Lordswagalot93 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Post name: Explosive Classes in dblock What are you suggesting? - Allow all MTF explosive jobs to enter dblock on the condition they do not use their explosives. If they do use their explosives they should be warned for fail RP. How would this change better the server? - This change would better the server by making MTF and Gensec better able to do their jobs. Leading to RP related branches able to RP in peace. Ci and sarkics can use their explosives in dblock, why not let any MTF into Dblock period. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - The balance of dblock could be thrown off by the addition of 1-2 extra MTF. Who would this change mostly benefit? - MTF and Gensec, instead of having 2 explosive specialists standing outside dblock they could be inside helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General bacon Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 +Support No reason why not Retired MTF Nu7 LTCOL| Retired Nu7 HFTO | Retired OH1 | Retired Admin | French Canadian ManCustom Classes: Raptor Team | Jeff the killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Romeo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 +SupportI personally play on the MTF Nu-7 Explosive Specialist (Level 65+) Job quite frequently, and usually over the Regular Nu-7 jobs, and when an SCP is self breaching and needs to be feed I am not allowed to go grab a D Class for myself so I need other people to do it for me, which is quite Annoying especially when I am already in LCZ, and everyone else is in EZ or HCZ. Imperial RP] Ex-Gamemaster| Ex-Starfighter Corps. Officer| Ex-Onyx Squad Officer| Ex-Inferno Squad Squadron Leader| Ex-Shadow Guard Officer VII| INO Chad. SCP RP] Retired-Nu7 1st Lieutenant| Ex-GENSEC Master Sergeant and Junior Warden| Retired-Chaos Insurgency 1st Lieutenant| Zeta-19| Epic Payday Gang(2nd ever)| Ex-A1 Guardian| Ex-Event Team Member."You are a quarter of a million strong, and you shoot well, but what if I showed of with 500,000 men? What would you do?" -Kaiser Wilhelm II "We would shoot twice, and we'd go home" -Swiss Militiaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack S Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) +/ -Support Mass RDM City, we do not need that in D-block, D-block is very small. I do not want my OFCs dying since you want to shoot a grenade launcher in D-block. Edit: I know without use of explosives, but you can misclick with it and kill everyone. Edit 2: I'd be fine with you going in and grabbing a D-class, but just not being allowed to go in there with the intention of combat. Edited November 16, 2020 by [GL] loudyfam (Jack S) Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) I'd like to know what GENSEC thinks about this first. (EDITED) +Support Allow them to go inside ONLY when grabbing Class-D. -Support They shouldn't be inside of D-Block for any other reason. Edited November 19, 2020 by Kindred Former | Nu-7 'Hammer-Down' Lieutenant Colonel | Head of Field Experts | Special Forces: Hammer and Sickle (Commissar Apollo) | ECRS, ERS, EBHM | Interim Head of FTOs Former | Maintenance Adept | MMF JAN 1 (Fabuloso) | Containment Specialist | FTO Former | Special Forces: 'Red Right Hand' OH4 (Kindred) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Romeo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Just now, [GL] loudyfam (Jack S) said: Massive -Support Mass RDM City, we do not need that in D-block, D-block is very small. I do not want my OFCs dying since you want to shoot a grenade launcher in D-block. 9 minutes ago, Lordswagalot93 said: on the condition they do not use their explosives. If they do use their explosives they should be warned for fail RP. Read the entire thing Imperial RP] Ex-Gamemaster| Ex-Starfighter Corps. Officer| Ex-Onyx Squad Officer| Ex-Inferno Squad Squadron Leader| Ex-Shadow Guard Officer VII| INO Chad. SCP RP] Retired-Nu7 1st Lieutenant| Ex-GENSEC Master Sergeant and Junior Warden| Retired-Chaos Insurgency 1st Lieutenant| Zeta-19| Epic Payday Gang(2nd ever)| Ex-A1 Guardian| Ex-Event Team Member."You are a quarter of a million strong, and you shoot well, but what if I showed of with 500,000 men? What would you do?" -Kaiser Wilhelm II "We would shoot twice, and we'd go home" -Swiss Militiaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack S Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Echo Romeo said: Read the entire thing I did, I disagree. 6 minutes ago, Echo Romeo said: an SCP is self breaching and needs to be feed I am not allowed to go grab a D Class for myself so I need other people to do it for me, which is quite Annoying especially when I am already in LCZ Ask NCOs to prepare a D-class. Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Stone Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) +Support Like you said, as long as no explosives are used I'll allow it. Specific guidelines would need to be in place for when they can enter and who can request them in. Other than that sounds good! Edit: +/-Support (leaning towards -Support) There are quite the few cons that at time didn't come to mind. I'm seeing that if someone were to misclick, lots of GenSec would die which outweighs the pros. I would be a cool idea but no matter what you can't fix user error. Edited November 16, 2020 by Mind Stone Retired LCZ Manager : Pingas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 -Support 1 Miss click and the entire GenSec defense line is dead. If you want to enter D-Block, then play on your normal job. Also on multiple occasion, certain people like to get the C4 on your job and pretend to arm it and scare some GenSec. Theres a lot of potential for a huge accident. [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameshi34 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mind Stone said: +Support Like you said, as long as no explosives are used I'll allow it. Specific guidelines would need to be in place for when they can enter and who can request them in. Other than that sounds good! This has the potential to be a good idea, but it seems to me the cons outweigh the pros. -Support Gensec LTCOL | Deputy Head Warden | S.T.A.R.S. | Michael Jones Enthusiast do you are have stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 39 minutes ago, Lordswagalot93 said: Ci and sarkics can use their explosives in dblock CI trap experts can enter d-block because they are meant to kill GENSEC and MTF. I don't see a point of letting explosive specialists into d-block if they cannot use their explosives, just get on your normal job then. Furthermore, if an incident happens, it would only trouble GENSEC and MTF HCMD. 1 osu! achiever? I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie_Gaming Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 53 minutes ago, General bacon said: +Support No reason why not 32 minutes ago, Mind Stone said: +Support Like you said, as long as no explosives are used I'll allow it. Specific guidelines would need to be in place for when they can enter and who can request them in. Other than that sounds good! Supreme Leader Cookie Ex Admin Old GENSEC SM OLD ACCOUNT- Cookie__Gaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 32 minutes ago, Sixx said: -Support 1 Miss click and the entire GenSec defense line is dead. If you want to enter D-Block, then play on your normal job. Also on multiple occasion, certain people like to get the C4 on your job and pretend to arm it and scare some GenSec. Theres a lot of potential for a huge accident. Deputy Head of Security | Executive Event Team | Admin | Forum Diplomat | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spud Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Mind Stone said: +/-Support (leaning towards -Support) There are quite the few cons that at time didn't come to mind. I'm seeing that if someone were to misclick, lots of GenSec would die which outweighs the pros. I would be a cool idea but no matter what you can't fix user error. Yep -Support from me Armored Shield | Gensec MAJ | EWD | DHFTO | OPRF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APE Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sixx said: -Support 1 Miss click and the entire GenSec defense line is dead. If you want to enter D-Block, then play on your normal job. Also on multiple occasion, certain people like to get the C4 on your job and pretend to arm it and scare some GenSec. Theres a lot of potential for a huge accident. Explosives is a weak class in armor and AP. They would be useless in DBlock without explosives, just go on your normal job. Edited November 16, 2020 by APE Ret. Security Colonel || Ret. Head Warden || D-Class High Council || Former MTF Alpha 1 'Red Right Hand' Juliette 69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordswagalot93 Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) Why is everyone basing there minus supports on one thing? What stops an explosive expert outside dblock from misclicking and killing gensec now? Everyone is basing there - support on something that would happen maybe once a month. Edit- Why make someone switch job just to do their job, no reason they cant just walk in adn grab a dclass, or use their AR to fight dclass. If someone likes the job they should not be forced to switch off. Edited November 16, 2020 by Lordswagalot93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooM Guy Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Sixx said: -Support 1 Miss click and the entire GenSec defense line is dead. If you want to enter D-Block, then play on your normal job. Also on multiple occasion, certain people like to get the C4 on your job and pretend to arm it and scare some GenSec. Theres a lot of potential for a huge accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagasaki Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) -Support Don't need explosives in D Block and having an accident could kill multiple people and have that MTF on an explosive class get punished for killing a lot of people -Security SFTO WO Hiroshima Edited November 16, 2020 by Nagasaki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, Nagasaki said: -Support Don't need explosives in D Block and having an accident could kill multiple people and have that MTF on an explosive class get punished for killing a lot of people -Security SFTO WO Hiroshima SCP-RP: G.O.C MAJ | Alpha-1 SGT 'Rose' | Strike Team Hammer 'Goose' | Event Team Member Retired: E11 LTCOL | Omi9 MAJ | Nu7 LTCOL | OH3 | Senior Mod | Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, Lordswagalot93 said: Why is everyone basing there minus supports on one thing? What stops an explosive expert outside dblock from misclicking and killing gensec now? Everyone is basing there - support on something that would happen maybe once a month. Edit- Why make someone switch job just to do their job, no reason they cant just walk in adn grab a dclass, or use their AR to fight dclass. If someone likes the job they should not be forced to switch off. Risk > Reward [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixalgamer99 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, Lordswagalot93 said: Why is everyone basing there minus supports on one thing? What stops an explosive expert outside dblock from misclicking and killing gensec now? Everyone is basing there - support on something that would happen maybe once a month. Edit- Why make someone switch job just to do their job, no reason they cant just walk in adn grab a dclass, or use their AR to fight dclass. If someone likes the job they should not be forced to switch off. Well it’s not like explosive classes are the only one who can’t enter D block all of E11 is not allowed in and that’s an entire branch I think they can deal with one class not being able too do it -support the system works no need for change if it will cause an uneeded problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Sixx said: -Support 1 Miss click and the entire GenSec defense line is dead. If you want to enter D-Block, then play on your normal job. Also on multiple occasion, certain people like get the C4 on your job and pretend to arm it and scare some GenSec. Theres a lot of potential for a huge accident. -Support Also just hear me out. The entire point of explosive classes is to use explosives, so I don’t see any advantage here by taking away that ability. Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabbo Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 -Support It will just end up in more RDM sits then explosive specialists already get due to friendly fire and crossfire with grenades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I know the Demo Expert is allowed in, last I checked, but not the Explosives Specialist. I'm going to give this two types of support. +Support on the allowance of being in D-Class, such as for grabbing D-Class, or standing by while escorting BUT, -Support on allowing combat, because while I'm sure the Explosives Specialist is competent enough not to throw a C4, you just never know. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Sixx said: -Support 1 Miss click and the entire GenSec defense line is dead. If you want to enter D-Block, then play on your normal job. Also on multiple occasion, certain people like to get the C4 on your job and pretend to arm it and scare some GenSec. Theres a lot of potential for a huge accident. 2 hours ago, Crabbo said: -Support It will just end up in more RDM sits then explosive specialists already get due to friendly fire and crossfire with grenades. 2 hours ago, [GL] Zeus said: -Support Also just hear me out. The entire point of explosive classes is to use explosives, so I don’t see any advantage here by taking away that ability. Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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