Ender Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) Your In-game: Ender Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:456031274 The admin's name in-game: ReaperLite The admin's steam name (If you know it): N/A What warning did you receive: RDM Evidence of the warn (REQUIRED): https://gaminglight.com/bans/player/76561198872328277 Why do you think this warn was false: I was driving the President around and Protecting him because of me and MAJ Adams. No SS or FBI was on, some and Adams decided to protect him. There was a UMC Car following me for a good duration, knowing the history of UMC in my present life I considered them dangerous to myself and the President. After they attempted to interrupt the 'convoy' and continued to follow us I decided to stop and which the UMC also did and opened fire. In my advert, it says, " Presidential Convoy - Interuptions AOS/KOS" UMC was attempting and did interrupt the convoy and like I said their history isn't friendly. After multiple attempts by me to avoid them, I opened fire due to the situation and adverting. I was brought a while after by ReaperLite and Jayden, who showed me a video of me killing him after he was following and attempted to interrupt. To sum up, I killed him because he was following the President and attempted to interrupt multiple times along with UMC history in my current life I decided to Protect the President and eliminate the threat. I hope you understand everything I said and thank you for looking over this. Any extra information: If @Jayden could link the video that would give more detail. Edited November 7, 2019 by EnderKnight57 Ender | Former SWAT Lieutenant | Senior Low Command | SWAT FTO | Previous PoliceRP Administrator COL Will 1L52 to admins: Max, you ain't going to scare them, you are on a female model and stuttering... "So what're you doing?" - @SWAT LT Ender 22-D "Putting my clothes back on". - @SWAT SFC Nao 27-D "There's a fine line between right and wrong. And somewhere, in the shadows, they've sent us to find it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 +support I can say that I was on EMS at the time, Ender was hitting that KOS/AOS advert like it was a whackamole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayden Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSJfVBoLtfg&feature=youtu.be -Support First, I would like to clarify that my physgun grab on the President was accidental, because Ender's first response to having been shown the evidence was that I was abusing staff powers. He went straight to accusing me. But anyway, from my point of view, I did absolutely nothing wrong here. It is not as if I am constantly ramming the vehicle. There is plenty of distance and I am unarmed while driving. They immediately start to open fire on me, blow up my vehicle, and even after having exited the vehicle I still was being shot at, without me even attempting to pull my gun out. Your advert claims "[Advert] Moderator| SPMD SNRP Ender 1M10: Presidential Convoy - Interuptions AOS/KOS". I don't believe you even had the right to shoot me. Even if you did shoot, the better alternative would have been a taze (AOS), but that didn't happen at all. You took an innocent life for simply following your vehicle, having a criminal history, exiting the vehicle once, and stopping when you did. That isn’t enough to take an innocent life when AOS is the clear option in the situation. Edited November 7, 2019 by Jayden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Jayden said: First, I would like to clarify that my physgun grab on the President was accidental, because Ender's first response to having been shown the evidence was that I was abusing staff powers. He went straight to accusing me. I asked if you were or possibly did, I did not accuse you. Ender | Former SWAT Lieutenant | Senior Low Command | SWAT FTO | Previous PoliceRP Administrator COL Will 1L52 to admins: Max, you ain't going to scare them, you are on a female model and stuttering... "So what're you doing?" - @SWAT LT Ender 22-D "Putting my clothes back on". - @SWAT SFC Nao 27-D "There's a fine line between right and wrong. And somewhere, in the shadows, they've sent us to find it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayden Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, EnderKnight57 said: I asked if you were or possibly did, I did not accuse you. Your first response was that your problem was that I was abusing my power and I explained to you that it was an accident. If you clearly saw me grab him why would you ask? I don't intend to argue on forums so I'm just stating what I heard. Edited November 7, 2019 by Jayden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) From the video evidence given to me it was RDM. He got out the car no gun he didnt make contact with the car in the video I went of what I seen and what I seen was RDM. Edited November 7, 2019 by ReaperLite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Admin [GL] Mikey Posted November 7, 2019 Head Admin Share Posted November 7, 2019 -Support the video provided shows RDM You know who I am, unless you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, [GL] Mikey said: -Support the video provided shows RDM I understand from the video POV but everything that leads up to that affected it as I stated. Ender | Former SWAT Lieutenant | Senior Low Command | SWAT FTO | Previous PoliceRP Administrator COL Will 1L52 to admins: Max, you ain't going to scare them, you are on a female model and stuttering... "So what're you doing?" - @SWAT LT Ender 22-D "Putting my clothes back on". - @SWAT SFC Nao 27-D "There's a fine line between right and wrong. And somewhere, in the shadows, they've sent us to find it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sion Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 +support He rammed the charge and was a direct threat seeing how he kept following the main car. Adverts did say 'KOS' so 'you may see my struggle, but you won't see me quit' 'Success depends on the second letter' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) He didnt ram the charger and that charger is not the president escort. And you cannot kos anyone for that reason. Has to be directly contacted on the convoy. And when he got out no gun and got shot that's Plain RDM fron my POV. and if the charger was apart of the convoy that's not allowed Pd cant guard the president. He was even running with no gun for awhile and still being shot at. Edited November 7, 2019 by ReaperLite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayden Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Sion said: +support He rammed the charge and was a direct threat seeing how he kept following the main car. Adverts did say 'KOS' so That charger was abandoned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 BTW, If I may add align with everything else, you did “drift”, stop and get out of the car and kinda walk towards my car at the cabin. Which made me think you were even more of a threat. Ender | Former SWAT Lieutenant | Senior Low Command | SWAT FTO | Previous PoliceRP Administrator COL Will 1L52 to admins: Max, you ain't going to scare them, you are on a female model and stuttering... "So what're you doing?" - @SWAT LT Ender 22-D "Putting my clothes back on". - @SWAT SFC Nao 27-D "There's a fine line between right and wrong. And somewhere, in the shadows, they've sent us to find it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Take this into private messages :)! Thanks, only +\- Supports please. 1 Gaminglight PoliceRP Retired Superadmin “Genius is one percent inspiration, ninety-nine percent perspiration.” “There are no shortcuts to any place worth going.” “You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammy Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Sion said: +support He rammed the charge and was a direct threat seeing how he kept following the main car. Adverts did say 'KOS' so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jametown2004 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) +Support the video shows him following the president. in prodicale we can do anything to protect the president if we feel he is at risk. Ender was following prodicale because the UMC is on a wack list and the car is marked with UMC so he is allowed to open fire if he follows the convoy for a long period of time. Edited November 7, 2019 by Jametown2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy James Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 -Support Based on the evidence provided this shows RDM. Jayden never made any direct threat to your life or the presidents. He never had a gun out and hit an abandoned car then you opened fire on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpo Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 +support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yobo Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 3:07 PM, Jayden said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSJfVBoLtfg&feature=youtu.be -Support First, I would like to clarify that my physgun grab on the President was accidental, because Ender's first response to having been shown the evidence was that I was abusing staff powers. He went straight to accusing me. But anyway, from my point of view, I did absolutely nothing wrong here. It is not as if I am constantly ramming the vehicle. There is plenty of distance and I am unarmed while driving. They immediately start to open fire on me, blow up my vehicle, and even after having exited the vehicle I still was being shot at, without me even attempting to pull my gun out. Your advert claims "[Advert] Moderator| SPMD SNRP Ender 1M10: Presidential Convoy - Interuptions AOS/KOS". I don't believe you even had the right to shoot me. Even if you did shoot, the better alternative would have been a taze (AOS), but that didn't happen at all. You took an innocent life for simply following your vehicle, having a criminal history, exiting the vehicle once, and stopping when you did. That isn’t enough to take an innocent life when AOS is the clear option in the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torty Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 12:59 AM, Sion said: +support He rammed the charge and was a direct threat seeing how he kept following the main car. Adverts did say 'KOS' so "I feel i should say something profound, like one small step for man; All that i think of to say, is i feel like i have waited for this day for centuries"-Harrison Wells "You where good son, real good; Maybe even the best."-TF2 | Military RP Spetznaz1st LT United States Sergeant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burboon boi Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 8:42 PM, [GL] Mikey said: -Support the video provided shows RDM Many of you do not know me, some of y'all do-ICON SCU DEPUTY COMMANDER,PD CPT,EMS,DELTA SQUAD,TROOPER,FBI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head of Staff Will Posted November 11, 2019 Head of Staff Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 1:45 PM, Jimmy James said: -Support Based on the evidence provided this shows RDM. Jayden never made any direct threat to your life or the presidents. He never had a gun out and hit an abandoned car then you opened fire on him. While the video did show RDM in my mind, I do also think that this is also false. I couldn't see any adverts that said KOS (could have been the resolution I was watching at), but with out any other context or evidence, I will have to -Support this. Sorry Ender, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Yachty Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 -Support Adverts don't excuse roleplay in the advert it says "AOS/KOS" for a reason, If someone approaches the presidential convoy unarmed and is showing no real hostile intent (Threats, Gun out, ETC) you should arrest the person. And in the video evidence provided there was no immediate threat to the president. Alternatively if you truly thought the president was in danger you should have returned him to his chambers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assault Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 10:42 PM, [GL] Mikey said: -Support the video provided shows RDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych0 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Not a staff on policeRP but that looks like an interrupt you grabbing may or may not count as an interrupt a few staff are in this group so they could be very biased in that it shows you going to pick up the president even though that happens to everyone when you ran up to the president the way you did it could've looked like you were gonna attack it looked like a better safe then sorry thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Naked Cat Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 -Support Should've sent a vehicle to follow Jayden and stop him(Secret Service protocol). If he were to run and keep following the convoy then there would be a chance to open fire if deemed necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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