humphrey Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 What are you suggesting? - Removing riot shields from all Class-D loadouts, including custom classes How would this change better the server? - Dbois spawning with guns stretches the bounds of realism a little bit, but it's plausible that Class-D could obtain firearms. Riot shields, on the other hand, are completely unrealistic. There's no way an actual prisoner would be able to acquire and conceal a riot shield without raising alarm. But that's just the RP, realism side of it. Where it goes completely off the rails is the power in which it grants Dbois in PVP. Class-D can push through anybody with a gun because of how effective the riot shields are. A Class-D with a riot shield working with 1-2 armed Dbois could effectively take D-Block from any force guarding it. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Dbois wouldn't be able to overrun GENSEC as easily. Who would this change mostly benefit? - GENSEC trying to stop an organized group of Class-D possessing military grade gear My friends call me Cheddar, but you can call me Cheese. Joe Dirt 4 Lyf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) +/- Ima be honest, it only happens so much cause gensec isnt exactly uuhhhhhh "trained well" plus 2 cc's with r8 revolvers basically 2 shot ya ofc's and LCPL so Edited June 25, 2020 by Comrade Boekhom 1 Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I'm pretty sure its a bug SMT overlooked when implementing the Brute, since that's the only class it spawns on. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Gunther said: I'm pretty sure its a bug SMT overlooked when implementing the Brute, since that's the only class it spawns on. this also may be true Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, humphrey said: Dbois spawning with guns stretches the bounds of realism a little bit, but it's plausible that Class-D could obtain firearms. Riot shields, on the other hand, are completely unrealistic. Um, I don't know about that chief. D-Class with Pistols and SMGs, Hammers, Bats, Hatchets, LOADS of knives, Keypad Crackers, Armor, and Scythes are probably just as, if not equal to, the lack of realism. Edited June 25, 2020 by Gunther Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humphrey Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Gunther said: Um, I don't know about that chief. you were supposed to say +support 2 My friends call me Cheddar, but you can call me Cheese. Joe Dirt 4 Lyf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, humphrey said: you were supposed to say +support Didn't say I was supporting, while I know its just a bug and will be fixed, doesn't mean I don't like having the shield as a D-Class for the time being. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangiatea Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 this is more of a bug report then a suggestion id say, also its already set to be done 1 "A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangiatea Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 32 minutes ago, TWIX said: Bro why is that gensec need to always think D-Class should always need to be nerferd smh. I mean its not meant to be even tbh Gensec should have a good advantage 2 "A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabbo Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, TWIX said: Bro why is that gensec need to always think D-Class should always need to be nerferd smh. Gensec are supposed to have the advantage in firepower and training. On the other side Dclass do not need to wait NLR and can constantly swarm security making them unable to heal or simply overwhelming them. Dclass are powerful if played right, Same as with gensec. Nerfing dclass would make sense due to how many times a dclass can throw themselves at security meanwhile they are waiting NLR. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, TWIX said: Bro why is that gensec need to always think D-Class should always need to be nerferd smh. You can take over d block if you are good with the guns given to you, it’s really not that hard. On top of that Gensec have NLR. The riot shield shouldn’t be on d class as it is an outrageous RP advantage. Regardless it’s already being worked on. 1 Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 This happens with new class additions IDK if alot of y'all are old enough on the server but back when d-class Escape Artist came out it had riot shield and the falcon on it Was Nu7 2LT Shot Once Was a Nu7 MSGT also was a CI Captain once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakub Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 18 hours ago, Gunther said: I'm pretty sure its a bug SMT overlooked when implementing the Brute, since that's the only class it spawns on. riotshields are disabled on all classes besides this one 1 Ex E11 COL, Ex A1 MAJ, Ex AHOTS, Ex Security 2LT, Ex Admin. Current CI 2LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mint Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) -Support Edited June 26, 2020 by Mint 1 MTF Nu7 Major || E11 1LT || Old CI SGT || Ret.LeadResearcher || || RHO-36 Penumbra Squad || || Mikes Favorite Son || OH3 RRH || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry S. Plinkett Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 5:36 AM, TWIX said: Bro why is that gensec need to always think D-Class should always need to be nerferd smh. I don't think Ive ever seen a single D-Class in EZ since early 2019 when we still have crafting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Gensec are suppose to be able to overpower D-Class. They both have their own advantages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry S. Plinkett Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Propane said: Gensec are suppose to be able to overpower D-Class. They both have their own advantages I guess its a good thing D-Class is damn near useless then. I'm wondering in what world a D Class has an advantage over a walking tank, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinnik Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 14 hours ago, Harry S. Plinkett said: I guess its a good thing D-Class is damn near useless then. I'm wondering in what world a D Class has an advantage over a walking tank, though. This world. D-class often have numbers on GENSEC and no NLR (except for d-class CCs). That's their advantage. Regardless. +Support - this is already on the list to be removed from the Brute class, but I think it should be added to the MOTD for D-Class CCs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry S. Plinkett Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Sinnik said: This world. D-class often have numbers on GENSEC and no NLR (except for d-class CCs). That's their advantage. Regardless. +Support - this is already on the list to be removed from the Brute class, but I think it should be added to the MOTD for D-Class CCs as well. Yes, a 24,000dpm weapon cannot stop 6 D classes with fists. This makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Sinnik said: This world. D-class often have numbers on GENSEC and no NLR (except for d-class CCs). That's their advantage. Regardless. +Support - this is already on the list to be removed from the Brute class, but I think it should be added to the MOTD for D-Class CCs as well. "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack (utility one) Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 +support Considering this was a bug I'm a little surprised this isn't removed, locked, or moved to accepted since again D-class aren't supposed to have it. There are gods in Alabama: Jack Daniel's, high school quarterbacks, trucks, big tits, and also Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 On 6/27/2020 at 4:20 PM, Jack (utility one) said: +support Considering this was a bug I'm a little surprised this isn't removed, locked, or moved to accepted since again D-class aren't supposed to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 This should be a bug report and it should already be in the process of being fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Accepted! Please allow up to a week for any suggestions you have requested to be added in game or on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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