General Suggestion - Addition of new Comms - Accepted

[Jameshi34]

What are you suggesting? - The addition of new comms unique to Security.

How would this change better the server? - Gensec is in need of their own, private comms, like MTF, CI, and Utility. Instead of making /security a Security only thing, I think adding new comms would be more beneficial for Gensec. I was thinking it could be /gs for GenSec. We've spoken to a couple MTF about this and they have a few good points, as do we, so this is the compromise.

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - None

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Gensec

[pixalgamer99]

Why do you need your own comms medical and maintenance has /utility they don’t need /med and /main why does MTF need too be banished from a comms type too protect the base it’s MTF just share your comms with them why 

also /utility is for both branch’s not just one it’s not exactly a private comms 

so -support generally uneeded

[Jameshi34]

4 minutes ago, pixalgamer99 said:

Why do you need your own comms medical and maintenance has /utility they don’t need /med and /main why does MTF need too be banished from a comms type too protect the base it’s MTF just share your comms with them why 

also /utility is for both branch’s not just one it’s not exactly a private comms 

so -support generally uneeded

MTF would have /security to talk with gensec in, gensec would have /gs to talk to themselves, and MTF has /mtf. No one's being banished from anything here..

[Beepis]

+ Support

It would be nice if MTF didnt know what we were up to

[Sixx]

+Support

. Clearer Communication between all of Security and Wardens

. Helps clear members of MTF chat box

. New General Communication channel for all the combatant branches can benefit everyone

~HOS Sixx

[Kindred]

26 minutes ago, Sixx said:

+Support

. Clearer Communication between all of Security and Wardens

. Helps clear members of MTF chat box

. New General Communication channel for all the combatant branches can benefit everyone

~HOS Sixx

Wardens and Security would be able to communicate much more efficiently if they had their own communications, also there are certain things they could communicate between each other without including everyone unnecessarily. As wardens will most likely be in the wardens operations in teamspeak.

Keeping a comms between Security and Mobile Task Force will ensure that communications would not be lost and will prevent any intel to be intercepted by hostiles.

Dr. Maynard wouldn't be able to intercept communications between Security/Wardens or Mobile Task Force, this would be very problematic as Dr. Maynard could warn them or give out strategies, locations, and statuses.

 

This would create more incentive for GENSEC to use their own personal communications in order to secure LCZ more efficiently, and would also improve communications between MTF and GENSEC/Wardens so that MTF isn't booted out entirely and we'd compromise information being intercepted when attempting to contact GENSEC through foundation comms.

 

+Support

[pixalgamer99]

Ok so your saying that you can communicate much more efficiently but how the only difference is you change a comms too hid stuff from MTF

Edited November 17, 2020 by pixalgamer99

[Spud]

2 hours ago, Sixx said:

 

+Support

. Clearer Communication between all of Security and Wardens

. Helps clear members of MTF chat box

. New General Communication channel for all the combatant branches can benefit everyone

 

+Support

This way we can both have private comms and MTF can communicate with us. Works for me.

[Gunther]

Oh I thought this was asking for Security comms to become /gs cause everyone else has a short command, /mtf, /f, /ci, etc. 

+Support, yea that makes a lot of sense.

[Jameshi34]

56 minutes ago, pixalgamer99 said:

Ok so your saying that you can communicate much more efficiently but how the only difference is you change a comms too hid stuff from MTF

Riddle me this: Why does MTF have private comms if they can use /security to communicate between themselves? It's because it's easier for all parties to not have to dabble in each other's issues unless requested. Also, we're not changing existing comms, we're asking for an entire new comms be added, /gs, nothing else has to be changed.

Edited November 17, 2020 by Jameshi34

[APE]

4 hours ago, Sixx said:

+Support

. Clearer Communication between all of Security and Wardens

. Helps clear members of MTF chat box

. New General Communication channel for all the combatant branches can benefit everyone

~HOS Sixx

 

[General bacon]

4 hours ago, Sixx said:

+Support

. Clearer Communication between all of Security and Wardens

. Helps clear members of MTF chat box

. New General Communication channel for all the combatant branches can benefit everyone

~HOS Sixx

 

[Jack S]

5 hours ago, Sixx said:

+Support

. Clearer Communication between all of Security and Wardens

. Helps clear members of MTF chat box

. New General Communication channel for all the combatant branches can benefit everyone

~HOS Sixx

 

[Some Weeb]

-support

This still seems mostly unneeded idk 

I think the current comms are fine and if you want private comms use radio 

[pixalgamer99]

7 hours ago, Jameshi34 said:

Riddle me this: Why does MTF have private comms if they can use /security to communicate between themselves? It's because it's easier for all parties to not have to dabble in each other's issues unless requested. Also, we're not changing existing comms, we're asking for an entire new comms be added, /gs, nothing else has to be changed.

So they don’t tell a gensec OFC about something like capturing of CI or an interrogation so the OFC can’t minge and MTF can communicate better, but you don’t need too communicate “better” because your wardens should be talking too MTF already, it’s like me asking for private medical comms is it needed no not at all do I semi want it yes I do, is it a waste yes absolutely, does CI have private comms for military and RND no because why would they need to keep stuff from RND they should be working together with RND

Edited November 17, 2020 by pixalgamer99

[[GL] Zeus]

51 minutes ago, pixalgamer99 said:

So they don’t tell a gensec OFC about something like capturing of CI or an interrogation so the OFC can’t minge and MTF can communicate better, but you don’t need too communicate “better” because your wardens should be talking too MTF already, it’s like me asking for private medical comms is it needed no not at all do I semi want it yes I do, is it a waste yes absolutely, does CI have private comms for military and RND no because why would they need to keep stuff from RND they should be working together with RND

I mean he does have a point with regards to RnD and Military.
I would +support this on the condition that Branch HCMD can access the new /gs comms

[Eaten]

12 hours ago, Sixx said:

+Support

. Clearer Communication between all of Security and Wardens

. Helps clear members of MTF chat box

. New General Communication channel for all the combatant branches can benefit everyone

~HOS Sixx

 

[Southpaw]

It would make sense for GENSEC to have their own coms as MTF has their own coms. I can see it working out well

+support

[APE]

5 hours ago, pixalgamer99 said:

So they don’t tell a gensec OFC about something like capturing of CI or an interrogation so the OFC can’t minge and MTF can communicate better, but you don’t need too communicate “better” because your wardens should be talking too MTF already, it’s like me asking for private medical comms is it needed no not at all do I semi want it yes I do, is it a waste yes absolutely, does CI have private comms for military and RND no because why would they need to keep stuff from RND they should be working together with RND

Wardens have their own operations within the facility that don’t have to do with MTF. Wardens are soon to be able to interrogate CI under the circumstance where there is HSU on. Not all matters within LCZ require MTF and outside assistance, so they don’t need to know about it. Just like how mtf will advert a breached SCP, and then talk on their own comms about specifics. If we have a d-class CC that got past our enlisted, we aren’t going to call mtf. We are going to say it on our own comms. An MTF branch commander and the SITE DIRECTOR just said they would be down for it. Nobody else here is thinking the same way as you, there is zero reason to deny this besides personal bias and typical old fashioned anti-security MTF dogma from an age long past. You don’t want security to have cool things, I get it. But this isn’t a “cool thing.” It’s something that will benefit security and stop clogging foundation comms. There is 0.00 harm done by adding this. 

Edited November 17, 2020 by APE

[Phillers]

+support, some say its not needed but I think it'd be good for Security. 

[pixalgamer99]

26 minutes ago, APE said:

Wardens have their own operations within the facility that don’t have to do with MTF. Wardens are soon to be able to interrogate CI under the circumstance where there is HSU on. Not all matters within LCZ require MTF and outside assistance, so they don’t need to know about it. Just like how mtf will advert a breached SCP, and then talk on their own comms about specifics. If we have a d-class CC that got past our enlisted, we aren’t going to call mtf. We are going to say it on our own comms. An MTF branch commander just said he’s down for it as long as MTF HCMD can see the comms; which is something I think is fine. Nobody else here is thinking the same way as you, there is zero reason to deny this besides personal bias and typical old fashioned anti-security MTF dogma from an age long past. You don’t want security to have cool things, I get it. But this isn’t a “cool thing.” It’s something that will benefit security and stop clogging foundation comms. There is 0.00 harm done by adding this. 

Ok when you say you have stuff that doesn’t involve CI 

medical and maintenance uses /utility and we have near nothing too do with each other only needing one another on rare occasions 

CI uses /CI but both sides have operations that don’t involve the other side

now a point I just thought about is /cmd we have that comms but is it used, rarely so rare I didn’t know it existed until FWS 

By adding in another pointless comms your just gonna lower the usage of another comms

and does not calling MTF when there is a problem help, no it only hurts you overall because now the MTF are gonna not expect the D class CC in HCZ 

and why does Wardens getting the ability too interrogate have too do with anything so MTF can’t protect the room when CI raids again

and trying too use the sentence “a personal bias” too defraud my point doesn’t make any sense why would I have a personal bias I only think it’s not needed so why get something if it’s gonna either not get used or make something else not get used because your used too one thing not the other 

also if someone else thought it was uneeded then the point of nobody else is thinking this way but you is invalid 

Edited November 17, 2020 by pixalgamer99

[Mind Stone]

+Support

I like that we get to keep a combatant comms. Everybody wins. 

[Raven1175]

+support

[Right Twix Bar]

+Support

I feel it's only fair Gensec gets their own personal comms.

12 hours ago, pixalgamer99 said:

By adding in another pointless comms your just gonna lower the usage of another comms

and does not calling MTF when there is a problem help, no it only hurts you overall because now the MTF are gonna not expect the D class CC in HCZ 

Also, if Gensec needs to say something to Gensec/MTF, they'll use /security. If they wanna say something only Gensec needs to know, they'll use /gs.

Also also, D-Class outside of D-Block are usually called in using Foundation comms more often than not.

[pixalgamer99]

6 hours ago, Right Twix Bar said:

+Support

I feel it's only fair Gensec gets their own personal comms.

Also, if Gensec needs to say something to Gensec/MTF, they'll use /security. If they wanna say something only Gensec needs to know, they'll use /gs.

Also also, D-Class outside of D-Block are usually called in using Foundation comms more often than not.

But what is there that MTF does not need too know, all I can think of is a get too D block or announcing a PT or tryout anything else and MTF should at least be notified in case it gets out of hand 

if you lose D block your gonna use /f or /security most likely /f

what I meant when I said the last part is they said they were not gonna talk too MTF about a D class CC that got past D block