive Specialist ironically. Also also, the Demo Expert isn't used much so its not so big of a problem that it needs nerfing, and even so, CI are very much capable of killing the Demo Expert itself. This just sounds like a case of 'CI died to something that matches it in terms of combat so lets nerf it'. Edited April 15, 2020 by Gunther Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Gunther said: -Support The Demo Expert only has one of everything, then he's useless. Not to mention the Nitro has the ability to one shot the user itself, and also the Demo only has 125/100, making it easier to kill than the Explosive Specialist ironically. Also also, the Demo Expert isn't used much so its not so big of a problem that it needs nerfing, and even so, CI are very much capable of killing the Demo Expert itself. This just sounds like a case of 'CI died to something that matches it in terms of combat so lets nerf it'. The reason for this is because CI stand no chance. There isn’t that much of an equal combat level because with 1 nitro they can take out 5 of us. That’s my argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Dtscalice Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) On this i would like to say a paragraph so here we go I believe that the demo expert should not be nerfed as there are only about 2 slots and nobody is ever on it so as gunther said CI could easily kill the Demo expert before they threw the nitro and the nitro isnt too fast i believe so you could back away or close a door on them and not take damage while the demo expert only has one nitro and after utilizing all of their explosives they are near useless. I have played on demo expert and have had CI kill me before i could even throw the nitro as i am not trying to start a fight but if theres a demo expert nearby why would you let five people group together? Continuing the fact is that demo expert have lower HP than you and coordination with other CI members can easily deal with the demo expert problem so i would have to agree with gunther since Demo expert doesnt need a nerf -Support Edited April 15, 2020 by [GL] Dtscalice Truth is just a matter of perspective. The duty of every soldier is to protect the innocent ~Captain Price (Modern Warfare 2) Former CMD Positions: E11 1LT, Medical Chief Manager, CI LT and SRIC, Alpha 1 CPL, RRH Squad Lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakub Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 -support demo expert is not op at all, they have 1 nitro which takes ages to pull out and throw so its easy to counter, and 3 slams which can't be used quickly meaning you know what your going to run into since you can see them placed before they explode, 2 slots and the low stats it has keeps it balanced. Ex E11 COL, Ex A1 MAJ, Ex AHOTS, Ex Security 2LT, Ex Admin. Current CI 2LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheeReaper Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 +Support I understand the job is for donator's, but if their able to beat delta CMD that easily then it should certainly be nerfed. Or possibly have the Nitro Glycerin removed. We may be pay to win in some area's, but shouldn't be in all area's. No one Remembers me ~ AHOT Reaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 +support for a nitro nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Gunther said: -Support The Demo Expert only has one of everything, then he's useless. Not to mention the Nitro has the ability to one shot the user itself, and also the Demo only has 125/100, making it easier to kill than the Explosive Specialist ironically. Also also, the Demo Expert isn't used much so its not so big of a problem that it needs nerfing, and even so, CI are very much capable of killing the Demo Expert itself. This just sounds like a case of 'CI died to something that matches it in terms of combat so lets nerf it'. This just seems unnecessary, and is turning into a CI be MTF thing now. We shouldn’t be nerfing a class that you have to buy cause some other branch doesn’t have a class that can do that. It already has insanely low stats, and it’s balanced at present -Support Edited April 16, 2020 by [GL] Zeus Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/15/2020 at 7:21 PM, [GL] Zeus said: This just seems unnecessary, and is turning into a CI be MTF thing now. any time CI ask for stuff to get nerf or gets a buff to turns into a fight, which is fine, just means I have to talk to some branch leaders You don't have to be the best, you just got to be better than dip shit over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bread Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) Most CI will +support this and most MTF will -support this, Its one-sided for any combat related suggestions at this point. Edited April 19, 2020 by Bread lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Alpha_ Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 -support Its very weak, it serves as a glass cannon mostly. Shouldn't be a issue to dispatch at all. Former DHOS Current GENSEC LTCOL - Deputy Head Juggernaut - HIRU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gh0pit Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Didn't i just write a long reply to one of these? Go check it out. -support Retired CMDR of Epsilon-11 D-Class Main/CI gang/RHO 36 Detective ~You say stop it, I say Gh0pit~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggo0 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, ReZVoRtEx24 said: Look I understand the frustration of this. I have been on both sides and I understand how some think it is weak and some think it is strong. I agree with lowering HP and Armor. What I DON'T agree with is the fact that you guys say you cant defend against it. We have to set the Nitro/C4 to a 10 second+ timer and no less than 10 seconds. It gives you so much time to runaway that sometimes I don't even want to play on the job because it is useless. CI have made perfectly valid arguments and I agree with it 100% of the way! 150HP and 150AP is perfect. We don't have to start arguments over people just STATING their opinion. That's just what I have to say. This suggestion is about the MTF job pack demo expert, which has 125 HP 100 Armor (If I remember correctly). SCPRP Director of Logistics, Event Team | Former Nu7 2LT, Former Senior Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Oops my bad but yeah i will +Support it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a frog Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 +/- support I mean it can be a bitch to fight with 6 explosive specialist and 2 demo experts but this isnt about the specialist and the demo can be very hard but i do agree that if they miss they can and will take a l especially if they aim it to far down and you know slams arent even that hard to avoid since you know lazer in air makes it very easy to see E11 1LT []FORMER CI MAJOR[]Former MTF OMICRON-9 CAPTAIN[]Former Janitorial Low Command[]Former E11 HCMD[Former overseer of D4,Former experimental, Former E4]"The fuck is a ethics committee?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 1:33 AM, _Alpha_ said: Its very weak, it serves as a glass cannon mostly. Shouldn't be a issue to dispatch at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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