Spookie Ghostie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) I feel like the security are getting horribly killed in D block Riots and honestly its depressing to see I've seen 2 higher ups just say I'm done and leave because of the OP weapons like the wrenches and knives the D class have. As a Security myself I can also say that this needs to stop my solution to this is the NLR. I feel like the D class scavenger, Pro, and Expert all have really good weapons that they spawn with and because they don't have NLR they can just keep running up to the Security and one shot them, I think instead of changing the weapons they spawn with we limit the spawn rate so its easier to stop minge Class D and so on. The reason I didn't mention the D class Brawler and Supplier also the D class in general is mainly because the D Class brawler can easily be gunned down by enough security same with the Supplier and Normal D class, The Reason the Supplier shouldn't have NLR is because they can really do that much and are almost like the D class, The Reason the Normal D class shouldn't have NLR is because it is mainly comprised of new players who haven't joined the forums I also don't think that many people take the time to read the Rules, the other reason is because its the most wide spread class but they aren't very powerful which is a good thing because it will be easier to stop the Riots and make the game more fun because every D class doesn't have a weapon that will instantly kill you. an example would be the Wall mart Rebellion how because of it D class got to HCZ and some parts of EZ, they also came up the elevator in huge packs and were able to break through a line of about 5 to 8 security and a few MTF which in my opinion shouldn't happen. If D class do break NLR they should follow this as punishment 1st. time breaking NLR - A verbal warning (to not be harsh for people who didn't get the memo) 2nd time- A warning 3rd time a demotion or ban from the Class I personally many people will agree with me on this and it should be added -A fellow Security Spookie Edited February 24, 2019 by Spookie Ghostie To add the reason not to punish some D class for NLR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) +/- support To my knowledge, the rules are supposed to apply to everyone. D-bois still have to follow the rules on NLR. You shouldn’t be exempt just because you’re knew. I’m pretty sure that this rule was already in effect but it was left unenforced. Edited February 25, 2019 by October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 50 minutes ago, October said: +/- support To my knowledge, the rules are supposed to apply to everyone. D-bois still have to follow the rules on NLR. You shouldn’t be exempt just because you’re knew. I’m pretty sure that this rule was already in effect but it was left unenforced. +support As research this would be great! Also October, they don’t have to follow NLR, to my knowledge Retired E11 Commander Polar Doctor L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emoo Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 -/+ Support As a security I support this. But a bunch of people would break this as security does, but due to the amount of d class at a time it would be insane for admins and there would at least 3 tickets at a time of people complaining about breaking NLR so this is where I dont support this. 『Retired Head of Staff on ImperialRP』 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioDemon Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 -/+ -You have to wait in your cell like other NLR so I would make it so if your under NLR you cant attack Gensec only +Its can be a pain in the ass when D-Class are constantly Rioting and killing Gensec and escaping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manager Nimo Posted February 25, 2019 Manager Share Posted February 25, 2019 How about D class waiting 1 Minute for NLR 1 〖 PoliceRP 〗Senior Management Team | Manager 〖 Lead Account Manager 〗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Nimo said: How about D class waiting 1 Minute for NLR Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnny Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 its pretty hard to get past the doors already waiting NLR will make it nearly impossible to escape since all the security have already reset themselves to full hp and armor and are already for the next riot which means that we still have no chance of escaping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old account Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) +support I hate when class d kills security and we have to wait 3 minutes while if we kill them they don't have to wait and can just come kills us Edited February 26, 2019 by coolgamey more stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Pure Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 +Support This would really help security control the D class that just want to escape or kill foundation personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangiatea Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Or better yet just remove security's nlr against the best class this would make it easier on staff as well "A good soldier obeys without question. A good officer commands without doubt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 +Support This will definitely help GENSEC a-lot and I won't have to be calling lockdowns every 10 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matricies Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Hello Spookie, As a fellow security officer, I understand the frustration of having 2-3 D class rush up, kill 2 people and then die only to have them come back up and do the same thing while those security members are forced to sit back for 3 mins unable to help. But honestly the primary issue with the current system is that D class have no NLR while Security does even while in D block. While this makes sense from a balance perspective, it becomes problematic when you have 6 security and 10+ D class. I think the easiest way to resolve this issue would just be to remove security NLR while they are in the D block area so that people can’t just rush up, kill 2-3 guards, respawn and kill 2-3 more guards while those others are unable to help. Because putting the NLR on only the weaponized D classes doesn’t stop them from bullrushing the door when security is busy with the D class with melee weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 +/- SUPPORT +SUPPORT ON SECURITY SIDE: -Will stop Chaos -Redo rules -Will be hard to enforce but can happen -SUPPORT ON STAFF SIDE: -Hard for staff to know where a d class died -Was a rule before but D Bois are usually mingy so this would be warnfest FINAL VERDICT: Remove Security NLR for those Security guarding D Block would be easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookieblue Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Removing Security NLR for D-Block would make sense, only have NLR in effect during events would work! Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpenter John Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 While I like this idea, I feel as though it would be nearly unenforceable due to the amount of D Class. Will be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnny Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Please let’s not remove security NLR it’s hard enough to get past security. They’d just run out there bunks and continuously spray us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matricies Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) Hello Bigjohnny, Its not realistic for you guys at all to be able to rush us with wrenches/knives and expect to get past fully armed security forces with assault weaponry. If you are a D class, your supposed to be at an disadvantage, your not SUPPOSED to get past security without it being intensely hard. The main issue is the weapon pack we're using is really sucky and the damage was set to 0.25 nerfing the hell out of ranged weaponry while letting melee weapons get way too close. Edited March 1, 2019 by Matricies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_ Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 How bout this. I can talk to carp about stuff. For example that if the are 10-15 dclass on. There is nlr 16+ only lt+ can have no nlr. Etc Head Admin SCP-RP || Event Team Overseer || Ethics Committee || Ex Security FTO 1LT || Ex Security Warden || Ex CI R&D Senior Agent || UMC Guest [LVL 0] || Former Research Researcher || Former DORSU || Former DOC || Former LCZ Manager || I aM sPeCiAl || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 +/- Support Recently there is a gensec post requesting that security don’t get NLR and I feel if the ClassD had NLR it would make it much harder on researchers, I also feel if security don’t have NLR than ClassD should also not have to receive NLR it’s extremely unfair on the people that ONLY rp as ClassD. If ClassD get NLR I think they should atleast be able to stand in the line but they are not allowed to attack/escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 PENDING. I don't think this is the right solution, but I will attempt to solve this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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