Trumpo Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) Your in game name: Trumpo The player's in game name: Lime king UMC The player's steam ID (required): STEAM_0:0:191998466 What did the player do: He broke priority rules. I tried to perform a traffic stop on him for speeding and he did not stop. I don't think he had a valid reason to run. Evidence (required): https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/gf77RSf4CYN0J/d1337vcashTr?invite=cr-MSxPSTEsMTg4MjMyNjYs What do you believe should happen to the player: A warning for breaking priority rules Any extra information: We just wanted to do a traffic stop for speeding through the city and he decided to evade because he had a weapon on him that nobody knew anything about. I do not think that is a valid reason to run saying there would never be traffic stops if you could run for that. Every criminal has a gun on them. We never saw this " spaz 12" he claims he had. Edited April 1, 2022 by Trumpo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime King Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 -Support -I had a Spaz 12 on me that is not apart of my CC so therefor I had a valid reason to run. -A family member was already detained by police about 5-10 minutes prior and he was cuffed and searched so I wasn't going to allow that happen to me and go to jail. -What were you even pulling me over for? Literally no one gets pulled for speeding. You are just looking for a reason to start something 2 Retired FBI Director|$2,000Donator gang|UMC LVL 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpo Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) Your family member was detained and searched for running around with a weapon out. Different situation. Which was probably around 15-20 minutes before this happened. Pulling people over for speeding is a reason for a traffic stop. Edited April 1, 2022 by Trumpo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 -Support -He had a Spaz 12 that wasn't on his cc so he had a valid reason -A family member was already detained 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iyun man Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 + Support Priority rules were broken Reckless Driving / Speeding Had no wanted Was not being pulled over for having gun = Running for having an illegal gun is void 1 1 Family Head of Shadow Legacy SWAT CPL / SPS / APM / JFTO PD SGT / FTO State Trooper / CERT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 + Support As director of FBI I fail to understand how you could break this rule. 1 2 RETIRED! Ex 2iC of Shadow Legacy Ex S.W.A.T. Co-Commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor. Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 + Support The gun was not known of, he was not wanted Priority Rules broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniEpic Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 +Support Clear Evidence PD Was trying to stop you for reckless driving from waht it was looking like. You telling your self "I have a class 3" is just a excuse to run. Which no PD officer or tac officer would know unless you were searched or unless you were seen with it. From what I see from the clip there was no spas or anything until the end of the clip. Also! You in OOC told PD and said "Nah I have a class 3" who would even know you would have one in the first place? As a department head and long time community member I think you know what rule you broke in this clip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smurk Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 + Support Priority rules were broken Reckless Driving / Speeding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lime King Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, MiniEpic said: +Support Clear Evidence PD Was trying to stop you for reckless driving from waht it was looking like. You telling your self "I have a class 3" is just a excuse to run. Which no PD officer or tac officer would know unless you were searched or unless you were seen with it. From what I see from the clip there was no spas or anything until the end of the clip. Also! You in OOC told PD and said "Nah I have a class 3" who would even know you would have one in the first place? As a department head and long time community member I think you know what rule you broke in this clip. What was reckless about driving in a straight line from the intersection? Retired FBI Director|$2,000Donator gang|UMC LVL 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Zappe Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, MiniEpic said: +Support Clear Evidence PD Was trying to stop you for reckless driving from waht it was looking like. You telling your self "I have a class 3" is just a excuse to run. Which no PD officer or tac officer would know unless you were searched or unless you were seen with it. From what I see from the clip there was no spas or anything until the end of the clip. Also! You in OOC told PD and said "Nah I have a class 3" who would even know you would have one in the first place? As a department head and long time community member I think you know what rule you broke in this clip. Very disappointing that a department head would break priority rules and offer the same excuse that new players use. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpo Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, MiniEpic said: +Support Clear Evidence PD Was trying to stop you for reckless driving from waht it was looking like. You telling your self "I have a class 3" is just a excuse to run. Which no PD officer or tac officer would know unless you were searched or unless you were seen with it. From what I see from the clip there was no spas or anything until the end of the clip. Also! You in OOC told PD and said "Nah I have a class 3" who would even know you would have one in the first place? As a department head and long time community member I think you know what rule you broke in this clip. I was trying to stop him for speeding / w reckless driving saying he backed up and launched like a race track. Edited April 1, 2022 by Trumpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head of Staff Will Posted April 1, 2022 Head of Staff Share Posted April 1, 2022 +Support Regardless if you had a spas12 on you, that does not give you a right to run. Hell, unless if you had pulled out the spas and government just so happened to see it, then you would have a reason, but that is not something I saw happen in the video. This is a clear break of priority rules, and administrative action is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinn Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 4 hours ago, iyun man said: + Support Priority rules were broken Reckless Driving / Speeding Had no wanted Was not being pulled over for having gun = Running for having an illegal gun is void 5 hours ago, Lime King said: -A family member was already detained by police about 5-10 minutes prior and he was cuffed and searched so I wasn't going to allow that happen to me and go to jail. -What were you even pulling me over for? Literally no one gets pulled for speeding. You are just looking for a reason to start something It doesn't matter if a spaz-12 was on the CC or not. You was being pulled over for speeding, not possession of a illegal weapon. This is like running because you have some sort of firearm on a CC/Job that is not on it that you never brandished. A family member being detained is not a valid excuse to run. Also judging by the video you were stopped in a intersection which is impeding traffic and the visual speeding as well as ran a stop sign. All of which are reasons to initiate a traffic stop. Retired: Police Department Captain 1L-28 Emergency Medical Services Head FTO FTO-01 Emergency Medical Services Deputy 87-33 Emergency Medical Services Secretary United States Marshal Service Lead Special Agent 1Q-31 USMS Bounty Hunter Leader BHL-01 SRT GySGT 1R-28 SRT Corporal 1S-28 SCU Colonel 1U-28/SCU Head FTO Police RP: Moderator Drill Sgt. Kevin 1L-28 "You do not lose if you get knocked down. You lose if you stay down" -Muhammed Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfishing for nitro Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 -support Seems like he had solid reason to run I wonder if this report has ulterior motives Not sus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpo Posted April 1, 2022 Author Share Posted April 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, catfishing for nitro said: -support Seems like he had solid reason to run I wonder if this report has ulterior motives Nope just someone breaking the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJTHEOG Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 4 hours ago, catfishing for nitro said: -support Seems like he had solid reason to run I wonder if this report has ulterior motives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dry Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) +/- Support -Personally I think there is a biased motive, which makes the report sketched as is. -You should have handled it in game. -Also from personal experience I rarely see people report someone on breaking priority rules unless they got beef. -Granted he broke a rule so he should be either be talked to about it or jailed the next time he is on. Warn if really need be. Edited April 2, 2022 by Dry 2 Current Positions: Trooper Colonel of Illinois State Police / Sergeant Major of Rockford Police Emergency Medical Technician of Rockford EMS / Recruit in Delta Force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpo Posted April 2, 2022 Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, Dry said: +/- Support -Personally I think there is a biased motive, which makes the report sketched as is. -You should have handled it in game. -Also from personal experience I rarely see people report someone on breaking priority rules unless they got beef. -Granted he broke a rule so he should be either be talked to about it or jailed the next time he is on. Warn if really need be. I tried to handle it in game, Billy told me to make a forum post on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansbutbeans Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 - support no reson for pull over is the first thing second thing is you talked in game to see his name for no reason you are metagaming to figure out the player by talking in game to figure it out and there was no reason to be doing it. The video clearly shows him stopping at the stop sign when you turn on your light by hospital do not enter sign. 1 Beans UMC LVL 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe B Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 + Support Clear Evidence Priority rules were broken As director of FBI you should have a strong understanding of the rules. Ex: EMS: Captain RRU: Advanced Rapid Response Medic Staff: Senior Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Let me just state that I’m disappointed in near everyone in this thread. You guys always fucking claim bias and attack one another over this shit it’s sad + support there is a reason for the traffic stop- you were sitting there and immediately took off in front of trumpo it’s clear as DAY you having a spaz on you doesn’t not meet the criteria for priority rules. I don’t think a warm is needed but you need to be talked to 1 Retired Great Lake Side Police Deputy Chief of Police| Reserve PD Col | Rouge 141 operative| Harry Duke Member| Previous Senior Admin| Previous US Core VCMDR/ US Drill Instructors Commander/ US Military Police Chief/ Spetnaz Reserve 1LT. US GFH25 Delta Force Operative Chairman Designation A259 - SCO19 Chief Superintendent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 - Support- He was reckless driving which is an arrestable offense - Had a Class 3 on his person - Did not break priority rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinn Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, King said: - He was reckless driving which is an arrestable offense This is straight from police officer guide "Reckless Driving - $5000 (Depending on what is damaged)" Here is what priority rules for running are just in case people are wondering: Criminals must have a VALID reason to run from Police. This includes but is not limited to Having a warrant for shooting at government Your vehicle being wanted in a prior pursuit Your life is threatened by an officerIt also states this: Criminals may not engage in harmful and or felony acts for the following reasons Merely being stopped for a traffic violation (Such as stopping in the middle of the street/running a stopsign) An officer giving you a ticket An officer bumping your vehicle Any player merely coming up to you and speaking with you Having a gun out while driving does NOT allow you to run from the police if you are in a traffic stop These rules apply to player interaction as well. Do NOT randomly shoot players for stupid and or playful acts RP situations out. Warnings will be handed out for breaking RP if priority situations are brought up without proper reasonThis is sad that not a single one of you that have -supported know what priority rules are and the fact that it being "Bias" or because they do not like Lime King is absurd. At the end of the day no matter how small a rule it is still being broken which will require proper punishment. Edited April 2, 2022 by Kevinn Retired: Police Department Captain 1L-28 Emergency Medical Services Head FTO FTO-01 Emergency Medical Services Deputy 87-33 Emergency Medical Services Secretary United States Marshal Service Lead Special Agent 1Q-31 USMS Bounty Hunter Leader BHL-01 SRT GySGT 1R-28 SRT Corporal 1S-28 SCU Colonel 1U-28/SCU Head FTO Police RP: Moderator Drill Sgt. Kevin 1L-28 "You do not lose if you get knocked down. You lose if you stay down" -Muhammed Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Locus Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 +Support While I don't have the full context to this. Its clear you knew that there was a cop behind you who had no context of you having a "SPAS" on you which means that's out of play and your only getting pulled over for a traffic violation. You seem to of just ran to your friend instead of stopping so you didn't get a ticket or stopped by a LEO. Just to play devils advocate thoe the only way I could see you not getting warned for this and it being valid is if you didn't hear them how ever that is not the case. Previous Positions: Ex-Death Trooper | Ex- Inferno Squad Leader | Retired HRT LT | Retired FBI DCOS | Retired FBI FTO DD | Retired PD Major Current Positions: SRT Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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