mt. moncher Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 What are you suggesting? - A small armory that would have weapons that are more expensive, and not as great as the normal Armory, Suppliers, and Mining, would be added to lower D-Block as an alternative for D-Class. How would this change better the server? - It is far too hard to get weapons as a D-Class, with mining it takes upwards of an hour to get all the materials you need, and craft all the weapons, and if you haven’t mined on the surface, you have to pay thousands to get the materials you need. The alternative for mining is Suppliers, and with Suppliers, you have to get lucky enough to find one online considering how inactive the job is, they have to be ready to sell guns, and you have to hope they aren’t over-charging for the guns. The armory would fix this, as you would still be able to get some better weapons from mining, and it would be more expensive than getting from Suppliers, this makes it far easier for D-Class to get a weapon which makes it less annoying when you get forced into feeding and lose all of your progress. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - The only real disadvantage is too Foundation Jobs, where it would be harder in some situations for Security to hold down D-Block, but on the contrary, it’s already pretty easy, GenSEC spawns with good guns, especially their custom classes, and command. Who would this change mostly benefit from? - This change will mostly benefit Chaos Insurgency and D-Class, as D-Class can now more easily escape, which would greatly help CI. Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - N/A Thanks for reading! -Moncher 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Apple Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 -Support Unless this only sold the shittest of pistols this would cause a problem as D Class getting loose already cause problems which force utility and research to spend hours trapped in bunks 4 [Just Apple I Suppose] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Apple said: -Support Unless this only sold the shittest of pistols this would cause a problem as D Class getting loose already cause problems which force utility and research to spend hours trapped in bunks Former: 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐃𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐫 - 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐀𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripjaw56789 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, The Apple said: -Support Unless this only sold the shittest of pistols this would cause a problem as D Class getting loose already cause problems which force utility and research to spend hours trapped in bunks If I may, aren't they allowed out on most codes now? Now my input on suggestion: -Support Getting a weapon as D Class is much easier with the supplier who sells a basic SMG now which is good enough to get you to armory for more powerful guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanGuy Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 -Support Former CI CPT| Guts | Mexican “I will protect those who cannot protect themselves. ” —Second Ideal of the Windrunners— Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 -Support D-Class already have multiple ways of getting weapons, this is unneeded. [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 - SUPPORT Class D supplier is the D class armory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoovy Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 -Support Not Needed. Get some weapons from a Supplier or go mine for them. Or find a cool fella named Breakout Bob. Former SCP:RP Event Team Leader (5/15/19 - 12/31/19) Current SCP:RP Head Administrator "I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 26 minutes ago, Hoovy said: -Support Not Needed. Get some weapons from a Supplier or go mine for them. Or find a cool fella named Breakout Bob. CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaming Goat Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, The Apple said: -Support Unless this only sold the shittest of pistols this would cause a problem as D Class getting loose already cause problems which force utility and research to spend hours trapped in bunks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 -Support I believe Class-D is balanced as they should be within RP. I think this addition would make them overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tania Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 -nay "Osu! Fucking Pro" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Dice Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 9 hours ago, Hoovy said: -Support Not Needed. Get some weapons from a Supplier or go mine for them. Or find a cool fella named Breakout Bob. Demonically Inspired ..Nu7 CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanaFrost Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 -SupportA. This will make 'D Class Supplier' Obsolete B. This removes the purpose of other D Class Donor Jobs C. This makes total imbalance of the D Class Vs. Gensec control over D block D. Where would they put it? E. This full force makes the mines Absolutely unnecessary F. This can turn the tides of any and all battles involving D Block needing constant 'Full Lockdown D Block' G. This causes major issue for research in the fact that they need D class correct? This makes it utterly fucking impossible for a D class to be grabbed H. This makes it really problematic for MTF if they have to constantly be dealing with D class instead of other issues like SCPs and Dr. Maynard Overall this is unnecessary and ruins the fragile killing flow, where everything is webbed carefully on balance and control. TL;DR : Beyond Unnecessary and beyond unbalanced Former Nu7 Second Lieutenant Nanafrost / Nu7 SM NanafrostExperienced Medic WinterFrostFormer RRH Engineer Foxtrot 69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastertlf Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 -Support Supplier exists for a reason, D-class is underpowered for a reason, quantity over quality, if D-class had access to guns at all times Gensec would have next to no chance because there is almost never more gensec than D-class unless its super late/early MTF would constantly need to help at d-block instead of focusing on SCPs, CI raids, Sleuths, etc. D-class is weak because they have numbers not because its unbalanced -Nu7 CPT Mark Robinson Nu-7 Hammer Down Captain, Previous LR in Research, Professional Minge, Medically Diagnosed With Cringe, Sad boi I Finally Retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasty Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 - Massive support D-Class don't need that, every day D-Class are running wild for hours on end due to them having access to the tec-9 from the supplier. For the most part D-Class are stronger then security, yes there is security CCs but every other job is fairly weak when it comes to HP and Armor since they are supposed to fight D-Class. In my opinion D-Class should have a hard time escaping from the facility but at the moment they just destroy security enlisted and NCOs and once they get to armory and get good guns they are also a problem for MTF and MTF already has to deal with all the SCPs trying to breach and CI raiding they don't need D-Class constantly rioting making it impossible to grab a D-Class for feeding a SCP. Another reason this wont benefit the server is that it will cause the site to be constantly code red so researchers and maintenance cant do their thing, if research and maintenance cant play then it will most likely kill the branches due to the players being unable to actually play and nobody wants to sit in bunks all the time, this will also kill security activity since no one would want to just spawn die over and over because D-Class have guns from the armory. Also since D-Class have no NLR it would make it incredibly more overpowered if they had access to armory guns. 1 Former: O5-10 "The Mad General" / SCP-RP Head Admin / CI 2LT / Security CPT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_krew10 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) - supp plz no more d-class negevs Edited July 14, 2021 by a_krew10 Retired SEC HFTO COL akrew10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisNuts Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 12 hours ago, recon said: - SUPPORT Class D supplier is the D class armory. CI CMDRCC: CI Requiem Squad XH-76 Biggest DMC Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItzGray Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Toasty said: - Massive support D-Class don't need that, every day D-Class are running wild for hours on end due to them having access to the tec-9 from the supplier. For the most part D-Class are stronger then security, yes there is security CCs but every other job is fairly weak when it comes to HP and Armor since they are supposed to fight D-Class. In my opinion D-Class should have a hard time escaping from the facility but at the moment they just destroy security enlisted and NCOs and once they get to armory and get good guns they are also a problem for MTF and MTF already has to deal with all the SCPs trying to breach and CI raiding they don't need D-Class constantly rioting making it impossible to grab a D-Class for feeding a SCP. Another reason this wont benefit the server is that it will cause the site to be constantly code red so researchers and maintenance cant do their thing, if research and maintenance cant play then it will most likely kill the branches due to the players being unable to actually play and nobody wants to sit in bunks all the time, this will also kill security activity since no one would want to just spawn die over and over because D-Class have guns from the armory. Also since D-Class have no NLR it would make it incredibly more overpowered if they had access to armory guns. Current: Former: | RRH Sierra 47 | | E11 LCPL | | MJ | | AR | | Gensec SM | | CI SFC | | CI IA | | M | | Nu7 DHFE Lieutenant Colonel | | HTF A4 Z Viper A4 | | AH1Z Viper | SCP-RP: | Former staff: 6/18/21 -> 11/18/21| | Staff 2x 2/26/22 -> 10/28/22 | | Joined: Apr, 2021~ | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWNED Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 This would kill other branches like research from the constant riots it would cause you have to remember, this is SCP-ROLEPLAY not SCP-Deathmatch, we dont need more changes that further move the server away from RP and more towards deathmatch battles -Support Former E11 1LT/Head Ranger, Former Event Team/Staff Member| GENSEC SGT Foundation Chef <- me when the quiet guy in D-block begins to reach into his pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_ Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 18 hours ago, Hoovy said: -Support Not Needed. Get some weapons from a Supplier or go mine for them. Or find a cool fella named Breakout Bob. Or a nice furry known as Chiefy Wuffy or as D-YLZ-2157 Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 19 hours ago, Sixx said: -Support D-Class already have multiple ways of getting weapons, this is unneeded. Deputy Head of Security | Executive Event Team | Admin | Forum Diplomat | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 -Support If you want weapons so bad, get someone to become supplier, they will be happy to make a profit on a weapon and both sides are happy This would be uneeded and cause more server lag The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Himself Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 14 hours ago, NanaFrost said: -SupportA. This will make 'D Class Supplier' Obsolete B. This removes the purpose of other D Class Donor Jobs C. This makes total imbalance of the D Class Vs. Gensec control over D block D. Where would they put it? E. This full force makes the mines Absolutely unnecessary F. This can turn the tides of any and all battles involving D Block needing constant 'Full Lockdown D Block' G. This causes major issue for research in the fact that they need D class correct? This makes it utterly fucking impossible for a D class to be grabbed H. This makes it really problematic for MTF if they have to constantly be dealing with D class instead of other issues like SCPs and Dr. Maynard Overall this is unnecessary and ruins the fragile killing flow, where everything is webbed carefully on balance and control. TL;DR : Beyond Unnecessary and beyond unbalanced CI Military Sergeant Major | CI R&D Assistant Archivist and Lead of Sleuths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsoil Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 When suggesting something that will affect gameplay in a significant way, you have to base what you say around balance by also observations the current situation that both branches roles fall into. You’d be correct in that Security spawns with more HP/AP and better, ranged weapons, but never had you considered the advantages of D-Class, particularly CCs: the weapons they receive can pack a punch. D-Class have the element of surprise and will always be allowed to, given the circumstances. D-Class usually have the numbers advantage. Unlike Security, D-Class aren’t confined to static positions that Enlisted personnel usually take. D-Class will never be punished as heavily as Security for dying because their NLR is effectively non-existent. The point that I’m trying to get at here is that giving every D-Class a cheap pistol will improve their overall effectively tenfold. They have nearly every factor in their favour, aside from spawning with weapons and that’s already a given on custom classes that frequent the server. D-Block will never be held reliably with the current gun game between D-Class and Security. For this and all reasons stated already stated above, I'm giving this a: -Support 15/4/2021 - 17/8/2021 Former: GENSEC MAJ | Nu-7 SM | RRH Guardian - Kilo 16 | Senior Moderator | Event Team Member | Support 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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