General suggestion - Removing the ethereal from Quartermaster - Denied

[Noah Lee]

9 hours ago, islandtoad said:

-support

there are current guidelines in place so only command can get it

 

4 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support
Because the Barret M82's are 20k in the armory, doesnt mean a sniper job is useless or unspecial.
The only reason everyone has the etheral currently is becuase of the hype around it, give it a week and everyone will be broke and uninterested in buying any more etherals.

 

9 hours ago, islandtoad said:

If the quartermaster sells it to people that aren’t allowed to have it they would be black listed from the job

Also I believe it’s cpt+ in every branch which is a pretty hard rank to get

 

[Demon Dice]

4 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support
Because the Barret M82's are 20k in the armory, doesnt mean a sniper job is useless or unspecial.
The only reason everyone has the etheral currently is becuase of the hype around it, give it a week and everyone will be broke and uninterested in buying any more etherals.

 

[Toasty]

- Support

The Ethereal is a gun that is locked to only SCMD+ on combatant jobs and HCMD+ on non combatants, if anyone is selling the gun to people below the restrictions then they will just get removed from the job since if someone breaks rules on level 100 jobs they just get blacklisted from the jobs. I understand where your coming from but like orange said the gun is new so there is a lot of hype behind it so in a couple weeks you will barely see it around.

[ShadowPL]

7 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support
Because the Barret M82's are 20k in the armory, doesnt mean a sniper job is useless or unspecial.
The only reason everyone has the etheral currently is becuase of the hype around it, give it a week and everyone will be broke and uninterested in buying any more etherals.

 

[[GL] Fryingpan36]

-Support I don't want to be rude but this seems like a get salty make a suggestion problem. I agree with this statement>

7 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support
Because the Barret M82's are 20k in the armory, doesnt mean a sniper job is useless or unspecial.
The only reason everyone has the etheral currently is becuase of the hype around it, give it a week and everyone will be broke and uninterested in buying any more etherals.

 

[Yato Sensei]

- Support

People will eventually stop buying it, you will see. 

[Alexxxx]

10 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support
Because the Barret M82's are 20k in the armory, doesnt mean a sniper job is useless or unspecial.
The only reason everyone has the etheral currently is becuase of the hype around it, give it a week and everyone will be broke and uninterested in buying any more etherals.

Now I do think though that It should be Major+ in Nu7 and not 1LT+. but over all -Support

Edited August 25, 2021 by Alexxx

[NeoID]

Ehh -Support

 

Now I get it. Right now it’s powerful. But it’s meant to be. It’s a Level100 job. Meaning it’s restricted to select active players. Assuming they don’t buy levels. Give it time for people to get a little more bored of it (and broke) 

[Cosmic]

-Support 

Just give this like a few weeks and people who keep buying it to rc scps will become broke. 
Tbh if we really wanted to make both sides happy. Just raise the price on it by a few thousand.
That way the ones who wanna keep it won't be that sad and who want to remove will still have accomplished something.

[FBI-01]

16 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support
Because the Barret M82's are 20k in the armory, doesnt mean a sniper job is useless or unspecial.
The only reason everyone has the etheral currently is becuase of the hype around it, give it a week and everyone will be broke and uninterested in buying any more etherals.

 

[The Apple]

On 8/24/2021 at 1:46 PM, Gamersquadman said:

+Support

This hurts alpha unit and SCP's a lot

SCP's get RC'D way faster with this

Which means less code reds

Which means less alpha units

When alpha unit was first made people wanted it to be rare to see because of the micro but now it does not matter

SCP becomes unplayable when the amount of ethereal increases

If it did not matter that People could get a ethereal on orange then why cant alpha unit go on site on orange

In the end QM having the ethereal hurts SCP's because they get RC'D so fast why play on them and E11 as a whole as E11 can not enter as often.

 

[Sixx]

I personally think it should be atleast SCMD+ In all branches to buy it, but I dont agree with removing it.

[The Gaming Goat]

16 hours ago, Yato Sensei said:

- Support

People will eventually stop buying it, you will see. 

Agreed.

[Normal_Bagel]

-Support 

The whole point of the lvl 100 Jobs it to bring something new. If you remove the Ethereal from QuarterMaster job, it become useless. You could say "But there are weapons on the class that you cant get in armory," that's true although most of the 'weapons' you get on the class are the same if not worse than the ones in armory.

Also Only 38 people (39 if you include Star Step) can buy the Ethereal, you may think that's a lot at first but compared to the 672 people that cant its not that much 
(This includes all of GenSec, Nu7, and E11.)

If you remove the Ethereal from QuarterMaster it would cut all incentive of being on the job, QuarterMaster would just become another lame, tanky, and boring 'Sub Class' that no one wants to get on
 

But hey, if SMT to accept this at least you can buy a Mossberg 25% off.
(But if the QuarterMaster wants to make money it would nullify the discount.)

Edited August 26, 2021 by Normal_Bagel

[Demon Dice]

5 hours ago, Sixx said:

I personally think it should be atleast SCMD+ In all branches to buy it, but I dont agree with removing it.

It is SCMD+ for MTF And Gensec and HCMD for med and maintenance and research 

[Gyara]

+Support

[Beepis]

+support

As much as I would want to wield an ethereal I gotta look at the broad scope of things. If QM has the ability to give out etherals to CPT+ then whats the point of D4 Alpha Unit other than "Beefy D4". 

[IgnisNuts]

On 8/24/2021 at 5:22 PM, Orange said:

-Support
Because the Barret M82's are 20k in the armory, doesnt mean a sniper job is useless or unspecial.
The only reason everyone has the etheral currently is becuase of the hype around it, give it a week and everyone will be broke and uninterested in buying any more etherals.

 

 

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by IgnisNuts

[J0LT]

-support

maybe the raise the price a little more

[a frog]

On 8/26/2021 at 7:02 AM, Beepis said:

+support

As much as I would want to wield an ethereal I gotta look at the broad scope of things. If QM has the ability to give out etherals to CPT+ then whats the point of D4 Alpha Unit other than "Beefy D4". 

Yea honestly I have been keeping quiet on this but tbh I don't get why this job could even spawn ethereal since it defeats the entire purpose of having the d4 alpha unit and just because only a limited number of people can buy it doesn't mean that they should (for example if maintenance, research, and medical hcmd can buy it does it mean they are combatants running in to kill every SCP possible?)

(Also, the quote from orange just because you can buy a sniper doesn't make a sniper job useless or unspecial doesn't apply here since the whole purpose of the alpha unit was to be special and unique since its whole gimmick was it had a micro to contain scps but now since legit 39 people can buy it the alpha unit isn't special or unique and it cants even be played now since people are just running around with micros killing every SCP in like 5 minutes causing  it never to even be code red,(AKA=the one special d4 job for e11 is unplayable))

so yea +support defeats the whole purpose of the e11 alpha unit and should've been discussed with e11 hcmd in the first place since it takes one of our classes main mechanics and just says (oh here you go cpt sir hope you enjoy killing scps on any code)

On 8/24/2021 at 5:22 PM, Orange said:

-Support
Because the Barret M82's are 20k in the armory, doesnt mean a sniper job is useless or unspecial

 

[Nenea Tanti]

On 8/24/2021 at 8:46 PM, Gamersquadman said:

+Support

This hurts alpha unit and SCP's a lot

SCP's get RC'D way faster with this

Which means less code reds

Which means less alpha units

When alpha unit was first made people wanted it to be rare to see because of the micro but now it does not matter

SCP becomes unplayable when the amount of ethereal increases

If it did not matter that People could get a ethereal on orange then why cant alpha unit go on site on orange

In the end QM having the ethereal hurts SCP's because they get RC'D so fast why play on them and E11 as a whole as E11 can not enter as often.

Massive +Support, E-11 HCMD was not consulted about the addition of the Ethereal on the Quartermaster Job which we would not have agreed with to begin with, not only does it make the D4 Alpha Unit job obsolete but we have seen numerous times people under the rank of CPT with the ethereal or just spamm give it to HSU, literally on day 1 Maynard was running around with an ethereal which proves the people on the job cannot be trusted with the power to give around one of the best anti SCP weapons in the game so yes the ethereal should be removed from the quartermaster 

Edited August 27, 2021 by Nenea Tanti

[a frog]

3 minutes ago, Nenea Tanti said:

Massive +Support, E-11 HCMD was not consulted about the addition of the Ethereal on the Quartermaster Job which we would not have agreed with to begin with, not only does it make the D4 Alpha Unit job obsolete but we have seen numerous times people under the rank of CPT with the ethereal or just spamm give it to HSU, literally on day 1 Maynard was running which proves the people on the job cannot be trusted with the power to give around one of the best anti SCP weapons in the game around with an ethereal so yes the ethereal should be removed from the quartermaster 

^ I whole heartedly agree with nenea

Edited August 27, 2021 by frog

[Borshk]

On 8/24/2021 at 1:49 PM, Kieran ♡ said:

SCP's literally can't breach longer than 3 minutes which is annoying. QM's also give all jobs that aren't classed as 'in a branch' I.E the 100+ lvl jobs, Ethereals and apparently thats allowed, No.

 

On 8/24/2021 at 1:46 PM, Gamersquadman said:

+Support

This hurts alpha unit and SCP's a lot

SCP's get RC'D way faster with this

Which means less code reds

Which means less alpha units

When alpha unit was first made people wanted it to be rare to see because of the micro but now it does not matter

SCP becomes unplayable when the amount of ethereal increases

If it did not matter that People could get a ethereal on orange then why cant alpha unit go on site on orange

In the end QM having the ethereal hurts SCP's because they get RC'D so fast why play on them and E11 as a whole as E11 can not enter as often.

 

[Ya Boi Sawrunner]

-support

Then Quartermaster would be a pretty obsolete job. MTF kit is solid generally speaking, and why track down a QM when the armory is right there? Half prices? Meh. 

 

[Cypher]

On 8/24/2021 at 7:46 PM, Gamersquadman said:

+Support

This hurts alpha unit and SCP's a lot

SCP's get RC'D way faster with this

Which means less code reds

Which means less alpha units

When alpha unit was first made people wanted it to be rare to see because of the micro but now it does not matter

SCP becomes unplayable when the amount of ethereal increases

If it did not matter that People could get a ethereal on orange then why cant alpha unit go on site on orange

In the end QM having the ethereal hurts SCP's because they get RC'D so fast why play on them and E11 as a whole as E11 can not enter as often.

 

6 hours ago, Nenea Tanti said:

Massive +Support, E-11 HCMD was not consulted about the addition of the Ethereal on the Quartermaster Job which we would not have agreed with to begin with, not only does it make the D4 Alpha Unit job obsolete but we have seen numerous times people under the rank of CPT with the ethereal or just spamm give it to HSU, literally on day 1 Maynard was running around with an ethereal which proves the people on the job cannot be trusted with the power to give around one of the best anti SCP weapons in the game so yes the ethereal should be removed from the quartermaster 

In all fairness if we came to some sort of agreement over the removal of the Ethereal from the QM that at least something unique, usually not accessible should be added to it's list to compensate for the loss of said weapon, however an increase of price optionally would also do the deal in my opinion.