PandaInShitpostLand Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) What are you suggesting? - Changes to guns and classes of weapons that weren't changed at all. In my Ultimate Weapon Change Suggestion I suggested every category of firearms receive changes. seeing as that's not going through and TTK has gone to a state of not being the worst thing in existence alot of the suggestion has become outdated and irrelevant. I'm here to provide changes to firearms that are still classified as (Using player terms here) Complete and Utter Dogshit tfa assault rifles (All damages are direct C menu damage.) (Decrease recoils are an if possible thing) tfa_fal + tfa_m14sp change tfa_m14sp damage to 52. This is a semi auto weapon, it should have power behind it. add fully auto fire mode to tfa_fal, increase damage to 44. tfa_scar + tfa_g3a3 Increase magazine capacity to 25 tfa_ak74 Increase damage to 41 Increase stability to 80% tfa_amd65 Increase damage to 39 Increase stability to 80% tfa_m16a4_acog, tfa_f2000, tfa_l85 Decrease damage to 35. These weapons have scopes and should lack some power. tfa submachine guns tfa_bizonp19 Change accuracy: 4 - 2 tfa_usc Increase damage to 42 tfa_mp40 Change accuracy: 4 - 3 tfa_mp5 Change accuracy: 2 - 0 tfa_mp5sd Change accuracy: 3 - 1 Decrease damage to 38 tfa_ump45 Change accuracy: 3 - 2 Increase damage to 40 tfa_thompson Increase mobility to 75% Increase stability to 65% Increase magazine to 50 Decrease recoil tfa_mp7 Decrease firerate to 875 Increase damage to 34 Increase stability to 80% Decrease Recoil tfa_mp9 Increase damage to 31 tfa_smgp90 Change accuracy: 3 - 2 Decrease recoil tfa_sten Heavily reduce recoil tfa_tec9 Decrease Recoil (why nerf the tec-9 and keep the uzi the same?) Increase damage to 32 Quick note for LMGS: I do not like that they are all negevs. they should be suppressive fire weapons not miniguns. I do not have ideas on how to change them however, so its up to coltable Quick note for pistols: Revolvers need to be looked at, they are very bad, and that goes for every revolver excluding the R8. also please reduce Lugar recoil TFA CSGO (AKA the slums) tfa_csgo_ak47 (The worst gun in the game) Change accuracy: 3 - 2 Increase damage to 43 Increase stability to 65% tfa_csgo_aug Increase stability to 75% Decrease recoil tfa_csgo_cz75 Increase damage to 35 tfa_csgo_famas Decrease recoil Increase stability to 73% tfa_csgo_galil Increase stability to 70% tfa_csgo_m4a1 Increase damage to 40 tfa_csgo_mp7 Revert back to before its nerf. it was a balanced weapon, just used on a class who should not have had it tfa_csgo_p90 Change Accuracy: 2 - 1 Increase damage to 33 tfa_csgo_bizon Increase damage to 31 tfa_csgo_sawedoff Increase damage to 18x9 tfa_csgo_sg556 Heavily Decrease Spread tfa_csgo_xm1014 Increase Firerate to 175 RPM Increase magazine to 8 rounds tfa sniper rifles tfa_contender Increase damage to 135 (when calculating the 0.75 damage, this makes it to about 100 damage to a direct body shot, 200 to the head able to 1 shot 200 hp targets, seeing as this is a 1 shot reload "sniper", and with the fact its hard to hit the head unless the person is standing still[If you are shot you flinch], this seems balanced) How would this change better the server? - This gives weapons that have no use at all in this boring meta a chance to shine in the spotlight, lowering the damage on the meta AR's will force experimentation, which forms a new meta away from the stale meta we currently have, though they might still be kings the lower damage will hurt them. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Other than taking time from coltable and Jayden, none at all. sure, people might not be happy about it at first but thats how all shifts in balance are. Who would this change mostly benefit? - Combatant Branches Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - this is the OG suggestion, has some flaws and the sheet is outdated, might update it someday. Edited June 27, 2022 by PandaInShitpostLand small changes, reverted contender changes with reasoning The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlantBruh Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, PandaInShitpostLand said: Honorable Mention tfa_contender Increase damage to 135 sneaky sneaky -support for the contender change You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) +support for everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yato Sensei Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 57 minutes ago, PlantBruh said: sneaky sneaky -support for the contender change You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) +support for everything else Joined 09/30/2020Retired 11/12/2022Former Security SFC || Former MTF Omi9 MSGT || Former CI CPT/MAJ || Former Nu7 LTCOL/VCMDR || Former E11 CPL || Former Maintenance Professional || Former D5 CPT || Former Senior Medic || Former Advanced Researcher | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stSavagerY Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, PlantBruh said: sneaky sneaky -support for the contender change You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) +support for everything else Nu-7 COL / SFTO / FE / TRT / BHM / RG / Head SCP-7101 / C0 FM HTF / SF Overseer / Iota-10 ("Damn Feds") / AFK / Solid Snake / SCP-RP Senior Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyara Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, PlantBruh said: sneaky sneaky -support for the contender change You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) +support for everything else Former Nu7 Command Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Dice Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, PlantBruh said: sneaky sneaky -support for the contender change You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) +support for everything else Demonically Inspired ..Nu7 CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItzGray Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, PlantBruh said: sneaky sneaky -support for the contender change You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) +support for everything else Current: Former: | RRH Sierra 47 | | E11 LCPL | | MJ | | AR | | Gensec SM | | CI SFC | | CI IA | | M | | Nu7 DHFE Lieutenant Colonel | | HTF A4 Z Viper A4 | | AH1Z Viper | SCP-RP: | Former staff: 6/18/21 -> 11/18/21| | Staff 2x 2/26/22 -> 10/28/22 | | Joined: Apr, 2021~ | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 14 hours ago, PlantBruh said: sneaky sneaky -support for the contender change You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) fine fine ill change it The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumpTruck Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 14 hours ago, PlantBruh said: sneaky sneaky -support for the contender change You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) +support for everything else Former RRH Analyst X-ray 39 Former D1 Deimos I Former DDOP of RnD [CC's] Deadshot-Engineer-Snoop Dog-MTF-Alpha-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisNuts Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Tbh, the spread for the weapons that aren't used as often should be decreased a lot. To make them feel like actual guns, and not some ape using an AK. CI CMDRCC: CI Requiem Squad XH-76 Biggest DMC Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grеg Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 58 minutes ago, IgnisNuts said: Tbh, the spread for the weapons that aren't used as often should be decreased a lot. To make them feel like actual guns, and not some ape using an AK. This, so many guns are never used because they aren’t accurate. Just look at the meta right now the least accurate gun that’s used is the Negev and that thing when you can control recoil is a laser. Ranks: Security SM Greg | RRH Guardian Whiskey 11 Security Logo Designer | Premiere Club | #FreeMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, IgnisNuts said: Tbh, the spread for the weapons that aren't used as often should be decreased a lot. To make them feel like actual guns, and not some ape using an AK. its linked to accuracy... mostly SG552 for example has perfect accuracy but horrid spread The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Stedmen Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 +Support but feel this should be done slowly to allow for the branch's to update their branches in response to all of the changes. Pretty much every SF & Command job will need to changed in response to this suggestion Former SCPRP: CI R&D Chief Director of Operations || Research Administrator || RFA Operations Advisory || RRH Analyst Xray 77 || CI General || Senior Event Team || CI Lieutenant Commander || Exemplary Investigator Award Recipient || STF D4 Poseidon PL7 || A1 SPC "Quantum" Former ImperialRP: Naval Captain || Security Director || GM VI Former PoliceRP: EMS Captain || RRU Rapid Response Team Manager || FBI Assistant Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilThinMints Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 +support And add the contender too, I payed good money for it Free Melly Free TayK Free Fetty Wap Free Pooh Shiesty Current Rank/s: none dumbass Former Ranks: E11 2LT, CI SM, RND SVA, Gen-Sec MSGT, Nu7 SGT, RRH Guardians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 +Support looks good Former: 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐃𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐫 - 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐀𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fryingpan36 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 +support especially contender change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wXc GameHunter Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) +SUPPORT Honestly as a gensec main, I think the contender should be buffed, if you are dumb to sit still in d block, you deserve to get one tapped. A one shot sniper should ABSOLUTELY one tap low ranking gensec such as enlisted. Edited June 25, 2022 by wXc GameHunter Former Ranks: Medical AHOMS, SEC Major AJG WL Lucilla, D5 Vice Commander, CI R&D Archivist DHBI, CI Lieutenant Colonel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) +Support Yes more weapon variety yes sir! Edited June 25, 2022 by Cosmic The Italian EX Head Of Staff SCP-RP | CI will forever be in my heart. 1/15/21 - 8/1/22 (CI CMDR Cosmic ITLY) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz L0g1c Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Cosmic The Italian said: +Support Yes more weapon variety yes sir! Please bro, the meta has been the same for around 10 months.... W̵̠̽O̶̤̐̎͠R̷̨̯͇̘̓̓̐̚Ķ̶̨͙̌͗͋̐ ̷͎̻͈͘H̵̦̝̅́͝Ä̶̱̽R̷̔͊̀͜͠D̷̲̠̱͛͘ ̵̹̞͖͍̽͂Í̶̛̠́̎ͅÑ̶̟͈ ̸̭̖̋̀S̸̞̯͔̈́̍̈̽͜I̵̞̹̓͌̈́Ḹ̴͕̤̠̃Ë̶̘́͑Ṋ̵̰̞̀̏̄́C̸̼̱̏̑Ě̸͕̕͝ ̸͚͊͐͘Á̵̩̂̃N̶̩̦̈́Ḑ̷̲̣͐͐ ̷̨̣͇̄L̴̢̳̰̀̃E̸̙͗̏̕T̵̜́͛̿ ̴̝̯̠̐̇́S̸̠̣͋̆U̶̳̖̹̐C̶͙̩̽C̶̩̻̍̕E̷͈͖̓̈S̴͖͎̆͒͆͜S̸̥̞̗̠̀͌ ̶̫̩̬͂͛͝M̵͇̗͙͗͝͝A̶̛̬̦̾̿K̴̨̙̍ͅͅE̴̠͇̮͐͗́ ̵̳̲̅͑͝T̴͙͙̀̈́ͅH̶̢̎͛̈́̿E̴͈͖̹̔̂͝ ̴̹̯͓̂̈́N̶̦͌͒̔̎Ȍ̸̘͝I̴̭̠̅ͅS̸̭̼͋̕Ë̵́ A̵̙̥̭̠̓̅̎͘͝ͅ1̵̢̙̲̰̦̞͆͊ ̴̝̏́͑͂͝N̴̨͊̍o̸̖̦̬̅̑̇̍͠m̶̖̃a̸͉̤̜̪̘͑͌͝ḑ̶̘̣̬͇̈́ ̵͈̤̪͇̉͋̓̾Ỉ̴͓͔͍̻͖͕́͆͂̕͝ / Ş̵̧̛͙̙̼̌́͑̐͠T̶̢͔̫̿̓̿̅F̷̟̗̅̄̚ͅ ̷̝̈́̏̀̾̔̑D̸̰̓̾͌͝͝4̵̠̼̓̅̆͝͠ ̷̭̺͎̇H̸͚͖͇̃̀̋͘a̷̛͎͉̦̦̐̽́̑d̷̨͖͋e̵͍͒͆ś̵͈̪͓̞ ̸̣͉̄Ḍ̸̓I̶̩͖̖̟̯͒3̵̨̡̩͇̏̏ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 On 6/25/2022 at 4:25 PM, wXc GameHunter said: +SUPPORT Honestly as a gensec main, I think the contender should be buffed, if you are dumb to sit still in d block, you deserve to get one tapped. A one shot sniper should ABSOLUTELY one tap low ranking gensec such as enlisted. Agreed, if Gensec don't want their boys to die then tell them to keep moving and train them a bit better. Besides, as far as I know the Desert Eagle can 2 tap Gensec enlisted if you hit both headshots. Gensec snipers also get the Barret, which can one tap even D-Class CCs with a body shot. 1 Former CI CPT Ender CE3650 / C5 Cataphract V / D1 Freeman I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaInShitpostLand Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/25/2022 at 5:25 PM, wXc GameHunter said: +SUPPORT Honestly as a gensec main, I think the contender should be buffed, if you are dumb to sit still in d block, you deserve to get one tapped. A one shot sniper should ABSOLUTELY one tap low ranking gensec such as enlisted. Based security. Changes reverted with reasoning 1 The God Gamer of the Shitpost Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/21/2022 at 2:52 PM, PlantBruh said: sneaky sneaky -support for the contender change You'd just be one shot headshotting GenSec enlisted AND lower NCO's absolutely not something a D-Class should be able to do (without help from the armory) +support for everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 6/22/2022 at 3:39 AM, Cecil Stedmen said: +Support but feel this should be done slowly to allow for the branch's to update their branches in response to all of the changes. Pretty much every SF & Command job will need to changed in response to this suggestion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayden Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Now that we have #gun-balances in the SCPRP Official Discord, please refer to this channel for these changes so we can mix them in with the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayden Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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