Nicolaaas Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 What you want to see? - DOC spawning with defibs, and adding the rule "You cannot respawn in prison if there is a DOC on" so they can serve their time and not cheat their jail time Why should we add it? - Every time someone is RPing as a prisoner or there are actual prisoners, there are bound to be incidents. Riots, fights, etc. It takes quite a long time for EMS to arrive and for them to be coming back and forth everytime a prisoner is down is very inefficient. Adding defibs to DOC will improve RP, help EMS with work, and overall save everyone time. Now if there is no EMS then prisoners should still not be able to respawn as DOC will have defibs and they will be cheating their jail times when they can just be revived What are the advantages of having this? - Save EMS's time Improve RP Stop Prisoners from cheating their time Who is it mainly for? - DOC, Prisoners, EMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarlax Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 This makes EMS utterly useless for almost all deaths at prison. Lead Account Manager Backend Operations | Custom Jobs | Proud Member since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolaaas Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Snarlax said: This makes EMS utterly useless for almost all deaths at prison. Like I said, it takes them a while and DOC is practically a separate entity. For the same logic why should CERT or any other tac units have defibs then? Makes EMS practically useless EVERYWHERE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarlax Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Nicolaaas said: Like I said, it takes them a while and DOC is practically a separate entity. For the same logic why should CERT or any other tac units have defibs then? Makes EMS practically useless EVERYWHERE 1. You aren't a tac unit 2. With your logic, by suggesting this, you are increasing the amount of people with defibs, therefore making EMS practically useless in even more areas or "EVERYWHERE" as you stated Lead Account Manager Backend Operations | Custom Jobs | Proud Member since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolaaas Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Snarlax said: You aren't a tac unit Weird flex but ok Wait but your still ignoring the fact that, why do tacs have it then? Do we just ignore the flaws of the defibs because their a special snowflake? Edited January 29, 2019 by Nicolaaas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHEETO Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, Nicolaaas said: Weird flex but ok Wait but your still ignoring the fact that, why do tacs have it then? Do we just ignore the flaws of the defibs because their a special snowflake? no more because tac teams ACTUALLY HAVE THEM IRL. Even in prison Its EMS who deal with emergencies. Again IRL. But ye'know just saying..... -S U P P O R T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolaaas Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 39 minutes ago, CHEETO said: Even in prison Its EMS who deal with emergencies No no no. They do not. Most prisons have an infirmary to treat prisoners, its basically a makeshift hospital in Prison. But unfortunately the server cannot incorporate everything from IRL so we need to improvise and adding defibs is a great way to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 -support as long as people ACTUALLY CALL EMS and CERT and ARU chill out with their defibs. I get that theyre a tac unit but ems is there for a reason. ⦗MilRP: Spetsnaz SCOL | Retired SZ and DI Major General || JvS: Retired Sith Council | Reserve Sentry Darth | Retired Administrator⦘ ⦗IRP: R DT SPC DD9 | R 31st LTCOL || SCP-RP: R HOR & HOS | R CI MSGT⦘ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Gat Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Snarlax said: This makes EMS utterly useless for almost all deaths at prison. ^ Agreed there’s no point in them having them, just wait for EMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamikzone Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Snarlax said: This makes EMS utterly useless for almost all deaths at prison. This will cause EMS to be less active as well if they have nothing to do because DOC is reviving people. DOC should be focused on the prison and they are not a tac unit with medical equipment. If this is your argument then FBI should get defibs too. But that would not make sense either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolaaas Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, gamikzone said: This will cause EMS to be less active 1 hour ago, Teh_Gat said: ^ Agreed there’s no point in them having them, just wait for EMS What percent of people does EMS revive from DOC, not many. Its not like DOC is going to over use it. They should only revive in code 4 situations after a riot or prison RP scenario. They shouldn't even revive after a jailbreak. This will barely impact EMS at all if you look at it realistically. You're all looking at the worst case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohnny Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Snarlax said: This makes EMS utterly useless for almost all deaths at prison. Only ems should have defbis is confusing enough to for cert having defibs if they still have them because people will think there’s EMS when there really isn’t and waste a lot of time. And what snar said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostlyNinjaDude Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 -Support We don't really need defibs.....also you can just call EMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxitman Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Snarlax said: This makes EMS utterly useless for almost all deaths at prison. Agreed 2 hours ago, BigJohnny said: Only ems should have defbis is confusing enough to for cert having defibs if they still have them because people will think there’s EMS when there really isn’t and waste a lot of time. And what snar said Agreed 2 hours ago, Rhenic said: How many people die in the DOC excluding jailbreaks? If you want to have an infirmity see if an EMS would be willing to do that RP with you. Please do Nicholasss 3 hours ago, Nicolaaas said: They should only revive in code 4 situations after a riot or prison RP scenario. It is in our S.O.P that you have to revive when a situation is code 4. 3 hours ago, Nicolaaas said: Its not like DOC is going to over use it. They will like CERT and ARU 3 hours ago, Nicolaaas said: This will barely impact EMS at all if you look at it realistically. It will really impact EMS 6 hours ago, Nicolaaas said: Like I said, it takes them a while and DOC is practically a separate entity. For the same logic why should CERT or any other tac units have defibs then? Makes EMS practically useless EVERYWHERE I feel it should be or is that if EMS is online they cant use their debrifs -SUPPORT -EMS Deputy Chief Toxitman Edited January 29, 2019 by Toxitman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Rhenic said: -support Just call EMS like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 -Support I mean what's the point of EMS then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcub Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 + support In resl life there is medics in prison 46 minutes ago, Dane said: -Support I mean what's the point of EMS then? But some tac units have defibd EX Secret Secret Service ASAIC, EX DOC CPL, EX EMS, EX ARU MSGT, EX Staff Moderator PD MSGT, Secret Service SSA Reserve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternity Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 18 hours ago, Timmemes said: -support as long as people ACTUALLY CALL EMS and CERT and ARU chill out with their defibs. I get that theyre a tac unit but ems is there for a reason. During ARU training for Medic, we are trained on when it's appropriate to use defibs and on who. ARU does not use defibs on Criminals as that's EMS's job. I don't know about CERT tho. PoliceRP Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, EternityAgar said: During ARU training for Medic, we are trained on when it's appropriate to use defibs and on who. ARU does not use defibs on Criminals as that's EMS's job. I don't know about CERT tho. nah Im sure you train them that way, but it sure isn't how it usually plays out. ⦗MilRP: Spetsnaz SCOL | Retired SZ and DI Major General || JvS: Retired Sith Council | Reserve Sentry Darth | Retired Administrator⦘ ⦗IRP: R DT SPC DD9 | R 31st LTCOL || SCP-RP: R HOR & HOS | R CI MSGT⦘ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
𝙁𝙧𝙚𝙚𝙯𝙚 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 - Support Not needed Former S.W.A.T Commander & J.M.T Member Quote Best driver of the year award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~𝓢𝓞𝓤𝓛~ Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 +support i think this would be a good idea if you made a rule where a if ems isnt on than doc can use there difibulator otherwise i agree with it makes ems utterly useless PD SM | SWAT LT | SL Consigliere MLG Pro Negev player #buffthenegev2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snarlax Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Denied. The SMT team for this server has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason Lead Account Manager Backend Operations | Custom Jobs | Proud Member since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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