Comrade Boekhom Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 What are you suggesting? - Nerf the reload speed or change the grenade launcher back to the 1 shot, genuinely it is a op launcher How would this change better the server? - Raids not being instantly destroyed by 6 grenades to the face Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Less explosions? Who would this change mostly benefit? - CI/Sarkic/Any combatants against mtf Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - N/A Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 How about CI removes Trap expert and Mtf Removes Explosive Specialist........................................ Sounds like a better plan to me. (Leave demo-expert as its a donator job, cant remove that sadly) Rather go back to guns only combat than the shit we have now, Explosives have only caused the server/staff issues and while they can be fun to use from time to time those classes are heavily situational. CI Command Would be good with removing Trap Expert but i doubt foundation/mtf will. +Support since Omi9 got their explosive job back now CI has to put up with 2 new job slots with explosive weaponry, CI HCMD was fine with Nu7 buffing their explosive job as they had just lost e11/omi9 explosive jobs but now it feels like CI just got a good old slap to the face with the return of the omi9 explosive job. (The argument that Nu7's new load out on explosive specialist inst a buff is ridiculous, having multiple shots on a grenade launcher is better than 1, end of story) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 +Support A single person with a grenade launcher shouldn't be able to stop an entire CI raid, this ruins CI fun. I believe the grenade launcher should only have 1-2 shots in it at MAX. [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yato Sensei Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, Sixx said: +Support A single person with a grenade launcher shouldn't be able to stop an entire CI raid, this ruins CI fun. I believe the grenade launcher should only have 1-2 shots in it at MAX. + Support Joined 09/30/2020Retired 11/12/2022Former Security SFC || Former MTF Omi9 MSGT || Former CI CPT/MAJ || Former Nu7 LTCOL/VCMDR || Former E11 CPL || Former Maintenance Professional || Former D5 CPT || Former Senior Medic || Former Advanced Researcher | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 54 minutes ago, Coltable said: How about CI removes Trap expert and Mtf Removes Explosive Specialist........................................ Sounds like a better plan to me. (Leave demo-expert as its a donator job, cant remove that sadly) Rather go back to guns only combat than the shit we have now, Explosives have only caused the server/staff issues and while they can be fun to use from time to time those classes are heavily situational. CI Command Would be good with removing Trap Expert but i doubt foundation/mtf will. +Support since Omi9 got their explosive job back now CI has to put up with 2 new job slots with explosive weaponry, CI HCMD was fine with Nu7 buffing their explosive job as they had just lost e11/omi9 explosive jobs but now it feels like CI just got a good old slap to the face with the return of the omi9 explosive job. (The argument that Nu7's new load out on explosive specialist inst a buff is ridiculous, having multiple shots on a grenade launcher is better than 1, end of story) It would solve the problem of no one being on to train for it lol. The rules on this are so strict that it'll just be easier to get rid of the classes. Grenades should be the main explosives used. CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General bacon Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 I belive talking to the Branch leader before making suggestions like those would be better and I think that was already mentioned multiples times in other suggestions. But for nerfing the EX41 itself, the person playing Nu-7 Explosive specialist he should be waiting 3 second between each shot as stated in the SOP and if he dosent do so then report him to the respective Nu-7 cmd member. The class itself is not that tanky and is able to be taken out quite fast if the opposing party does their job properly. The Nu-7 ES is at the State it is at the moment because Omi-9 and E11 lost their explosive based jobs and we removed most of the explosives on the job to implement that weapon. And lastly a very select few people have access to the job so it is rare that 2 are on. That behing said I will leave a -support on this. 1 Retired MTF Nu7 LTCOL| Retired Nu7 HFTO | Retired OH1 | Retired Admin | French Canadian ManCustom Classes: Raptor Team | Jeff the killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattOminigo3 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Omi 9 having theirs back has made this a bit of a problem. Would've liked to be talked to before this. We removed all our explosives on the class initially including the c4 for the 3 shots. I don't think it needs to have it's ammo removed. Could increase the timer between shots or remove Omi 9 explosives specialist like it was meant to before. Or go back to the C4 perhaps but no one used it. If the ammo gets nerfed I request an allowance to change the class then because it will end up becoming terrible. Grinding with Nu7 |Past SGT in A1, Gensec and CI | Was a great Tech | Saved Beanz from doom thrice | Didn't save Rang | Gets bullied by Surge | Loves all in the server Custom Classes: Spy, D-Class 2304 | CNTN Bot , Raptor Team |Tango - 14, CTF Retired DoTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltable Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, General bacon said: The Nu-7 ES is at the State it is at the moment because Omi-9 and E11 lost their explosive based jobs Omi-9 got their job back. 7 minutes ago, General bacon said: Nu-7 Explosive specialist he should be waiting 3 second between each shot as stated in the SOP Staff/Players cant sit there in combat counting 3 seconds in case the nu7 breaks SOP, This is something that should be implemented into the weapon its self by slowing down reload speed to 3 seconds..? This is a logical fix and very easy to implement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) Haven't we just all talked and agreed upon talking to Branch leads BEFORE making suggestion to change their branch? I am going to have to -Support this because this isn't exactly something we should be discussing over the forums. Rather something you bring to branch leads for them to make the decision themself. If they say no and you feel thats unfair then contact SA. Don't try to change a branch's job without talking to HCMD or SA first. Let's try to be civil here and not post stuff on the forums without coming to an easy compromise that could be discussed with High Command. I'm gonna be real honest here and we all know this. Bread and MattO are very reasonable people. Talk to them, discuss this with them as this is something they can EASILY fix without having to involve SMT. Here I'll do half the work for you: MattOminigo3#0749 Edited December 29, 2020 by [GL] Mike 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guinea Pig Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 -Support Yes the class can be powerful but simple nerf to its number one weapon is a no-go. Maybe simply lowering the HP /AP or having more strict rules would be better but nerfing it's number one toy is not a good option. It would make the class not playable or fun to use. [SCP-RP] Retired E-11 COL, HFTO and D4 Head | Former CI MSGT/2LT | Former Alpha-1 "Red-Right Hand" Guardian Delta-9 | Former Nu7 2LT/SM HSU Conscript | Former Om-9 2LT and EXP Seasoned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaten Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 44 minutes ago, General bacon said: I belive talking to the Branch leader before making suggestions like those would be better and I think that was already mentioned multiples times in other suggestions. But for nerfing the EX41 itself, the person playing Nu-7 Explosive specialist he should be waiting 3 second between each shot as stated in the SOP and if he dosent do so then report him to the respective Nu-7 cmd member. The class itself is not that tanky and is able to be taken out quite fast if the opposing party does their job properly. The Nu-7 ES is at the State it is at the moment because Omi-9 and E11 lost their explosive based jobs and we removed most of the explosives on the job to implement that weapon. And lastly a very select few people have access to the job so it is rare that 2 are on. That behing said I will leave a -support on this. We don't even really stop raids all the time either. Its really easy to combat explosives by just spreading out and avoiding the blast/getting out of tight spaces as well as people not rushing into battle but instead playing a support role. Overall-Support hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Niro Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 (edited) I am not even in Nu7 anymore but when i was in the branch and used ES It wasn't that op Even if you say Oh you can stop a raid when you shoot 3 shoots in a doorway it only kills 2-3 [sometimes more] But it is ci fault for going in a group if you don't want to get bombed.-support ------------ Idea for CI Make SF/Heavys/delta go in first and everyone to back off so they can take all of the shots then all rush in its the easiest way to get past a ES If you get in a ES Face he can't shoot you with GL and they don't have shotguns Edited December 29, 2020 by Not Niro Current: ------Former: Nu7 1lt/WO SFTOx2 ECRS Hammer and Sickle Unit l Gensec SGT l E11 CPL/Ranger l Alpha-1 MSGT l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashh Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, Guinea Pig said: -Support Yes the class can be powerful but simple nerf to its number one weapon is a no-go. Maybe simply lowering the HP /AP or having more strict rules would be better but nerfing it's number one toy is not a good option. It would make the class not playable or fun to use. Former: Nu-7 Captain | Event Team Member | Maintenance ProfessionalCurrently D-0007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanGuy Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Coltable said: How about CI removes Trap expert and Mtf Removes Explosive Specialist........................................ Sounds like a better plan to me. (Leave demo-expert as its a donator job, cant remove that sadly) Rather go back to guns only combat than the shit we have now, Explosives have only caused the server/staff issues and while they can be fun to use from time to time those classes are heavily situational. CI Command Would be good with removing Trap Expert but i doubt foundation/mtf will. +Support since Omi9 got their explosive job back now CI has to put up with 2 new job slots with explosive weaponry, CI HCMD was fine with Nu7 buffing their explosive job as they had just lost e11/omi9 explosive jobs but now it feels like CI just got a good old slap to the face with the return of the omi9 explosive job. (The argument that Nu7's new load out on explosive specialist inst a buff is ridiculous, having multiple shots on a grenade launcher is better than 1, end of story) I like the idea of coltable, the explosives such as the grenade launcher or the c4 are too many broken, but in such a case that they cannot be removed, I consider that the job should serve more defense than for offense, using more slam to defend the base , in case of ci or defend a certain sector of the foundation. In addition to having more grenades (around 4 or 5) and smokes, flash, etc.. Former CI CPT| Guts | Mexican “I will protect those who cannot protect themselves. ” —Second Ideal of the Windrunners— Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bread Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 We talked about and agreed on this change beforehand. Omi9 is not keeping their job for much longer. Talk to us next time. 2 1 1 lol, lmao even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, [GL] Mike said: Haven't we just all talked and agreed upon talking to Branch leads BEFORE making suggestion to change their branch? I am going to have to -Support this because this isn't exactly something we should be discussing over the forums. Rather something you bring to branch leads for them to make the decision themself. If they say no and you feel thats unfair then contact SA. Don't try to change a branch's job without talking to HCMD or SA first. Let's try to be civil here and not post stuff on the forums without coming to an easy compromise that could be discussed with High Command. I'm gonna be real honest here and we all know this. Bread and MattO are very reasonable people. Talk to them, discuss this with them as this is something they can EASILY fix without having to involve SMT. Here I'll do half the work for you: MattOminigo3#0749 Retired Super Admin Blackbeard (SCPRP) | Retired Director of Containment: Blackbeard | Retired Director of Task Forces: Blackbeard | The One and Only Omicron-9 Commander | Retired O5-6 "The American" (SCPRP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Bread said: We talked about and agreed on this change beforehand. Omi9 is not keeping their job for much longer. Talk to us next time. I can indeed confirm this. Retired Super Admin Blackbeard (SCPRP) | Retired Director of Containment: Blackbeard | Retired Director of Task Forces: Blackbeard | The One and Only Omicron-9 Commander | Retired O5-6 "The American" (SCPRP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Romeo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 hours ago, General bacon said: I belive talking to the Branch leader before making suggestions like those would be better and I think that was already mentioned multiples times in other suggestions. But for nerfing the EX41 itself, the person playing Nu-7 Explosive specialist he should be waiting 3 second between each shot as stated in the SOP and if he dosent do so then report him to the respective Nu-7 cmd member. The class itself is not that tanky and is able to be taken out quite fast if the opposing party does their job properly. The Nu-7 ES is at the State it is at the moment because Omi-9 and E11 lost their explosive based jobs and we removed most of the explosives on the job to implement that weapon. And lastly a very select few people have access to the job so it is rare that 2 are on. That behing said I will leave a -support on this. Imperial RP] Ex-Gamemaster| Ex-Starfighter Corps. Officer| Ex-Onyx Squad Officer| Ex-Inferno Squad Squadron Leader| Ex-Shadow Guard Officer VII| INO Chad. SCP RP] Retired-Nu7 1st Lieutenant| Ex-GENSEC Master Sergeant and Junior Warden| Retired-Chaos Insurgency 1st Lieutenant| Zeta-19| Epic Payday Gang(2nd ever)| Ex-A1 Guardian| Ex-Event Team Member."You are a quarter of a million strong, and you shoot well, but what if I showed of with 500,000 men? What would you do?" -Kaiser Wilhelm II "We would shoot twice, and we'd go home" -Swiss Militiaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enuz 💣 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 what the hell happened...... 1 Former Head of Janitorial | HCZ man geer | lvl 70 life wizard | Roblox Clothing Designer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Terrible way to go about it, if you have any concerns speak to high command and not straight to the forums. We have very strict regulations for Explosives Specialists, it's very simple to just capture a recording of the event, check back with the recording in order to ensure that the Explosive Specialist respected the 3 second rule, if not then bring it up with Nu-7 command and they'll deal with that person. You must be trusted and recommended by senior command+ in order to apply for the job in the first place, and then they may or may not pass the application portion. All current explosives specialists are aware they may face removal if they don't uphold the restrictions of the class itself. -Support Former | Nu-7 'Hammer-Down' Lieutenant Colonel | Head of Field Experts | Special Forces: Hammer and Sickle (Commissar Apollo) | ECRS, ERS, EBHM | Interim Head of FTOs Former | Maintenance Adept | MMF JAN 1 (Fabuloso) | Containment Specialist | FTO Former | Special Forces: 'Red Right Hand' OH4 (Kindred) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodaㅤ Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 44 minutes ago, Kindred said: Terrible way to go about it, if you have any concerns speak to high command and not straight to the forums. We have very strict regulations for Explosives Specialists, it's very simple to just capture a recording of the event, check back with the recording in order to ensure that the Explosive Specialist respected the 3 second rule, if not then bring it up with Nu-7 command and they'll deal with that person. You must be trusted and recommended by senior command+ in order to apply for the job in the first place, and then they may or may not pass the application portion. All current explosives specialists are aware they may face removal if they don't uphold the restrictions of the class itself. -Support Nu7 CPT | Nu7 DHFTO | Head of Degeneracy | Former OH7 | | HSU #1 | Ex Nu7 MAJ | Ex DHFTO | Ex HSU Commissar | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a frog Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 21 hours ago, [GL] Mike said: Haven't we just all talked and agreed upon talking to Branch leads BEFORE making suggestion to change their branch? I am going to have to -Support this because this isn't exactly something we should be discussing over the forums. Rather something you bring to branch leads for them to make the decision themself. If they say no and you feel thats unfair then contact SA. Don't try to change a branch's job without talking to HCMD or SA first. Let's try to be civil here and not post stuff on the forums without coming to an easy compromise that could be discussed with High Command. I'm gonna be real honest here and we all know this. Bread and MattO are very reasonable people. Talk to them, discuss this with them as this is something they can EASILY fix without having to involve SMT. Here I'll do half the work for you: MattOminigo3#0749 E11 1LT []FORMER CI MAJOR[]Former MTF OMICRON-9 CAPTAIN[]Former Janitorial Low Command[]Former E11 HCMD[Former overseer of D4,Former experimental, Former E4]"The fuck is a ethics committee?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The CI Zero Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/29/2020 at 11:46 AM, Coltable said: How about CI removes Trap expert and Mtf Removes Explosive Specialist........................................ Sounds like a better plan to me. (Leave demo-expert as its a donator job, cant remove that sadly) Rather go back to guns only combat than the shit we have now, Explosives have only caused the server/staff issues and while they can be fun to use from time to time those classes are heavily situational. CI Command Would be good with removing Trap Expert but i doubt foundation/mtf will. +Support since Omi9 got their explosive job back now CI has to put up with 2 new job slots with explosive weaponry, CI HCMD was fine with Nu7 buffing their explosive job as they had just lost e11/omi9 explosive jobs but now it feels like CI just got a good old slap to the face with the return of the omi9 explosive job. (The argument that Nu7's new load out on explosive specialist inst a buff is ridiculous, having multiple shots on a grenade launcher is better than 1, end of story) Coltable said it all +Support "𝘕𝘰 𝘐 𝘢𝘪𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘤𝘢𝘳𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯' '𝘊𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘪𝘵'𝘴 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘸𝘦'𝘷𝘦 𝘨𝘰𝘵 𝘞𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘣𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯' 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘪𝘧 𝘸𝘦 𝘢𝘪𝘯'𝘵 𝘭𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘯'?" -Retired CI MAJ Zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I'm gonna deny this, because something is in the works with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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