General Suggestion - Nerf the Thompson Contender G2 - Denied

[The Apple]

6 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support, 

This would do nothing for the lower classes that die to the gun, only help strong classes, especially MTF presence in D Block, that already survive easily since they can escape and heal.

Would like to add most of the hits to models without limb damage do roughly 95-100 most of the time.

 

Officer has a combined total 150-2*95= still a 2 hit

LCPL has 200-3*95= A 3 hit, but most of the time already it still is a 3 hit.

CPL has 225-3*95= still a 3 hit

New JrNCO has 275-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

New NCO has 300-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

You can do the other jobs but since these are the main jobs that are affected by the gun damage after 3 hits there has been plenty of time to strategize a run to somewhere to heal.

 

 

 

[Yato Sensei]

- Support
Awful idea. Why nerf the gun when its pretty much up to the player? If you are fighting against it, just spam crouch while moving left to right, no one can hit you even if they are one of the best. 

Doesn't security have a sniper class? You know, with an AWP? That weapon is way more consistent and doesn't have to reload after every single shot + it deals more damage and there can be a decent amount of snipers + Nu7 can get called in or E11 could be stationed in front of D block.

Also riot control exists, camp at the purple line and trade shots, you will win 9/10 times unless there is 3 contendors shooting you at the same time.

Edited March 4, 2021 by Yato Sensei

[[GL] Mike]

7 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support, 

This would do nothing for the lower classes that die to the gun, only help strong classes, especially MTF presence in D Block, that already survive easily since they can escape and heal.

Would like to add most of the hits to models without limb damage do roughly 95-100 most of the time.

 

Officer has a combined total 150-2*95= still a 2 hit

LCPL has 200-3*95= A 3 hit, but most of the time already it still is a 3 hit.

CPL has 225-3*95= still a 3 hit

New JrNCO has 275-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

New NCO has 300-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

You can do the other jobs but since these are the main jobs that are affected by the gun damage after 3 hits there has been plenty of time to strategize a run to somewhere to heal.

 

 

 

[The CI Zero]

8 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support, 

This would do nothing for the lower classes that die to the gun, only help strong classes, especially MTF presence in D Block, that already survive easily since they can escape and heal.

Would like to add most of the hits to models without limb damage do roughly 95-100 most of the time.

 

Officer has a combined total 150-2*95= still a 2 hit

LCPL has 200-3*95= A 3 hit, but most of the time already it still is a 3 hit.

CPL has 225-3*95= still a 3 hit

New JrNCO has 275-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

New NCO has 300-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

You can do the other jobs but since these are the main jobs that are affected by the gun damage after 3 hits there has been plenty of time to strategize a run to somewhere to heal.

 

 

 

[Bread]

Its a one-shot-reload pistol, and I made it do 110 for a reason.

It still does worse than any other weapon that uses sniper ammo anyways.

D-Block will inevitably be changed again, so we'll see.

Edited March 4, 2021 by Bread

[[GL] funnyfish0]

8 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support, 

This would do nothing for the lower classes that die to the gun, only help strong classes, especially MTF presence in D Block, that already survive easily since they can escape and heal.

Would like to add most of the hits to models without limb damage do roughly 95-100 most of the time.

 

Officer has a combined total 150-2*95= still a 2 hit

LCPL has 200-3*95= A 3 hit, but most of the time already it still is a 3 hit.

CPL has 225-3*95= still a 3 hit

New JrNCO has 275-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

New NCO has 300-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

You can do the other jobs but since these are the main jobs that are affected by the gun damage after 3 hits there has been plenty of time to strategize a run to somewhere to heal.

 

 

 

[coint]

8 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support, 

This would do nothing for the lower classes that die to the gun, only help strong classes, especially MTF presence in D Block, that already survive easily since they can escape and heal.

Would like to add most of the hits to models without limb damage do roughly 95-100 most of the time.

 

Officer has a combined total 150-2*95= still a 2 hit

LCPL has 200-3*95= A 3 hit, but most of the time already it still is a 3 hit.

CPL has 225-3*95= still a 3 hit

New JrNCO has 275-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

New NCO has 300-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

You can do the other jobs but since these are the main jobs that are affected by the gun damage after 3 hits there has been plenty of time to strategize a run to somewhere to heal.

 

 

 

[Mary]

1 hour ago, Yato Sensei said:

- Support
Awful idea. Why nerf the gun when its pretty much up to the player? If you are fighting against it, just spam crouch while moving left to right, no one can hit you even if they are one of the best. 

Doesn't security have a sniper class? You know, with an AWP? That weapon is way more consistent and doesn't have to reload after every single shot + it deals more damage and there can be a decent amount of snipers + Nu7 can get called in or E11 could be stationed in front of D block.

Also riot control exists, camp at the purple line and trade shots, you will win 9/10 times unless there is 3 contendors shooting you at the same time.

Changing to -Support for now until the new map comes.

[Chief_]

15 hours ago, Sixx said:

+Support

That sniper is pathetically OP for D-Class to have, a nerf is needed to it. 

I say this if we go back to getting a d-block like site 05. But right now you guys and gals can just easily hide behind the elevator where we can't shoot you and are able to heal up as your out of combat. Prolonging your lifespan where you can take out multiple people. 

But it depends on the map change so + support for now

[Alexxxx]

-Support

Reasons Above.

[ShadowKnivesYou]

10 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support, 

This would do nothing for the lower classes that die to the gun, only help strong classes, especially MTF presence in D Block, that already survive easily since they can escape and heal.

Would like to add most of the hits to models without limb damage do roughly 95-100 most of the time.

 

Officer has a combined total 150-2*95= still a 2 hit

LCPL has 200-3*95= A 3 hit, but most of the time already it still is a 3 hit.

CPL has 225-3*95= still a 3 hit

New JrNCO has 275-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

New NCO has 300-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

You can do the other jobs but since these are the main jobs that are affected by the gun damage after 3 hits there has been plenty of time to strategize a run to somewhere to heal.

 

 

- Support

[Echo Romeo]

2 hours ago, Yato Sensei said:

- Support
Awful idea. Why nerf the gun when its pretty much up to the player? If you are fighting against it, just spam crouch while moving left to right, no one can hit you even if they are one of the best. 

Doesn't security have a sniper class? You know, with an AWP? That weapon is way more consistent and doesn't have to reload after every single shot + it deals more damage and there can be a decent amount of snipers + Nu7 can get called in or E11 could be stationed in front of D block.

Also riot control exists, camp at the purple line and trade shots, you will win 9/10 times unless there is 3 contendors shooting you at the same time.

The Thompson Contender literally has 1 shot in the mag, and half of the time does a little over 80 dmg. Honestly, I get countered so easily by the Sniper class and Riot Control I barely use the Contender and just use the Deagle or the Tec-9. The chances of 1-2 D Class killing even 5 Security in D Block with a Thompson is very low, and only extremely experienced players can do it for the most part. Overall -Support

[Elias Rock]

10 hours ago, Orange said:

-Support, 

This would do nothing for the lower classes that die to the gun, only help strong classes, especially MTF presence in D Block, that already survive easily since they can escape and heal.

Would like to add most of the hits to models without limb damage do roughly 95-100 most of the time.

 

Officer has a combined total 150-2*95= still a 2 hit

LCPL has 200-3*95= A 3 hit, but most of the time already it still is a 3 hit.

CPL has 225-3*95= still a 3 hit

New JrNCO has 275-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

New NCO has 300-3*95= would still be around an average of 3 hits factoring this model takes limb damage/ headshots

You can do the other jobs but since these are the main jobs that are affected by the gun damage after 3 hits there has been plenty of time to strategize a run to somewhere to heal.

 

 

-SUPPORT

[Snowwx]

- support reason above

Edited March 5, 2021 by Snowwx
mistake

[Star]

-Support
A completely unnecessary change, especially with the future map change.

[CinaedeInvictus]

On 3/4/2021 at 9:16 AM, Dang said:

- SUPPORT

- I just personally think Gensec have far stronger classes now with much better HP and Armor stats that can easily counter the Contender for example Gensec Sniper class. 

 

[Gunther]

I'm confused, has this weapon received any buffs at all? IIRC, this weapon has always been a D-Class main, and has done the same amount of damage. 

-/+Support 

I own a CC with this gun, and I obviously don't want it nerfed it cause I'm biased. However, I also don't know if it has been buffed at all in the past few months.

Also, I understand my opinion won't mean much due to me not playing anymore, but if I do start playing again, I don't want a weak CC.

Edited March 8, 2021 by Gunther

[Sixx]

Switching to a -Support due to the map changes coming soon.

[BadAim]

On 3/5/2021 at 10:46 AM, Starstep said:

-Support
A completely unnecessary change, especially with the future map change.

 

[Fieryphonix]

-Support 

 

[Slidezz]

+/- would be better for gensec to have better control over riots and not lose d block so often

but then d boys would have to use smgs and pistol since it seems that a sniper is basically their only way to over run dblock

[Cloaker]

On 3/4/2021 at 1:26 AM, Mind Stone said:

+Support

A sniper that can 2 shot OFC-LCPL is totally unfair for them. Class-D Shouldn't have a weapon that powerful.

like mind said this is unfair to a lot of lower classes like OFC as they can't defend their self from a sniper with a SMG.

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but then d boys would have to use smgs and pistol since it seems that a sniper is basically their only way to over run dblock

@Slidezzhave you seen the CC with the G Man model and the SMG? slaps Riot Control to no tomorrow.

Edited March 8, 2021 by Cloaker

[Some Weeb]

2 hours ago, Sixx said:

Switching to a -Support due to the map changes coming soon.

Yeah and I would like to say that the Contender should stay like this because GenSec has gotten a better arsenal.

That and when I am on usually the way we counter it is just one riot shield and one shotgun easy. 

[ap3322]

On 3/4/2021 at 9:16 AM, Dang said:

- SUPPORT

- I just personally think Gensec have far stronger classes now with much better HP and Armor stats that can easily counter the Contender for example Gensec Sniper class. 

 

[Warmercarp]

Just like Spud

For this current map +Support but if it starts not becoming an issue in the new map thats coming, this might change.