PryingTree Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) What are you suggesting? - To update the paid jobsRnD ghost unit - No changes needed, they are a non-combatant class and already have really low HP and AP. With shit weapons. Zeta-6/SO - Remove tfa_aw50 (AI AW50 Sniper Rifle) Way overpowered for a invisible class Remove tfa_csgo_flash (Standard Flash) Not used, and not really neededAdd tfa_csgo_smoke (Standard Smoke) Very well utilized in mech raids ect Add tfa_csgo_nova (Shotgun) A replacement for the sniper rifle, makes up for the lower HP (150/150) Add weapon_doom3_flashlight ("Mag Lights") Helpful for 280 breach CI Infiltrator Remove tfa_aw50 (AI AW50 Sniper Rifle) Way overpowered for a invisible classAdd tfa_csgo_xm1014 (XM1014) A replacement for the sniper rifle, downgrade from the Nova because they have 175/175 Warden Exspira - N/A MTF E11 Pathfinder - Remove AWP (tfa_csgo_awp) I understand the AWP is to make up for the ACR and Duel Pistols, but it is still overpowered. That's why the Aug is suppose to make up for it. Remove tfa_csgo_elite (Dual Berettas) No need when getting replaced by the MP5Remove ACR (tfa_acr) Getting replaced for the AUGAdd tfa_auga3 (Advanced Aug) A replacement for removing the AWP and ACRAdd tfa_mp5sd (MP5SD) Replacement for removing the ACR Add tfa_csgo_e11_smoke (Dark Black Smoke) Useful when well utilized MTF Lambda-9 -Add weapon_doom3_flashlight ("Mag Lights") Helpful for 280 breach How would this change better the server? - Balances the P2W aspect of the game Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Players that have spent money Who would this change mostly benefit? - People who want balance Edited June 9, 2022 by PryingTree 4 It wouldn't allow me to put a link in here so you are stuck with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drago Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, PryingTree said: Warden Exspira - Remove the job (Hear me out before -Supporting) Security's job is to make sure D-class don't riot and sometimes contain SCPs/GIO. But this is excessive. Way to overpowered for when wardens primary objective is SCPs and D-class. It is unnecessary and just another job to try and feel like a especial force. The job is not needed ^ -Support this job has proved useful in both recontinuing SCP and dealing with D-Class and isn't that over powered as it still gets taken down quit a lot also there are limited amount of people who have the job. +Support for the flashlights -Support For removeing the AW50 from the jobs its not that good of a sniper and hasn't caused many issues with being over powered against SCPs and Dclass, and since both CI and foundation have a job with it then its fair +Support for replacing the the dual Berettas for the MP5 on pathfinder +Support for replacing the ACR for the Aug on Pathfinders Neutral for the rest Edited June 8, 2022 by drago89115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 8 hours ago, drago89115 said: ^ -Support this job has proved useful in both recontinuing SCP and dealing with D-Class and isn't that over powered as it still gets taken down quit a lot also there are limited amount of people who have the job. +Support for the flashlights -Support For removeing the AW50 from the jobs its not that good of a sniper and hasn't caused many issues with being over powered against SCPs and Dclass, and since both CI and foundation have a job with it then its fair +Support for replacing the the dual Berettas for the MP5 on pathfinder +Support for replacing the ACR for the Aug on Pathfinders Neutral for the rest [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPL Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 8 hours ago, drago89115 said: ^ -Support this job has proved useful in both recontinuing SCP and dealing with D-Class and isn't that over powered as it still gets taken down quit a lot also there are limited amount of people who have the job. +Support for the flashlights -Support For removeing the AW50 from the jobs its not that good of a sniper and hasn't caused many issues with being over powered against SCPs and Dclass, and since both CI and foundation have a job with it then its fair +Support for replacing the the dual Berettas for the MP5 on pathfinder +Support for replacing the ACR for the Aug on Pathfinders Neutral for the rest SCP-RP | Maintenance Expert | HLPR Bot bT5 | Senior Researcher | Senior Event Team Member Custom Classes | Umbrella Corporation Operative "Pathos" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) -support Let the respective branch leaders request adjustments to the donor & cloaker classes under their jurisdiction. Edited June 8, 2022 by [GL] Fizz-y Soda CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phrog Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 cant we just replace all guns with idk, cat guns idk, it might just be me but i feel like that would be way more interesting proffesional emoji user and misspslerr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilThinMints Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 -support Someone shitting on yall with infill I guess Free Melly Free TayK Free Fetty Wap Free Pooh Shiesty Current Rank/s: none dumbass Former Ranks: E11 2LT, CI SM, RND SVA, Gen-Sec MSGT, Nu7 SGT, RRH Guardians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Buck Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 -support I’m not sure why infil classes are becoming an issue now? They have been around forever and have never caused issues RETIRED SCP-RP:Delta-5 CPT | Deputy Head G9| Medical DHFW Doctor. | E11 1LT | Head Ranger | D4 Vanguard FF5 | RnD EOI V3 Canibal ImperialRP: MC 1LT Bacon 3817 | DT SGT FF5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operator Houston Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said: -support Let the respective branch leaders request adjustments to the donor & cloaker classes under their jurisdiction. Current: CI Military Private, Junior Maintenance Former: Nu-7 DHFTO 2LT, Delta-5 WO, Research Supervisor, RRH Analyst Alpha 19, SCP-RP Event Team Member, SCP-RP Senior Moderator Jetstream Sam Enthusiast | Gloveless Individual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Twix Bar Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Its Buck said: -support I’m not sure why infil classes are becoming an issue now? They have been around forever and have never caused issues 1 hour ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said: -support Let the respective branch leaders request adjustments to the donor & cloaker classes under their jurisdiction. Like, genuinely. We've had this cloaking system for like 2-3 months. Why is this only a problem now? And, changing those classes is more-so for those HCMD. If CI overwhelmingly has a problem with a class, they'll talk to MTF HCMD and vice versa. Current: None Former: Security Sergeant Major (and SFC), Director of Logistics, Alpha-1 Private First Class, CI Mil Private First Class (and E4 C6), Nu7 Lance Corporal, CI RnD Supervisory Agent (and EOI F3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) STRONG -SUPPORT Note: This focuses specifically on the Exspira suggestion. Exspira, and Wardens as a whole is Security's counter to CI when MTF cannot do the job (this isn't saying MTF are bad, it's when MTF are dead or just not online). CI comes into the facility with massive amounts of health and can easily kick the shit out of anyone they encounter except for the 3 Foundation SF's on the server. Exspira is also extremely weak against large groups, and can typically only take on lone targets, or really weak groups (such as Class-D). Additionally, Exspira typically has to get close up as its ranged weapon is pretty shitty and its other weapon is the KSG, which while a pretty good shotgun, pales in comparison to the USAS. The entire point of Exspira is to focus on Recon, Intel Gathering, Stealth Missions, and Assassinations rather than head to head combat. It is powerful when you're fighting a group of D-Class and maybe 2 CI, but any group of 3+ CI can easily destroy an Exspira. Additionally, there are less than 10 people who have access to Exspira, INCLUDING Security HCMD (and excluding Site Admin which both realistically never use the job in favor of Warden Praetor). It may feel like there's more at times because 3 of the people on it are extremely active on the server. If you get killed by an Exspira, it's because you were alone, a priority target (We especially prioritize Bio-Engineers), or really low, and you should either know the risks or stick together more. Edited June 8, 2022 by Ein 1 RETIRED Security Colonel / Warden Legate / Juggernaut Enforcer / Research Administrator / M.A.D. Site Operations Chief / RRA Professor / MTF Delta-5 'Front Runners' Captain / Veteran Raptor Operative / Internal Affairs Agency Assistant Director / MTF Nu-7 'Hammer Down' Captain / Covert Agent / Deputy Head Field Training Officer / UN Global Occult Coalition Corporal / Combat Medic Tactical Paramedic / R&D Scientist / Marksman Recon Specialist / MTF Alpha-1 'Red Right Hand' Major / Enforcer Squadron Lead "We are the first line of defense. We are the first responders tasked to save those in danger. We have the responsibility to ensure the safety and well-being of all staff members. Because of that, you are the bravest men I have ever had the honor to serve with.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Stone Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 12 hours ago, PryingTree said: Warden Exspira - Remove the job (Hear me out before -Supporting) Security's job is to make sure D-class don't riot and sometimes contain SCPs/GIO. But this is excessive. Way to overpowered for when wardens primary objective is SCPs and D-class. It is unnecessary and just another job to try and feel like a especial force. The job is not needed Correction. Our job as Security is to ensure the safety of the facility and protect against GOI, SCP breaches, and most commonly riots. While we focus and specialize in D-Block primarily, we aren’t always in there. The wardens sub-branch was created for that purpose. Exspira was not created with the intent of killing Class-D (although we still use it on them), but rather as I already stated dealing with SCPs and GOI. It is for this reason we place extremely heavy restrictions on it entering D-Block. Also, I need to mention we didn’t create the job to feel like a special forces job. On another note, thanks for outright trying to remove our job and telling us that our job is “unneeded” 1 Retired LCZ Manager : Pingas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PryingTree Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Mind Stone said: On another note, thanks for outright trying to remove our job and telling us that our job is “unneeded” Well thank you for giving me more information on the topic I didn't know. I asked questions to an exspira before this and I used the information gathered to do the post. I shall edit the post to what deems fit. It wouldn't allow me to put a link in here so you are stuck with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucarioKing Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 5 hours ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said: -support Let the respective branch leaders request adjustments to the donor & cloaker classes under their jurisdiction. ︎︎︎︎︎︎︎︎🗐︎ | Owner CC: CI TF2 Heavy (without Auger)| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseman Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Mind Stone said: Correction. Our job as Security is to ensure the safety of the facility and protect against GOI, SCP breaches, and most commonly riots. While we focus and specialize in D-Block primarily, we aren’t always in there. The wardens sub-branch was created for that purpose. Exspira was not created with the intent of killing Class-D (although we still use it on them), but rather as I already stated dealing with SCPs and GOI. It is for this reason we place extremely heavy restrictions on it entering D-Block. Also, I need to mention we didn’t create the job to feel like a special forces job. On another note, thanks for outright trying to remove our job and telling us that our job is “unneeded” ok exspira they work on doing recon escorting and helping the site as killing d class that they are on LCZ,HCZ and EZ and helping to recontain SCPs the job is not paid to be exspira you must asist a tryout and them get chosen after that you must show to the warden command if you are worthy to be on EXSPIRA which is not easy BTW warden hcmd will decide if you should deserve EXSPIRA or no. Rules for exspira to be cloak stay cloak all the time you may be uncloak if you are going to get heal and securing scp when its code yellow+ below and every EXSPIRA must be uncloak when it comes to code blue and resume patrol of the site. Plus Wardens are meant to be the best of the best of security that's why every warden tryout we can only choose 2 new canditates and to join the tryout we only look for LCPL+ on gensec and no actual strike so yeah. SEC WP DECIMUS M4A1 Something that i did forget to add EXSPIRA are allow to be on d block only if theres any MAJ or Warden Praefect or Warden Legate approve them and it must be either partial lockdown or full lockdown CURRENT RANKS SCPRP: NoneRetired E-11 COL and EX GENSEC MAJ CHAD WITH GOLDENPAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drago Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 18 hours ago, PryingTree said: Not allowed to interfere with killing D-class unless harmed. Explanation: Way overpowered and unfair to D-class when they are cloaked If this is the case it should be for all clockers not just Exspira trying to focus specifically on security cookers is just trying to give security the sort end of the stick witch I fell has goten a lot better recently -Support for new Exspira rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PryingTree Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 53 minutes ago, drago89115 said: If this is the case it should be for all clockers not just Exspira trying to focus specifically on security cookers is just trying to give security the sort end of the stick witch I fell has goten a lot better recently -Support for new Exspira rule I just removed it all together I really just want the other things implemented It wouldn't allow me to put a link in here so you are stuck with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chineseman Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 19 hours ago, PryingTree said: MTF E11 Pathfinder - Remove AWP (tfa_csgo_awp) I understand the AWP is to make up for the ACR and Duel Pistols, but it is still overpowered. That's why the Aug is suppose to make up for it. Remove tfa_csgo_elite (Dual Berettas) No need when getting replaced by the MP5Remove ACR (tfa_acr) Getting replaced for the AUGAdd tfa_auga3 (Advanced Aug) A replacement for removing the AWP and ACRAdd tfa_mp5sd (MP5SD) Replacement for removing the ACR Add tfa_csgo_e11_smoke (Dark Black Smoke) Useful when well utilized @Clistrour POV CURRENT RANKS SCPRP: NoneRetired E-11 COL and EX GENSEC MAJ CHAD WITH GOLDENPAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 you should speak to branch HCMD about changes (for Zeta-6 you speak to Toasty) about changes. i think snipers are fine because funny thermals exist and the snipers themselves arent the most powerful (Awp, AW50. i suggest giving the AWP to Infil as well) The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarl Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 2:14 AM, PandaInShitpostLand said: you should speak to branch HCMD about changes (for Zeta-6 you speak to Toasty) about changes. Big - Support Yes. Please stop trying to undermine a branch/job's HCMD/SA. It's becoming very annoying with normal people trying to do a branch update that a HCMD has never seen. Retired: Nu7 SM Zarl/Head Of Medical Staff Zack/Medic Man Larry/HTF Head ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 -Support You should try talking to HCMD/SA before posting something like this. I also just do not like the change Former: 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐃𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐫 - 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐀𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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