Novah Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 Just now, Rabbit said: How would staff enforce this? Well, if it was Considered FailRP than it'd be a FailRP warn or a verbal. There's a ton of things that can get you warned for FailRP but we don't always have proof of that however confessions or video proof help us a lot. Remember, we have a lot of logs but we don't have logs for everything ;3 We still manage! | Retired Head Gamemaster Emily | Super Admin Emily | Retired Nu-7 Colonel, Vice Marshal, & Seventh sister |"if you live among wolves, you have to act like a wolf." - Nikita Khrushchev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 technically we can enforce any rule given enough resources, but we only have limited resources, enforcing this rule will end in one of two ways staff having to spectate combat prone branches or leave the burden to prove wrongdoing on the players. You don't have to be the best, you just got to be better than dip shit over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novah Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rabbit said: technically we can enforce any rule given enough resources, but we only have limited resources, enforcing this rule will end in one of two ways staff having to spectate combat prone branches or leave the burden to prove wrongdoing on the players. Still, would it be that hard to actually handle?? If you think about it, people would find out about it than probably stop but it and it wouldn't be constant sits. If there are, I was wrong but still it'd be nice to not see people jump around like frogs wouldn't it? Enforcing the rule wouldn't really be that hard in my eyes but, if it is for others than, it is for others. It shouldn't stop us from being able to staff however. | Retired Head Gamemaster Emily | Super Admin Emily | Retired Nu-7 Colonel, Vice Marshal, & Seventh sister |"if you live among wolves, you have to act like a wolf." - Nikita Khrushchev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Jakub said: Bruh Just adapt to the meta that has been established long before you have played -Support i can already imagine the 500 sits a day based on crouch jumping. You would just have a million frivolous sits regarding this Many people have been used to crouch jumping and they may accidentally jump, are you gonna warn them for that? You would get a huge number of sits and you can’t do other important stuff on Staff It just makes no sense, even th3, the former HOS agrees HUGE -Support 10 hours ago, Novah said: Still, would it be that hard to actually handle?? If you think about it, people would find out about it than probably stop but it and it wouldn't be constant sits. If there are, I was wrong but still it'd be nice to not see people jump around like frogs wouldn't it? Enforcing the rule wouldn't really be that hard in my eyes but, if it is for others than, it is for others. It shouldn't stop us from being able to staff however. It may not be hard for you but others may find it hard and it’s more of a delicate issue to handle cause most people are not gonna remember this in combat cause they are trying not to instantly die and will crouch jump 100% Edited March 28, 2020 by [GL] Zeus Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novah Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, [GL] Zeus said: You would just have a million frivolous sits regarding this Many people have been used to crouch jumping and they may accidentally jump, are you gonna warn them for that? You would get a huge number of sits and you can’t do other important stuff on Staff It just makes no sense, even th3, the former HOS agrees HUGE -Support It may not be hard for you but others may find it hard and it’s more of a delicate issue to handle cause most people are not gonna remember this in combat cause they are trying not to instantly die and will crouch jump 100% For the sits, yes there may be a lot at first but than again it actually gives us a reason to do our job as staff. There's always plenty of sits for many different reasons. I've realized that there is a small way to determine if they're crouching jumping which has to do with our Player combat logs and we can see where the battle first started and how it started. If someone is spam crouch jumping and they kill that other person while in the air, we can determine it that way. Other ways, is video proof or just flat our talking. A sit like this shouldn't take more than 5 minutes in my eyes. Yes, Yes I understand that others may not handle this like that but it's only Crouch jump spamming.. This is the only server I've witnessed that has it that much which in my eyes ruins combat. Other servers manage, this one could as well. If, this was accepted than the sits that did come in would be large or medium amount however as a Community we can most likely overcome this together. It's crouch jump spamming, it ins't disallowing sprinting or shooting while like crouching or something. It's just crouch jump spamming. Hell, even jumping isn't that bad but the crouch jump spamming will just mess up combat and have people exploit there hit boxes. I don't expect this to be accepted but it'd be nice to see combat differently with formations being used and people actually using tactics. | Retired Head Gamemaster Emily | Super Admin Emily | Retired Nu-7 Colonel, Vice Marshal, & Seventh sister |"if you live among wolves, you have to act like a wolf." - Nikita Khrushchev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shaw who is inactive Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 hours ago, [GL] Zeus said: You would just have a million frivolous sits regarding this Many people have been used to crouch jumping and they may accidentally jump, are you gonna warn them for that? You would get a huge number of sits and you can’t do other important stuff on Staff It just makes no sense, even th3, the former HOS agrees HUGE -Support It may not be hard for you but others may find it hard and it’s more of a delicate issue to handle cause most people are not gonna remember this in combat cause they are trying not to instantly die and will crouch jump 100% Oh Shit! A Rat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perkele5000 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/27/2020 at 7:06 PM, Gunther said: -Support, it would be super hard to know who crouch jumped and who didn't. Also, if someone is doing it to abuse combat, like 076 vs MTF, then yea that should be FailRP but otherwise yea it's fine how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samm Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 i’m literally a scout and spy main, my 0 warns record would be destroyed by this out of habit -support and also, as jakub said, it’s a long established meta across hundreds of gmod servers, it’s semi serious rp, not everything has to be realistic. |Ex-Omi9 MAJ ||E-11 CPT|| Ex-SCPRP Senior Mod| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabbo Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 -Support Will they need to upgrade logs to see when people crouch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novah Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, Crabbo said: -Support Will they need to upgrade logs to see when people crouch? No.. It'd be the same thing I mentioned with previous ones lol | Retired Head Gamemaster Emily | Super Admin Emily | Retired Nu-7 Colonel, Vice Marshal, & Seventh sister |"if you live among wolves, you have to act like a wolf." - Nikita Khrushchev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 -support You can't change habit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 3/27/2020 at 4:59 PM, Doggo0 said: How do we check if someone did it or not? Staff has combat logs that allow them to see parts of it. Of course that will be complicated to use, but that would be used if someone was absolutely convinced they did it, and the other person was insisting they didn’t. I feel that this is a good exploit to close, like the dancing during combat rule, because mess with your hit box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Judge Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 9:29 AM, [GL] Zeus said: You would just have a million frivolous sits regarding this Many people have been used to crouch jumping and they may accidentally jump, are you gonna warn them for that? You would get a huge number of sits and you can’t do other important stuff on Staff It just makes no sense, even th3, the former HOS agrees HUGE -Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] M-2033 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 + Support, i don't try to be serious to get shot in the face by a shotgun jumping jockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_da_noob Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 - Support Even though this would increase RP, it would be impossible to enforce and cause more grief than benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 This is an unnecessary increase of RP. SCP-RP Moderator | CI LTCOL Boozle LC32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_ Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 On 3/27/2020 at 8:27 PM, th3 said: Imagine enforcing this rule I would go insane again Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoovy Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Major -Support "Mooooooom, Jimmy's crouch jumping again!" 2 Former SCP:RP Event Team Leader (5/15/19 - 12/31/19) Current SCP:RP Head Administrator "I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternity Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 12:23 AM, Propane said: -support Hard to enforce I'd get warned so many times due to habit It is semi roleplay after all, so something like this is quite over the top PoliceRP Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1. It's Semi-Serious RP. 2. This is nearly impossible to enforce. 3. Is it really that big of a deal? Like are we gonna lose sleep over people crouch jumping while in gunfights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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