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Minor change to the 5 min timer rule for SCPs - Denied


Cecil Stedmen

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What are you suggesting? - Create an exception for the 5 minute timer before you can breach if let out IF the SCP was requested for a test and/or breached as a result of a test gone wrong.

Edit: Gonna add this as well. In order for it to be a valid test; it must be done by a member of CI RND, RRH Analyst, Research, or Site Admin+ that is cleared to test on the SCP. So a breach caused by a 610 test being done by a JR wouldn't be considered a valid breach in the first 5 mins due to not being allowed to test on the SCP.

How would this change better the server? -  It closes a potential loophole where researchers can request an SCP to flag up and not need to take necessary security procedures under the 5 min rule. Never seen this loophole abused but it's best to close the loophole before that happens. Ensuring an SCP doesn't breach is something Research Command emphasizes to enlisted researchers; pretty much every SCP has a means of ensuring it doesn't breach and a bit of creative roleplay can also be done to ensure an SCP does not breach if nothing in the MOTD is listed to help limit a breach from occurring. 

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Genuinely don't see any; it's simply closing a loophole that needed to be closed.

Who would this change mostly benefit? - SCPs

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Edited by Cecil Stedmen
Made a change to the suggestion based on Nyde's response
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While I agree researchers shouldn’t abuse this, it’s something Moonrose and I can work to enforce. This could lead to minges breaching SCPs by claiming it was “for testing”

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20 minutes ago, Nydekore said:

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While I agree researchers shouldn’t abuse this, it’s something Moonrose and I can work to enforce. This could lead to minges breaching SCPs by claiming it was “for testing”

Then we punish them for not taking proper security procedures and causing a breach, and if it was deliberate then just slap them a removal + DNT or a blacklist as they gonna do it anyways. Although I will say in order to fully close the loop and limit abuse of the loophole closing; I'll edit the suggestion to add; in order for it to count as a test, it must be done by either a member of Research or CI RND that is cleared to test on the SCP. So if a JR breaches 610 during a "test" then it's voided as they weren't cleared to test on the SCP.

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Aren't SCPs not allowed to breach during tests, like how they can't during feedings? 

Regardless, -Support. We shouldn't encourage people to beach during tests, it'd just ruin Research's rp. 

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1 hour ago, Right Twix Bar said:

Aren't SCPs not allowed to breach during tests, like how they can't during feedings? 

Regardless, -Support. We shouldn't encourage people to beach during tests, it'd just ruin Research's rp. 

They can breach during a test unless it's a mass test as those are OOC and all of research should be taking proper security procedures during their test; thats not ruining RP, it's adding to it. Every SCP has a means to keep it inside during a test and if it doesn't then creative RP can fix that. The purpose of this is to ensure researchers take proper security procedures as they should. We recently added a joint subbranch between gensec and research called RIG whose sole purpose is to escort researchers. Utilizing them properly makes testing extremely easy even with this new rule in place. 

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This would be a great way to enhance RP with SCP's if a test causes a containment breach then the researchers can fill out a incident report. thats what its for after all. It also increases the fun for MTF and SCP players to actually have a job to do whilst escorting for tests.

I would really like to see this implimented

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12 minutes ago, Its Buck said:

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This would be a great way to enhance RP with SCP's if a test causes a containment breach then the researchers can fill out a incident report. thats what its for after all. It also increases the fun for MTF and SCP players to actually have a job to do whilst escorting for tests.

I would really like to see this implimented

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1. Incident reports are badass
2. Making this exist will add danger to testing scps and proper safety precautions will need to be taken. there is no ruining RP if the researcher failed to account for security (like how actual researchers will treat an actual test)

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29 minutes ago, Its Buck said:

This would be a great way to enhance RP with SCP's if a test causes a containment breach then the researchers can fill out a incident report. thats what its for after all. It also increases the fun for MTF and SCP players to actually have a job to do whilst escorting for tests.

 

While this is not necessarily what this suggestion is about as SCPs CAN breach during testing already, I will look into making a proper "incident report" format to put perhaps in the Foundation Test Logs forum.

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Prevents Researchers from being protected for the first 5 minutes of the test which totally ruins some poggers RP uwu

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13 hours ago, PandaInShitpostLand said:

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1. Incident reports are badass
2. Making this exist will add danger to testing scps and proper safety precautions will need to be taken. there is no ruining RP if the researcher failed to account for security (like how actual researchers will treat an actual test)

Agreed.

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22 hours ago, Nydekore said:

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While I agree researchers shouldn’t abuse this, it’s something Moonrose and I can work to enforce. This could lead to minges breaching SCPs by claiming it was “for testing”

 

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On 2/28/2022 at 12:01 PM, Nydekore said:

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While I agree researchers shouldn’t abuse this, it’s something Moonrose and I can work to enforce. This could lead to minges breaching SCPs by claiming it was “for testing”

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cant enforce what isnt seen.   Accountability is on the individual not command.  Also breached SCPs are fun!  More breaches more fun

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57 minutes ago, Coltable said:

Sorry to say this but I don't trust CI with just accidently letting a scp insta breach so if we make it only apply for foundation research then im g with that.

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On 2/28/2022 at 1:02 PM, Right Twix Bar said:

Aren't SCPs not allowed to breach during tests, like how they can't during feedings? 

Regardless, -Support. We shouldn't encourage people to beach during tests, it'd just ruin Research's rp. 

 

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On 3/13/2022 at 9:23 PM, Coltable said:

Sorry to say this but I don't trust CI with just accidently letting a scp insta breach so if we make it only apply for foundation research then im g with that.

Dont forget about CTF D5 cause we can test on scps as well ;-;.

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The biggest allure of SCP in general is the danger of testing going wrong and a simple error leading to a keter breach or worse, I think it ruins rp possibilities if an SCP is forced to stay and do nothing cause of a rule that is strictly speaking an invisible chain.

Also incident reports are super cool and need to be implemented in some way

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On 2/28/2022 at 3:01 PM, Nydekore said:

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While I agree researchers shouldn’t abuse this, it’s something Moonrose and I can work to enforce. This could lead to minges breaching SCPs by claiming it was “for testing”

 

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On 3/1/2022 at 2:00 PM, PandaInShitpostLand said:

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1. Incident reports are badass
2. Making this exist will add danger to testing scps and proper safety precautions will need to be taken. there is no ruining RP if the researcher failed to account for security (like how actual researchers will treat an actual test)

 

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On 2/28/2022 at 3:01 PM, Nydekore said:

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While I agree researchers shouldn’t abuse this, it’s something Moonrose and I can work to enforce. This could lead to minges breaching SCPs by claiming it was “for testing”

 

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On 2/28/2022 at 9:30 PM, PandaInShitpostLand said:

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1. Incident reports are badass
2. Making this exist will add danger to testing scps and proper safety precautions will need to be taken. there is no ruining RP if the researcher failed to account for security (like how actual researchers will treat an actual test)

 

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