Popular Post Blazzy Posted July 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) What are you suggesting? - The gun is too op and needs a nerf it does more dmg than the vector and its a smg so it shouldn't do that much. How would this change better the server? - Making it so the weapon isn't as powerful. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - It not doing a lot of dmg. Who would this change mostly benefit? - Class-D and ci. link to op gun video Edited July 2, 2021 by Blazzy 10 1 Former CI 1st LT | Former Head Longshot | Former E4 (D4) Former ma blazzu | Former HLPR Bot aV4 Former SCP-RP Event Team | Former SCP-RP Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxx Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) +Support Yeah, I don't know whos idea it was to get the Mp7 on jobs that get played a lot because it's really strong Edited July 2, 2021 by Alexxx 3 O5   Former: DT CPT , CGO - Tenn Graneet , 31st VCMDR -> Havoc CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarGar Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 (edited) +support The weapon is so powerful it needs a nerf. The TTK is crazy. Edited July 2, 2021 by GarGar 2 Resigned CI CMDR Gar  | Former E11 SGT Gar | RRH Guardian Yankee 42 | Former D5 CPL Gar (one of the first) | A1 Steak Sauce I | Farmer Gar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domo775 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 +support that gun is broken as shit 2 iâve probably killed you more then once  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0LT Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 HOLY YES +SUPPORTeither RPM or DMG because holy shit this thing is messed up  Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx    On:  Alpha-8 |  S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 +/- Support -The damage is a lot and the firing rate is quick, however the accuracy just got majorly nerfed to the point of great difficulty in hip firing. I would gladly say get rid of some of its damage if I was able to aim as TRT again. -This being said, I do believe that this nerf should not be too much. Currently, TRT is one of Nu7's best classes and given the state of Behemoth and our Operative classes, we need some way to give our enlisted a fighting chance against CI. 9 1 6 Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucarioKing Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Alexxx said: +Support Yeah, I don't know whos idea it was to get the Mp7 on jobs that get played a lot because it's really strong  ïžïžïžïžïžïžïžïžđïžÂ | Owner CC: CI TF2 Heavy (without Auger)| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz L0g1c Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 +Support MP7 has really high dmg, high rpm, and a tight spread that is easy to control. It wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't on multiple high pop jobs. Def needs a nerf if the weapon is staying on the jobs.  4 WÌ”ÌœÌ O̶ÌÍ ÌÌ€RÌ·ÌÍÍÌÌŻÍÌÌšK̶ÌÍÍÌÌ§ÌšÍ Ì·ÍÍÌ»ÍHÌ”ÍÌ ÌÌŠÌA̶Ì̜̱RÌ·Í ÌÍÍÍDÌ·ÍÍÌČÌ Ì± ̜̔ÍÌčÌÍÍI̶ÌÌÌÌÍ Ì N̶ÌÌÍ ÌžÌÌÌÌSÌžÍÌÌÌœÌÍÌŻÍIÌ”ÍÍÍÌÌčLÌŽÌÌÌŁÍÌ€Ì E̶ÍÍÌNÌ”ÌÌÌÌÌÌ°ÌCÌžÌÌ̱̌EÌžÌÍÌÍ ÌžÍÍÍÍAÌ”ÍÌÌÌ©N̶ÍÌ©ÌŠDÌ·ÍÍÌČÌŁÌ§ Ì·ÌÌšÌŁÍLÌŽÌÌÌłÌ°ÌąEÌžÍÌÌÌTÌ”ÍÍÌżÌ ÌŽÌÌÍÌÌŻÌ SÌžÍÌÌ ÌŁU̶ÌÌłÌÌčC̶̜ÍÌ©C̶ÌÌÌ©Ì»EÌ·ÌÌÍÍSÌŽÌÍÍÍÍÍSÌžÍÍÌ„ÌÌÌ Ì¶ÍÍÍÌ«Ì©ÌŹMÌ”ÍÍÍÍÌÍAÌ¶ÌŸÌżÌÌŹÌŠKÌŽÌÌšÍ Í ÌEÌŽÍÍÌÌ ÍÌź Ì”Ì ÍÍÌłÌČTÌŽÌÍÍ ÍÍH̶ÌÍÍÌżÌąEÌŽÍÌÌÍÍÌč ÌŽÌÍÌčÌŻÍN̶ÍÍÌÌÌŠOÌžÌÍÌIÌŽÌ Í ÌÌ SÌžÌÍÌÌŒEÌ”Í AÌ”ÍÍÌ ÌÍÌÌ„ÌÌ Í 1Ì”ÍÍÌÌČÌ°ÌąÌŠÌ ÌŽÌÌÍÍÍÌNÌŽÍÌÌšoÌžÌ ÌÌÌÍ ÌÌŠÌŹm̶ÌÌaÌžÍÍÍÍÌ€ÌÌȘÌd̶ÍÌÌ§ÌŁÌŹÍ Ì”ÌÍÌÌŸÍÌ€ÌȘÍIÌŽÌÍÌÌÍÍÍÍÍÌ»ÍÍ / SÌ”ÌÌÌÍ ÍÌÍ̧Ì̧̌TÌ¶ÌżÌÌżÌ ÍÌ«ÌąFÌ·ÌÌ ÌÌÌÍ Ì·ÍÌÌÌŸÌÌÌDÌžÍÍÌŸÍÍÌ°4Ì”ÌÌ ÌÍÍ Ì ÌŒ Ì·ÌÌÌșÍHÌžÌÍÌÌÍÍÍaÌ·ÌÌœÌÍÌÍÍÌŠÌŠdÌ·ÍÍÌšeÌ”ÍÍÍsÌ”ÍÍÌȘÍÌ ÌžÌÌŁÍDÌžÌÌŁI̶ÍÌ©ÍÌÌÌŻ3Ì”ÌÌÌšÌĄÌ©Í Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaming Goat Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Benslaki_II said: HOLY YES +SUPPORTeither RPM or DMG because holy shit this thing is messed up   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWNED Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Benslaki_II said: HOLY YES +SUPPORTeither RPM or DMG because holy shit this thing is messed up   Former E11 1LT/Head Ranger,  Former Event Team/Staff Member| GENSEC SGT Foundation Chef <- me when the quiet guy in D-block begins to reach into his pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanGuy Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 +Support Yeah is too broken but pls don't nerf it until it's useless          Former CI CPT|  Guts | Mexican                                                                                                                                                                                                                            âI will protect those who cannot protect themselves. â                  âSecond Ideal of the Windrunnersâ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The CI Zero Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Benslaki_II said: HOLY YES +SUPPORTeither RPM or DMG because holy shit this thing is messed up   "đđ° đ đąđȘđŻ'đ” đŽđ€đąđłđŠđ„ đ°đ§ đđȘđ·đȘđŻ' 'đđąđ¶đŽđŠ đȘđ”'đŽ đąđđ đžđŠ'đ·đŠ đšđ°đ” đđ©đąđ” đąđłđŠ đžđŠ đŁđłđŠđąđ”đ©đȘđŻ' đ§đ°đł đȘđ§ đžđŠ đąđȘđŻ'đ” đđȘđ·đȘđŻ'?" -Retired CI MAJ Zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] funnyfish0 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Domo775 said: +support that gun is broken as shit  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Lee Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 https://medal.tv/clips/3RHwvx2MY5vRz/27PwbFchTkFxhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHvOr1dTnc9K/x3SvwM8xFn1lhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHw3WgqHQdUj/D3D46YUXOEm8Massive - Support So upon seeing this suggestion, and seeing the video, the recoil is sketch as fuck, so we invited one of our better PVPers that we have in our branch @Smoll so the fist clip linked, is smoll shooting the MP7 on my head and you can see the recoil is very difficult to control, the second clip we attempted to recreate actual battle with a d class or some individual that doesn't wish to die, and you can clearly see the recoil is difficult and it is still rather hard to hit someone, and you may say "oh hes just bad" but this man is up there with kenzo and funkmaster when it comes to combat as d class ETC, but its still insane, the 3rd clip is smoll shooting me full body and fully controlled recoil and it doesn't even remotely match what clip was provided for the recoil. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Dice Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Just now, Noah Lee said: https://medal.tv/clips/3RHwvx2MY5vRz/27PwbFchTkFxhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHvOr1dTnc9K/x3SvwM8xFn1lhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHw3WgqHQdUj/D3D46YUXOEm8Massive - Support So upon seeing this suggestion, and seeing the video, the recoil is sketch as fuck, so we invited one of our better PVPers that we have in our branch @Smoll so the fist clip linked, is smoll shooting the MP7 on my head and you can see the recoil is very difficult to control, the second clip we attempted to recreate actual battle with a d class or some individual that doesn't wish to die, and you can clearly see the recoil is difficult and it is still rather hard to hit someone, and you may say "oh hes just bad" but this man is up there with kenzo and funkmaster when it comes to combat as d class ETC, but its still insane, the 3rd clip is smoll shooting me full body and fully controlled recoil and it doesn't even remotely match what clip was provided for the recoil.  3 Demonically Inspired ..Nu7 CMDR  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WantedIdeas Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Just now, Noah Lee said: https://medal.tv/clips/3RHwvx2MY5vRz/27PwbFchTkFxhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHvOr1dTnc9K/x3SvwM8xFn1lhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHw3WgqHQdUj/D3D46YUXOEm8Massive - Support So upon seeing this suggestion, and seeing the video, the recoil is sketch as fuck, so we invited one of our better PVPers that we have in our branch @Smoll so the fist clip linked, is smoll shooting the MP7 on my head and you can see the recoil is very difficult to control, the second clip we attempted to recreate actual battle with a d class or some individual that doesn't wish to die, and you can clearly see the recoil is difficult and it is still rather hard to hit someone, and you may say "oh hes just bad" but this man is up there with kenzo and funkmaster when it comes to combat as d class ETC, but its still insane, the 3rd clip is smoll shooting me full body and fully controlled recoil and it doesn't even remotely match what clip was provided for the recoil.  4 1 Admin For SCPRP , Vice Commander In Nu-7. Former Major/Head FTO In Omicron-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoll Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Noah Lee said: https://medal.tv/clips/3RHwvx2MY5vRz/27PwbFchTkFxhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHvOr1dTnc9K/x3SvwM8xFn1lhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHw3WgqHQdUj/D3D46YUXOEm8Massive - Support So upon seeing this suggestion, and seeing the video, the recoil is sketch as fuck, so we invited one of our better PVPers that we have in our branch @Smoll so the fist clip linked, is smoll shooting the MP7 on my head and you can see the recoil is very difficult to control, the second clip we attempted to recreate actual battle with a d class or some individual that doesn't wish to die, and you can clearly see the recoil is difficult and it is still rather hard to hit someone, and you may say "oh hes just bad" but this man is up there with kenzo and funkmaster when it comes to combat as d class ETC, but its still insane, the 3rd clip is smoll shooting me full body and fully controlled recoil and it doesn't even remotely match what clip was provided for the recoil. Also if you say im just bad at PVP well your cute Edited July 3, 2021 by Smoll 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Toasty Posted July 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Noah Lee said: https://medal.tv/clips/3RHwvx2MY5vRz/27PwbFchTkFxhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHvOr1dTnc9K/x3SvwM8xFn1lhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHw3WgqHQdUj/D3D46YUXOEm8Massive - Support So upon seeing this suggestion, and seeing the video, the recoil is sketch as fuck, so we invited one of our better PVPers that we have in our branch @Smoll so the fist clip linked, is smoll shooting the MP7 on my head and you can see the recoil is very difficult to control, the second clip we attempted to recreate actual battle with a d class or some individual that doesn't wish to die, and you can clearly see the recoil is difficult and it is still rather hard to hit someone, and you may say "oh hes just bad" but this man is up there with kenzo and funkmaster when it comes to combat as d class ETC, but its still insane, the 3rd clip is smoll shooting me full body and fully controlled recoil and it doesn't even remotely match what clip was provided for the recoil. Me personally the MP7 has a good amount of recoil, I've have tried the gun and when your in combat and doing all the movement that people do during combat the recoil is a big handicap. While the Vector does only have 22 DMG and the MP7 has 30 DMG the Vector has little recoil. To me the DMG on the MP7 makes up for all the recoil it has to balance out the gun. I can see why you would want it nurfed since in the right hands the gun is a monster but the main purpose of TRT is to feed and fight SCPs not CI, the class that is supposed to counter CI is the behemoth class in it has 225 HP and 175 Armor which is a weak class to begin with. I think that instead of us just complaining and nurfing everything we should try and work together to create a balance between the branches because when one major branch starts to die then the server itself will start to hurt. 5 Former: O5-10 "The Mad General" / SCP-RP Head Admin / CI 2LT / Security CPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J0LT Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) Now a reality to the gun being used The recoil doesnt matter, you can kill people in less shots than it takes to kick up Garrys_Mod_2021-07-02_10-28-06_Trim.mp4 4 hours ago, Noah Lee said: https://medal.tv/clips/3RHwvx2MY5vRz/27PwbFchTkFxhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHvOr1dTnc9K/x3SvwM8xFn1lhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHw3WgqHQdUj/D3D46YUXOEm8Massive - Support So upon seeing this suggestion, and seeing the video, the recoil is sketch as fuck, so we invited one of our better PVPers that we have in our branch @Smoll so the fist clip linked, is smoll shooting the MP7 on my head and you can see the recoil is very difficult to control, the second clip we attempted to recreate actual battle with a d class or some individual that doesn't wish to die, and you can clearly see the recoil is difficult and it is still rather hard to hit someone, and you may say "oh hes just bad" but this man is up there with kenzo and funkmaster when it comes to combat as d class ETC, but its still insane, the 3rd clip is smoll shooting me full body and fully controlled recoil and it doesn't even remotely match what clip was provided for the recoil. And this^ The recoil is not the problem, its the TTK being matched with a class that shouldnt worry about recoil, as its always in your face.  Finally, if the class is truly SCP focused. Wouldn't you want a gun you could use from farther away? (As most SCPs kill you when you get close, just saying) if the recoil is truly "uncontrollable" than that is not an effective SCP containing class Edited July 3, 2021 by Benslaki_II Thought of more to write 1 Retired Nu7 CMDR & CI LTCOL/MAJ Senior Admin/Forums dip/Support Supervisor | former the following: HTF/E4 Head | Only Anubis award winner | Former Nu7 HFTO and CI OFTO | Sec MSGT+Pertinax Owns: Omi-9 'Last Remnants' | Farmer Tucker | Farmer Darius XII | Reznov Klushie | Foxx    On:  Alpha-8 |  S.T.A.R.S | Iota-13 'Luxxy's Soldiers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pog0 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Noah Lee said: https://medal.tv/clips/3RHwvx2MY5vRz/27PwbFchTkFxhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHvOr1dTnc9K/x3SvwM8xFn1lhttps://medal.tv/clips/3RHw3WgqHQdUj/D3D46YUXOEm8Massive - Support So upon seeing this suggestion, and seeing the video, the recoil is sketch as fuck, so we invited one of our better PVPers that we have in our branch @Smoll so the fist clip linked, is smoll shooting the MP7 on my head and you can see the recoil is very difficult to control, the second clip we attempted to recreate actual battle with a d class or some individual that doesn't wish to die, and you can clearly see the recoil is difficult and it is still rather hard to hit someone, and you may say "oh hes just bad" but this man is up there with kenzo and funkmaster when it comes to combat as d class ETC, but its still insane, the 3rd clip is smoll shooting me full body and fully controlled recoil and it doesn't even remotely match what clip was provided for the recoil. Massive - Support Gun is already nerfed to the point that people don't play on the job anymore as they used to. The recoil is insane to control and it is impossible to hit someone unless you are REALLY close to them. Furthermore, this nerf can jeopardize the overall activity of the subbranch as it is already at a bad state as a result of the most recent nerf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloaker Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 +Support I believe the weapons damage should be nerfed, from experience I've had against the weapon. Now I've noticed people that use the class say that the recoil makes up for the high RPM and damage. I think I've found the perfect middle grounds, nerf the damage of the MP7 and decrease the recoil. local teenage father :3 Retired: ci ddop cloaker s1mp Ex Senior Moderator Ex Event Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxx Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Pog0 said: Massive - Support Gun is already nerfed to the point that people don't play on the job anymore as they used to. The recoil is insane to control and it is impossible to hit someone unless you are REALLY close to them. Furthermore, this nerf can jeopardize the overall activity of the subbranch as it is already at a bad state as a result of the most recent nerf. Seems like... Mainly Nu7 are against this change. The recoil on the weapon doesn't even matter when It comes to TRT, All they have to do is get in your face and shoot then your just dead and that's not hard with that speed. Now for other jobs it'd be harder, Also I see atleast 2-4 TRT on the job daily I don't know what you mean I doubt that absolutely no one is gonna play on the job anymore because of this change because even without the Mp7 on the job it's a nice job due to the speed. Edited July 3, 2021 by Alexxx 1 1 O5   Former: DT CPT , CGO - Tenn Graneet , 31st VCMDR -> Havoc CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bread Posted July 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) Reduce the recoil to .6 and reduce the damage to 27. That is all that is needed, and I know my stats. Next time, contact me. I can do extensive testing to ensure something isnt too powerful, instead of saying {Nerf gun_name}. Recoil: .8 -> .6 Damage: 30 -> 27 Edited July 3, 2021 by Bread 7 lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarGar Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bread said: Reduce the recoil to .6 and reduce the damage to 27. That is all that is needed, and I know my stats. That's actually pretty decent, I would tweak it a bit but that's fine. Resigned CI CMDR Gar  | Former E11 SGT Gar | RRH Guardian Yankee 42 | Former D5 CPL Gar (one of the first) | A1 Steak Sauce I | Farmer Gar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ternith Plague Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bread said: Reduce the recoil to .6 and reduce the damage to 27. That is all that is needed, and I know my stats. Next time, contact me. I can do extensive testing to ensure something isnt too powerful, instead of saying {Nerf gun_name}. Recoil: .8 -> .6 Damage: 30 -> 27 If this was done, +support ONLY FOR THIS. Author of the OFFICIAL Thing's Rangiatea is not Allowed to do at the Foundation (THRAF) Former SCP-RP Staff, Event Team, Teamspeak Support Member Current Riot Trooper Officer, Stormtrooper Sergeant First Class - ImperialRP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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