ZJ Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) What are you suggesting? - The trench knife damage be reduced to 50 damage a hit. How would this change better the server? - Security won't get continually killed by a non-crafted weapon that does 100 dmg a shot. I think since the item isn't crafted they get several of them with NO nlr make it a OP weapon in its current state. I'd like to state that another reason it is OP is you only have to peak a corner quickly to hit someone with one and then go back into cover. This causes it to be harder to detect where it is coming from as well as it being mostly silent when used. Unlike most weapons that require you to be out of cover to hit someone for the entire duration of firing.Since nobody seems to be reading my reply we tested this. If you stand up on the fence they go through, as well as the Lounge area Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Dclass will likely complain about it. Who would this change mostly benefit? - Security and the facility in general. Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - N/A Edited January 18, 2022 by ZJ 1 | SEC Armored Shield 1LT Wardens WC DHFTO | SVFTO Elite Medic | SVFTO Maintenance Expert | Xray 42 | E11 CPL | Nu7 CPL | D5 PVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrshafer Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 +support Current Ranks Chaos Insurgency CMDR Jrshafer | Security 2LT | Assistant Chief of EMS Former Ranks! Former Alpha-1 Captain Former Physician Former Deputy Head of Security Armored Shield Former Member of the Community Blacklist Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 -Support on 50, halving a weapon's damage would majorly upset the balance +Support on 80 or something like that Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fryingpan36 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaming Goat Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just now, [GL] Fryingpan36 said: -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofWill Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 -Support Thats a 50% damage nerf. Although, d class isn't suppose to be better/balanced to security in any way shape or form, but without d class this server wouldn't be as successful as it is. With this massive nerf d class will be upset a lot, and may make people have no motivation to play as d class. Personally, the trench knife is insanely hard to play and is delayed asf so hitting a shot does take some skill. While I don't think any changes should be made to this weapon, I would be more inclined to be okay with it if it was something like nydekore said like 80. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flixy Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 -Support I swear if another fucking weapon I buy gets nerfed I'm gonna be hella pissed. 1 Nu7 MSGT | Ex CI R&D AIN | Ex Sec 2LT | Ex OS | Ex CI 2LT [CC] Owns: OPIF - Omnipurpose Infantry Force | Charple on Vacation | Vonzen Plushi | CI Take Force 'Blackhawks' [CC] On: Farmer Jakub | MTF Sigma-66 | E-11 Rangers 'Reborn' | TF2 Solider | CI TF2 Heavy | Obama | Lone Wolf | Combine | STARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 -support ehy would it need to be nerfed it is already hard to use and you guys have guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterr Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, [GL] Fryingpan36 said: -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. removed ci general toaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domo775 Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 -support dawg it’s a throwable so it’s not like it’s a guaranteed hit i’ve probably killed you more then once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItzGray Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, [GL] Fryingpan36 said: -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. Current: Former: | RRH Sierra 47 | | E11 LCPL | | MJ | | AR | | Gensec SM | | CI SFC | | CI IA | | M | | Nu7 DHFE Lieutenant Colonel | | HTF A4 Z Viper A4 | | AH1Z Viper | SCP-RP: | Former staff: 6/18/21 -> 11/18/21| | Staff 2x 2/26/22 -> 10/28/22 | | Joined: Apr, 2021~ | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) +support, you can literally throw it through the fences and walls, it also ignores riot shields Also it really isn't that hard to aim you just gotta aim a little ahead of where they moving too, any weapon a dclass has access too shouldn't 4 hit a CC IMO. that being said maybe like 70 or 80 would be more fair, and those that don't want it nerfed cause you paid for it I get it's annoting, but you gotta understand weapons are gonna be nerfed/buffed throughout there time on the server if deemed necessary. Edited January 19, 2022 by Meridian || Retired GenSec || STARS || J04 "Crest" || Foul Tarnished || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZJ Posted January 18, 2022 Author Share Posted January 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, [GL] Fryingpan36 said: -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. If you stand up on the fence they go through, as well as the Lounge area | SEC Armored Shield 1LT Wardens WC DHFTO | SVFTO Elite Medic | SVFTO Maintenance Expert | Xray 42 | E11 CPL | Nu7 CPL | D5 PVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanGuy Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, [GL] Fryingpan36 said: -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. Former CI CPT| Guts | Mexican “I will protect those who cannot protect themselves. ” —Second Ideal of the Windrunners— Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grеg Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 46 minutes ago, [GL] Fryingpan36 said: -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. It is so hard to aim that thing. If someone is crouch jumping you can barely hit them. -Support Ranks: Security SM Greg | RRH Guardian Whiskey 11 Security Logo Designer | Premiere Club | #FreeMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Dice Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, [GL] Fryingpan36 said: -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. Demonically Inspired ..Nu7 CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fryingpan36 Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ZJ said: If you stand up on the fence they go through, as well as the Lounge area 1 hour ago, Meridian said: +suppoet, you can literally throw it through the fences and walls, it also ignores riot shields both of which won't change and are exploits damage has nothing to do with it's exploits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 -Support Its a very difficult weapon to aim requiring precision and muscle memory. It has large burst damage and its riot shield penetration is the main upside it has other than insane burst damage However an 80 wouldn't be too bad, still a lot of people would be fucking pissed The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyClone Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 3 hours ago, [GL] Fryingpan36 said: -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. Retried: CI LTCMDR CI R&D AIN, E11 CPT, and Research Assistant Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yato Sensei Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 - Support for such a hard nerf.+ Support to having the "pass through walls/doors" glitch be fixed. Maybe a small damage nerf to 90? Nothing too major. Joined 09/30/2020Retired 11/12/2022Former Security SFC || Former MTF Omi9 MSGT || Former CI CPT/MAJ || Former Nu7 LTCOL/VCMDR || Former E11 CPL || Former Maintenance Professional || Former D5 CPT || Former Senior Medic || Former Advanced Researcher | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerk Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 17 hours ago, [GL] Fryingpan36 said: -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘮𝘦𝘭𝘭 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘧𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘥, 𝘧𝘢𝘳𝘵𝘦𝘥! 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘥! 𝘈-𝘉 𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘰𝘳 𝘳𝘰𝘭𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘧𝘴 you farted!i f i get banned who cares i've had my fun 49 total warns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisNuts Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Yato Sensei said: - Support for such a hard nerf.+ Support to having the "pass through walls/doors" glitch be fixed. Maybe a small damage nerf to 90? Nothing too major. CI CMDRCC: CI Requiem Squad XH-76 Biggest DMC Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 10 hours ago, Yato Sensei said: - Support for such a hard nerf.+ Support to having the "pass through walls/doors" glitch be fixed. Maybe a small damage nerf to 90? Nothing too major. [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Grayson Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 21 hours ago, [GL] Fryingpan36 said: -support the trench knife only does that much damage because it takes skill to use ALSO it's easy to counter just go behind a fence or just walk side to side. Also most guns do more damage and d class only have 100-150 hp so they're not hard to kill. Gensec have a fence for a reason. bro this would make swinging it even more useless right now swinging it you have a 1/100 chance to hit and throwing it can bug out and not hit massive -support SHOOT THEM EX MAJ In MIL EX A2 In E4 Current VCMDR Of Sarkic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 -Support We're just nerfing every d-class weapon at this point. EX Head Of Staff SCP-RP | CI will forever be in my heart. 1/15/21 - 8/1/22 (CI CMDR Cosmic ITLY) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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