JeffTheSniper Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1. Questions How am I breaking the rules by driving and plating music 2. Your In-game: Jeff Assad 3. Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:102164614 4. The admin's name in-game: Assistant Chief Will 1k52 5. The admin's steam name (If you know it): Don't have it 6. What warning did you receive: NCWS 7. Evidence of the warn (REQUIRED): https://streamable.com/ky0chr 8. Why do you think this warn was false: I believe this warn is false because in the rules it says you can mic-spam music as a hobo but you must be stationary unless in a car. I was driving and playing music which last night Will told me not to do but I didn't find anything about driving and playing music for a hobo against the rules in the MOTD. I have looked countless times and I don't see how I am breaking the rules nor why I can't do it. You can see in the clip I run into will while playing music and then he gags and warns me for NCWS. I find this a false warn since in the rules it doesn't say anything about driving and playing music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~𝓢𝓞𝓤𝓛~ Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 +support the rules do say you can be a radio in a car. PD SM | SWAT LT | SL Consigliere MLG Pro Negev player #buffthenegev2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tEDDY34 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 +Support Doesn't say hobo drivers can't mic spam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head of Staff Will Posted December 13, 2020 Head of Staff Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) -Support I had a very long discussion with you in PM's about this on Friday saying that you can mic spam while in a vehicle, however you can not be the one driving while you are micspamming. Rules state very clearly that you must be stationary in order to micspam, meaning you are not moving. While yes, it does say you can mic spam while inside a vehicle, you would break the whole no moving rule if you were the one controlling the movements of the car, or "driving" is what you may hear it referred to as. If anything, this would be a form of exploiting, which while a very minor form of it could still lead to a ban. I gave you verbal warnings through PMs the day prior and you acknowledged them by messaging me back, yet I find you doing the same exact thing the next day. Seems like a valid warning in my mind. Edited December 13, 2020 by Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTheSniper Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 I'd like to see specifically where it says in the rules that I cant play music while driving. No matter what seat you are in, you are still moving including the driver. Under your logic you consider the driver to not be moving . I would agree with you if it said that in the MOTD but it doesn't. It states "Hobos may mic-spam music and music only. You must be stationary to play music. You are not allowed to mic-spam outside of buildings to annoy the inhabitants. However you may play music in vehicles. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniEpic Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, Will said: -Support I had a very long discussion with you in PM's about this on Friday saying that you can mic spam while in a vehicle, however you can not be the one driving while you are micspamming. Rules state very clearly that you must be stationary in order to micspam, meaning you are not moving. While yes, it does say you can mic spam while inside a vehicle, you would break the whole no moving rule if you were the one controlling the movements of the car, or "driving" is what you may hear it referred to as. If anything, this would be a form of exploiting, which while a very minor form of it could still lead to a ban. I gave you verbal warnings through PMs the day prior and you acknowledged them by messaging me back, yet I find you doing the same exact thing the next day. Seems like a valid warning in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 49 minutes ago, Will said: -Support I had a very long discussion with you in PM's about this on Friday saying that you can mic spam while in a vehicle, however you can not be the one driving while you are micspamming. Rules state very clearly that you must be stationary in order to micspam, meaning you are not moving. While yes, it does say you can mic spam while inside a vehicle, you would break the whole no moving rule if you were the one controlling the movements of the car, or "driving" is what you may hear it referred to as. If anything, this would be a form of exploiting, which while a very minor form of it could still lead to a ban. I gave you verbal warnings through PMs the day prior and you acknowledged them by messaging me back, yet I find you doing the same exact thing the next day. Seems like a valid warning in my mind. The rule broken was NCWS listen to them and this won’t happen |PD Captain|UMC LVL 2|Deputy Dispatch Director| "I love the rain" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Will said: -Support I had a very long discussion with you in PM's about this on Friday saying that you can mic spam while in a vehicle, however you can not be the one driving while you are micspamming. Rules state very clearly that you must be stationary in order to micspam, meaning you are not moving. While yes, it does say you can mic spam while inside a vehicle, you would break the whole no moving rule if you were the one controlling the movements of the car, or "driving" is what you may hear it referred to as. If anything, this would be a form of exploiting, which while a very minor form of it could still lead to a ban. I gave you verbal warnings through PMs the day prior and you acknowledged them by messaging me back, yet I find you doing the same exact thing the next day. Seems like a valid warning in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Raddish Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Will said: -Support I had a very long discussion with you in PM's about this on Friday saying that you can mic spam while in a vehicle, however you can not be the one driving while you are micspamming. Rules state very clearly that you must be stationary in order to micspam, meaning you are not moving. While yes, it does say you can mic spam while inside a vehicle, you would break the whole no moving rule if you were the one controlling the movements of the car, or "driving" is what you may hear it referred to as. If anything, this would be a form of exploiting, which while a very minor form of it could still lead to a ban. I gave you verbal warnings through PMs the day prior and you acknowledged them by messaging me back, yet I find you doing the same exact thing the next day. Seems like a valid warning in my mind. this ones iffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZE.. Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Will said: -Support I had a very long discussion with you in PM's about this on Friday saying that you can mic spam while in a vehicle, however you can not be the one driving while you are micspamming. Rules state very clearly that you must be stationary in order to micspam, meaning you are not moving. While yes, it does say you can mic spam while inside a vehicle, you would break the whole no moving rule if you were the one controlling the movements of the car, or "driving" is what you may hear it referred to as. If anything, this would be a form of exploiting, which while a very minor form of it could still lead to a ban. I gave you verbal warnings through PMs the day prior and you acknowledged them by messaging me back, yet I find you doing the same exact thing the next day. Seems like a valid warning in my mind. SPRT Staff SGT OG SGT State MSTRSGT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTheSniper Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 I'd understand if the rule was an actually thing listed in the MOTD but it doesn't say I can't drive and play. Just because you have a long talk about a rule that doesn't exist and tell me not to do something that isn't against the rules in the MOTD should not mean I should get a warn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupremeChow Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 13 hours ago, tEDDY34 said: +Support Doesn't say hobo drivers can't mic spam need JMT/SMT clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTheSniper Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, SupremeChow said: need JMT/SMT clarification If it needs clarification then my warn should be removed and the MOTD updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag1c Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 -Support Jeff, if you don't comply with him, you can be warned. State Command | SPRT Commander | PoliceRP Super Admin | SS Agent | FBI Agent | Umbrella Corp Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTheSniper Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, Mag1c said: -Support Jeff, if you don't comply with him, you can be warned. I understand that but it's for a rule that doesn't exist so I shouldn't have been warned or talked to in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parry Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 +/- Support Rules say you can be micspaming if in a carBut if you didn't comply with him you can be warned I feel that this could both way but idk Best of Luck though! Its Parry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Newsom Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 14 hours ago, Will said: -Support I had a very long discussion with you in PM's about this on Friday saying that you can mic spam while in a vehicle, however you can not be the one driving while you are micspamming. Rules state very clearly that you must be stationary in order to micspam, meaning you are not moving. While yes, it does say you can mic spam while inside a vehicle, you would break the whole no moving rule if you were the one controlling the movements of the car, or "driving" is what you may hear it referred to as. If anything, this would be a form of exploiting, which while a very minor form of it could still lead to a ban. I gave you verbal warnings through PMs the day prior and you acknowledged them by messaging me back, yet I find you doing the same exact thing the next day. Seems like a valid warning in my mind. Ex PoliceRP- Senior Admin & Senior Event Team | Ex Support | Ex Fourm Diplomat | EX SWAT Commander | EX UMC Mercenary Leader | Ex OG General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime King Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 16 hours ago, Will said: -Support I had a very long discussion with you in PM's about this on Friday saying that you can mic spam while in a vehicle, however you can not be the one driving while you are micspamming. Rules state very clearly that you must be stationary in order to micspam, meaning you are not moving. While yes, it does say you can mic spam while inside a vehicle, you would break the whole no moving rule if you were the one controlling the movements of the car, or "driving" is what you may hear it referred to as. If anything, this would be a form of exploiting, which while a very minor form of it could still lead to a ban. I gave you verbal warnings through PMs the day prior and you acknowledged them by messaging me back, yet I find you doing the same exact thing the next day. Seems like a valid warning in my mind. Retired FBI Director|$2,000Donator gang|UMC LVL 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 - support If you driving then your not stationary so its a valid warn there if your in a car as a passenger then that's a different story this is my opinion Retired Great Lake Side Police Deputy Chief of Police| Reserve PD Col | Rouge 141 operative| Harry Duke Member| Previous Senior Admin| Previous US Core VCMDR/ US Drill Instructors Commander/ US Military Police Chief/ Spetnaz Reserve 1LT. US GFH25 Delta Force Operative Chairman Designation A259 - SCO19 Chief Superintendent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDerick Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 19 hours ago, Will said: -Support I had a very long discussion with you in PM's about this on Friday saying that you can mic spam while in a vehicle, however you can not be the one driving while you are micspamming. Rules state very clearly that you must be stationary in order to micspam, meaning you are not moving. While yes, it does say you can mic spam while inside a vehicle, you would break the whole no moving rule if you were the one controlling the movements of the car, or "driving" is what you may hear it referred to as. If anything, this would be a form of exploiting, which while a very minor form of it could still lead to a ban. I gave you verbal warnings through PMs the day prior and you acknowledged them by messaging me back, yet I find you doing the same exact thing the next day. Seems like a valid warning in my mind. Derick | Gaminglight Member Since 2016 | FBI Deputy Director Derick RA3 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerg Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 12/13/2020 at 3:16 AM, Will said: -Support I had a very long discussion with you in PM's about this on Friday saying that you can mic spam while in a vehicle, however you can not be the one driving while you are micspamming. Rules state very clearly that you must be stationary in order to micspam, meaning you are not moving. While yes, it does say you can mic spam while inside a vehicle, you would break the whole no moving rule if you were the one controlling the movements of the car, or "driving" is what you may hear it referred to as. If anything, this would be a form of exploiting, which while a very minor form of it could still lead to a ban. I gave you verbal warnings through PMs the day prior and you acknowledged them by messaging me back, yet I find you doing the same exact thing the next day. Seems like a valid warning in my mind. this is kind of iffy just because it does say they can play music in cars it just doesn't say they can/can't be driving. But, since he did tell you to stop prior then it would be a warning for NCWS PoliceRP SMT | Head Admin | Head Of Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffTheSniper Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Zerg said: this is kind of iffy just because it does say they can play music in cars it just doesn't say they can/can't be driving. But, since he did tell you to stop prior then it would be a warning for NCWS He told me to stop doing something that isn't listed in the rules which is why I think my warn should be removed and the MOTD updated or looked at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah REmiX Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 12/13/2020 at 3:48 PM, Mag1c said: -Support Jeff, if you don't comply with him, you can be warned. I'm not sure if the rule is you can't drive while mic spamming but you still didn't listen to him. You also didn't get warned for mic spam so I don't see how this is a valid false warn. You still failed to comply with staff. PD CPL | FBI SA | DEA ASAC | DEA FTO | SS SO | Scythes Of Paradise Lord “People will do you wrong over and over, but the one time you call them out your suddenly the bad guy.” - Juice WRLD "Yesterday, today was tomorrow. And tomorrow, today will be yesterday." - George Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 +report, didnt break no rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy James Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 We have clarified this rule in the MOTD. As a hobo you are allowed to play music in the driver's seat of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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