Maynard need his level 4 back - Denied

[October]

What you want to see? - Give Maynard back his level 4 keycard

Why should we add it? - Maynard used to have a level 4 and there’s no point in not giving it to him. In lore he’s a level 4 foundation doctor, and the existence of a level 4 keycard will allow him to show it to MTF (should they metagame). 

What are the advantages of having this? - Really it just makes sense, there’s no advantage to lowering his keycard to a 3. I remember when he had a level 4 and the only new room that he could access was the torture room. I think it would also help to get people to treat him in RP as a foundation doctor. 

Who is it mainly for? - CI/Maynard

Links to any content - N/A

[Phillers]

+/- Support, a level 4 keycard doesn't actualy grant acces to anything on the site i dont believe, so it'd be kinda useless, but on the other side it might be good to show ID to MTF?

 

-Support, this would allow Maynard to enter the PK room whenever a CI is captured.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Falxen

[Jakub]

+support clearly isn't role play friendly if he doesn't have it, won't affect gameplay that much at all, and if it does it'll be for the better. 

[Gunther]

23 minutes ago, Falxen said:

+/- Support, a level 4 keycard doesn't actualy grant acces to anything on the site i dont believe, so it'd be kinda useless, but on the other side it might be good to show ID to MTF?

 

[[GL] Zeus]

46 minutes ago, Jakub said:

+support clearly isn't role play friendly if he doesn't have it, won't affect gameplay that much at all, and if it does it'll be for the better. 

 

[Bionicle]

3 hours ago, Jakub said:

+support clearly isn't role play friendly if he doesn't have it, won't affect gameplay that much at all, and if it does it'll be for the better. 

 

[Chief_]

4 hours ago, Falxen said:

+/- Support, a level 4 keycard doesn't actualy grant acces to anything on the site i dont believe, so it'd be kinda useless, but on the other side it might be good to show ID to MTF?

 

-Support, this would allow Maynard to enter the PK room whenever a CI is captured.

 

[a frog]

5 hours ago, Jakub said:

+support clearly isn't role play friendly if he doesn't have it, won't affect gameplay that much at all, and if it does it'll be for the better. 

 

5 hours ago, Falxen said:

+/- Support, a level 4 keycard doesn't actualy grant acces to anything on the site i dont believe, so it'd be kinda useless, but on the other side it might be good to show ID to MTF?

 

-Support, this would allow Maynard to enter the PK room whenever a CI is captured.

I mean it isnt unrealistic for a member of ci whos pretending to be a high level researcher to see what they are doing to a fellow ci in a pk room and he would have access anyway since hes a level 4 researcher in lore 

[Jakub]

5 hours ago, Falxen said:

+/- Support, a level 4 keycard doesn't actualy grant acces to anything on the site i dont believe, so it'd be kinda useless, but on the other side it might be good to show ID to MTF?

 

-Support, this would allow Maynard to enter the PK room whenever a CI is captured.

so because it give someone an upper hand rp should be ignored?

wow this server really is a tdm with an rp theme

[Phillers]

1 minute ago, Jakub said:

so because it give someone an upper hand rp should be ignored?

wow this server really is a tdm with an rp theme

Its a matter of balance,  it wouldn't be fair if whenever MTF captured a CI maynard could just pop in with a sawed off and shoot the hostage, go on NLR, and be finished with the matter.

[Jakub]

Just now, Falxen said:

Its a matter of balance,  it wouldn't be fair if whenever MTF captured a CI maynard could just pop in with a sawed off and shoot the hostage, go on NLR, and be finished with the matter.

tdm>rp ?

[Neo]

5 hours ago, Falxen said:

-Support, this would allow Maynard to enter the PK room whenever a CI is captured.

This guys is a genius.

8 minutes ago, Falxen said:

Its a matter of balance,  it wouldn't be fair if whenever MTF captured a CI maynard could just pop in with a sawed off and shoot the hostage, go on NLR, and be finished with the matter.

It's almost like 6 MTF can't stop a researcher when they are guarding PK room.

[Phillers]

4 minutes ago, Neo said:

This guys is a genius.

It's almost like 6 MTF can't stop a researcher when they are guarding PK room.

Oh im not saying that they cant, im just saying that they cant do it before the researcher would have shot whomever they were guarding.

[Neo]

15 minutes ago, Falxen said:

Oh im not saying that they cant,

Then I don't see the problem here.

[Fool]

+Support 

Would make sense

and oh no maynard can walk in pk room and kill hostage oh no

[October]

7 hours ago, Falxen said:

Support, this would allow Maynard to enter the PK room whenever a CI is captured.

And? As I recall from my time in A1, during interrogations there are guards posted inside and outside. It’s not like Maynard has the ability to kill 5-8 MTF as he’s a 100hp 50armor class. 

[Sparkle]

+Support

A counter to a xyz situation can always be made. A level 4 card doesn't really give access to much more.

2 hours ago, Fool said:

oh no maynard can walk in pk room and kill hostage oh no

Including this cause funny.

[Phillers]

16 hours ago, October said:

And? As I recall from my time in A1, during interrogations there are guards posted inside and outside. It’s not like Maynard has the ability to kill 5-8 MTF as he’s a 100hp 50armor class. 

Thats not my issue with it, its the fact that a Maynard can shoot the 1 person they are interrogating, which can be done a fair amount of time with rush tactics seeing as how the hostage will likely be on lowered HP. Maynard will definetely be shot afterwards, but yaknow, NLR isn't that bad. 

If there were rules against doing sometthing like this within CI SOP, i'd be more then willing to agree with it, however as of current all i see is a major downside for what i can only see as Maynard's wanting to stop MTF by showing a darker shade of Keycard... which MTF most likely wont even bother to actualy read nearly all the time. 

[October]

10 minutes ago, Falxen said:

Thats not my issue with it, its the fact that a Maynard can shoot the 1 person they are interrogating, which can be done a fair amount of time with rush tactics seeing as how the hostage will likely be on lowered HP. Maynard will definetely be shot afterwards, but yaknow, NLR isn't that bad. 

If there were rules against doing sometthing like this within CI SOP, i'd be more then willing to agree with it, however as of current all i see is a major downside for what i can only see as Maynard's wanting to stop MTF by showing a darker shade of Keycard... which MTF most likely wont even bother to actualy read nearly all the time. 

I see what you’re saying, but Maynard probably won’t know within RP that a CI has been kidnapped, unless you announce over foundation comms. If Maynard knows that someone’s been kidnapped then at that point CI is also going to raid. 

Furthermore, considering that Maynard is a command restricted class you won’t see any minging on it. While I disagree with your sentiment that it should be added to the SOP prohibiting Maynard from rushing into the PK room, he’s a non-combat based class. His primary job is sending info to CI, so you’ll never see it happen regardless of if it’s in the SOP or not. 

[Phillers]

Just now, October said:

I see what you’re saying, but Maynard probably won’t know within RP that a CI has been kidnapped, unless you announce over foundation comms. If Maynard knows that someone’s been kidnapped then at that point CI is also going to raid. 

Furthermore, considering that Maynard is a command restricted class you won’t see any minging on it. While I disagree with your sentiment that it should be added to the SOP prohibiting Maynard from rushing into the PK room, he’s a non-combat based class. His primary job is sending info to CI, so you’ll never see it happen regardless of if it’s in the SOP or not. 

Aslong as CI trusts that the people on the class wont minge or metagame, then sure, but i really hope the situations i just said wont happen because otherwise it'd be a real shame.

[Rabbit]

On 4/27/2020 at 10:11 AM, Falxen said:

+/- Support, a level 4 keycard doesn't actualy grant acces to anything on the site i dont believe, so it'd be kinda useless, but on the other side it might be good to show ID to MTF?

 

-Support, this would allow Maynard to enter the PK room whenever a CI is captured.

 

rule maynard may not enter PK room, done
their are very few maynard so this is an easy rule to enforce.

Or you could place a guard outside

Honestly having that level 4 just to shut up the meda gamer outweigh this small problem (their are a lot of them)

O and while im here can people plz stop the "O check this out maynard has a CI sticker on his Radio??

Edited April 29, 2020 by Rabbit

[_Alpha_]

+support

if maynard kills the CI prisoner then its the mtfs fault in the end for letting him do it.

[Comrade Boekhom]

5 hours ago, Piggu.exe said:

+Support

In response to the PK room, why shouldn't Maynard be able to save CI?

MTF Should be guarding PK room anyway lmao. 

Maynard requires a whitelist. Don't forget that. Whitelists can be removed.

 

[Ze Blightcaller]

+support 

The Idea may sound stupid but in the long term there's not a lot of level 4 clearance areas and keypads but it could be used for decorative and RP reasons.

[Rabbit]

22 hours ago, Piggu.exe said:

Maynard requires a whitelist. Don't forget that. Whitelists can be removed.

Also that whitelist is the hardest to get on the server.