CyClone Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) What are you suggesting? - Nerf the Khovostov How would this change better the server? - Balance the player vs player combat. In this clip below it does 485 dmg in the matter of like half a second. This gun is on D5 commander. This gun is absolutely broken even price admitted to it himself. Overall it just ruins the player combat on this server making it unplayable. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - None. Who would this change mostly benefit? - Everyone going against this gun in a fight. Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/8FcVOYVMsyL4G/d1337Xlb7erK?invite=cr-MSxUOWosMjY5OTEwOTcs Edited January 23, 2022 by CyClone 2 1 Retried: CI LTCMDR CI R&D AIN, E11 CPT, and Research Assistant Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceru Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) -/+ Neutral Considering only 1 job on the server has it and considering the activity of the people who have access, it seems as so the damage and power of this gun is justified. ( Edit ) Never mind, as a fellow D5, it is quite overpowered and does way too much damage ( We tested its damage a bit ) + Support Edited January 23, 2022 by Spaceru 1 Former D5 command, Gladiator main. Gladiators FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAlila | Tay Keith! Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 +Support Completely unfair to anyone on the opposing side of this weapon, the clip says enough considering he 3 hit a fully maxed out SF. 𝐒𝐂𝐏𝐑𝐏 𝐇𝐢𝐠𝐡 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 | 𝐆𝐚𝐦𝐦𝐚 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 - 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐨𝐬 𝐋𝐭. 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐈𝐦𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐚𝐥𝐑𝐏 𝐇𝐢𝐠𝐡 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 | 𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐑𝐞𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐞 ₋ 𝐆𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐆𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooty Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, TAlila | Tay Keith! said: +Support Completely unfair to anyone on the opposing side of this weapon, the clip says enough considering he 3 hit a fully maxed out SF. Massive +support Our SF are supposed to be able to stand toe to toe with all MTF branches, being able to be 4 shot by 1 person is utterly game breaking much less 4 shot a max SF and ruins RP and PVP scenarios. SCP RP Ranks and CC's : CI SFTO CPT, S9 Houston IX, Owner Of CI "Reaper" Squadron SCP RP Level 100 Gang "Why Does A RRH Only have 10 Hours on the server"? "Very Active Forums User" - Hoovy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grеg Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 +Support Holy shit, Why is this a thing?? Ranks: Security SM Greg | RRH Guardian Whiskey 11 Security Logo Designer | Premiere Club | #FreeMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 +Support "WHAUT?!?!?!!! " - S6 SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fryingpan36 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 +support (this is only affecting weiss) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyelander Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 +support clip speaks for itself |retired dhor/meritorious service award recipient||former CI 1lt/sm and E4 C2||Rho 36 Shaman| "For the day I die, imma touch the sky" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chombos Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 +Support Price just told me how broken that gun is, god damn Former E11/R&D Senior Command | Former IMP RP HCMD | Donator | "when you're drunk as fuck, you feel no pain" - Yohan 2022 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarGar Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 +support Bruh Resigned CI CMDR Gar | Former E11 SGT Gar | RRH Guardian Yankee 42 | Former D5 CPL Gar (one of the first) | A1 Steak Sauce I | Farmer Gar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrisonwilson1207 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) -Support Cyclone, I'm going to keep it 100 and say that this nerf is not really needed. Allow me to explain. I know it's going to sound biased because of me being in D5 but I just want to get this out. This gun only belongs to 1 class and 3 people having it. And for clarification it's the no land beyond that made it do the damage it was doing because of its exotic perk which grants the user a damage buff for a brief amount of time to their next target meaning one, not multiple. Second You should to take into consideration of how often we have one of our HCMD members on and how often they play. Who would this change mostly benefit? - "Everyone going against this gun in a fight." Now I can understand going 1 on 1 or maybe a squad. But consider your numbers you all usually get. This shouldn't be an issue. Not to mention how well equipped your guys classes are. You are on one of the best SF job's on the server and you're saying it's ruining player combat? If this were to be nerfed it would just ruin the combat experience for them when the commander of an MTF branch is weaker than a CI SF. The khovostov does 16.4 with armor and the ACOG does 23.3 with armor and yes this was tested earlier in-game and with the footage cyclone provided. It's pretty hypocritical suggestion to be honest. Edited January 23, 2022 by Harrisonwilson1207 Had to add a few final changed 2 9 -=Delta-5 Low command=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flixy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 45 minutes ago, TAlila | Tay Keith! said: +Support Completely unfair to anyone on the opposing side of this weapon, the clip says enough considering he 3 hit a fully maxed out SF. Nu7 MSGT | Ex CI R&D AIN | Ex Sec 2LT | Ex OS | Ex CI 2LT [CC] Owns: OPIF - Omnipurpose Infantry Force | Charple on Vacation | Vonzen Plushi | CI Take Force 'Blackhawks' [CC] On: Farmer Jakub | MTF Sigma-66 | E-11 Rangers 'Reborn' | TF2 Solider | CI TF2 Heavy | Obama | Lone Wolf | Combine | STARS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitch Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) Ok, so to avoid any confusion this is not the Khvostov that's causing the massive damage. It's the No Land Beyond that's causing the Khvostov to do that much damage. I did test this before killing and after killing with the NLB (No Land Beyond). In the description of the No Land Beyond: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2066337417&searchtext=no+land+beyond at the bottom of "Features from the game:" it has this: The Master Exotic Perk: Kills briefly increase damage against next target. So as long as I don't use the NLB the Khvostov doesn't take the perk from NLB and use it as its own. I have no intention to try to gain an advantage over anyone with this exploit, I only love this gun from D1 back in its prime. Just putting this and only this in instead of a + or a - support. And I know that commenting is only suppose to be putting a + or a -. Edited January 23, 2022 by stitch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumpTruck Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, TAlila | Tay Keith! said: +Support Completely unfair to anyone on the opposing side of this weapon, the clip says enough considering he 3 hit a fully maxed out SF. Former RRH Analyst X-ray 39 Former D1 Deimos I Former DDOP of RnD [CC's] Deadshot-Engineer-Snoop Dog-MTF-Alpha-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanGuy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 +Support Just modify the amount of damage that the perk give to the next target, dont make it useless. 2 Former CI CPT| Guts | Mexican “I will protect those who cannot protect themselves. ” —Second Ideal of the Windrunners— Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitch Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) -Support Going to replace the NLB for a weapon that doesn't cause the Khvostov to do damage like this. If you must insist on nerfing a gun, please direct it torwards NLB. I'm going to do my best to swap it. Khvostov Damage should be in an okay place with the server damage multiplier being 0.65 and the gun deals 45. Edited January 23, 2022 by stitch adding a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Harrisonwilson1207 said: -Support Cyclone, I'm going to keep it 100 and say that this nerf is not really needed. Allow me to explain. I know it's going to sound biased because of me being in D5 but I just want to get this out. This gun only belongs to 1 class and 3 people having it. And for clarification it's the no land beyond that made it do the damage it was doing because of its exotic perk which grants the user a damage buff for a brief amount of time to their next target meaning one, not multiple. Second You should to take into consideration of how often we have one of our HCMD members on and how often they play. Who would this change mostly benefit? - "Everyone going against this gun in a fight." Now I can understand going 1 on 1 or maybe a squad. But consider your numbers you all usually get. This shouldn't be an issue. Not to mention how well equipped your guys classes are. You are on one of the best SF job's on the server and you're saying it's ruining player combat? If this were to be nerfed it would just ruin the combat experience for them when the commander of an MTF branch is weaker than a CI SF. The khovostov does 16.4 with armor and the ACOG does 23.3 with armor and yes this was tested earlier in-game and with the footage cyclone provided. It's pretty hypocritical suggestion to be honest. 4 hours ago, stitch said: Ok, so to avoid any confusion this is not the Khvostov that's causing the massive damage. It's the No Land Beyond that's causing the Khvostov to do that much damage. I did test this before killing and after killing with the NLB (No Land Beyond). In the description of the No Land Beyond: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2066337417&searchtext=no+land+beyond at the bottom of "Features from the game:" it has this: The Master Exotic Perk: Kills briefly increase damage against next target. So as long as I don't use the NLB the Khvostov doesn't take the perk from NLB and use it as its own. I have no intention to try to gain an advantage over anyone with this exploit, I only love this gun from D1 back in its prime. Just putting this and only this in instead of a + or a - support. And I know that commenting is only suppose to be putting a + or a -. Based on this, -Support as it isn't the gun doing it by the looks of it.Also your RCT's have the same health pool as Nu7 CMD and SEC SCMD || Retired GenSec || STARS || J04 "Crest" || Foul Tarnished || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 +Support Perk or not, this is still super broken, 480 in 4 hits. Change the NLB or just remove the perk. EX Head Of Staff SCP-RP | CI will forever be in my heart. 1/15/21 - 8/1/22 (CI CMDR Cosmic ITLY) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domo775 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Harrisonwilson1207 said: This gun only belongs to 1 class and 3 people having it. actually there’s two classes that have it... i’ve probably killed you more then once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxx Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Harrisonwilson1207 said: -Support Cyclone, I'm going to keep it 100 and say that this nerf is not really needed. Allow me to explain. I know it's going to sound biased because of me being in D5 but I just want to get this out. This gun only belongs to 1 class and 3 people having it. And for clarification it's the no land beyond that made it do the damage it was doing because of its exotic perk which grants the user a damage buff for a brief amount of time to their next target meaning one, not multiple. Second You should to take into consideration of how often we have one of our HCMD members on and how often they play. Who would this change mostly benefit? - "Everyone going against this gun in a fight." Now I can understand going 1 on 1 or maybe a squad. But consider your numbers you all usually get. This shouldn't be an issue. Not to mention how well equipped your guys classes are. You are on one of the best SF job's on the server and you're saying it's ruining player combat? If this were to be nerfed it would just ruin the combat experience for them when the commander of an MTF branch is weaker than a CI SF. The khovostov does 16.4 with armor and the ACOG does 23.3 with armor and yes this was tested earlier in-game and with the footage cyclone provided. It's pretty hypocritical suggestion to be honest. There should still be no gun out there that is this strong. +Support O5 Former: DT CPT , CGO - Tenn Graneet , 31st VCMDR -> Havoc CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, stitch said: -Support Going to replace the NLB for a weapon that doesn't cause the Khvostov to do damage like this. If you must insist on nerfing a gun, please direct it torwards NLB. I'm going to do my best to swap it. Khvostov Damage should be in an okay place with the server damage multiplier being 0.65 and the gun deals 45. He's already said he's changing it btw Edited January 23, 2022 by Meridian || Retired GenSec || STARS || J04 "Crest" || Foul Tarnished || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] funnyfish0 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 8 hours ago, TAlila | Tay Keith! said: +Support Completely unfair to anyone on the opposing side of this weapon, the clip says enough considering he 3 hit a fully maxed out SF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Grayson Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Cosmic The Italian said: +Support Perk or not, this is still super broken, 480 in 4 hits. Change the NLB or just remove the perk. bruh that perk is busted +support EX MAJ In MIL EX A2 In E4 Current VCMDR Of Sarkic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz L0g1c Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 11 hours ago, TAlila | Tay Keith! said: +Support Completely unfair to anyone on the opposing side of this weapon, the clip says enough considering he 3 hit a fully maxed out SF. W̵̠̽O̶̤̐̎͠R̷̨̯͇̘̓̓̐̚Ķ̶̨͙̌͗͋̐ ̷͎̻͈͘H̵̦̝̅́͝Ä̶̱̽R̷̔͊̀͜͠D̷̲̠̱͛͘ ̵̹̞͖͍̽͂Í̶̛̠́̎ͅÑ̶̟͈ ̸̭̖̋̀S̸̞̯͔̈́̍̈̽͜I̵̞̹̓͌̈́Ḹ̴͕̤̠̃Ë̶̘́͑Ṋ̵̰̞̀̏̄́C̸̼̱̏̑Ě̸͕̕͝ ̸͚͊͐͘Á̵̩̂̃N̶̩̦̈́Ḑ̷̲̣͐͐ ̷̨̣͇̄L̴̢̳̰̀̃E̸̙͗̏̕T̵̜́͛̿ ̴̝̯̠̐̇́S̸̠̣͋̆U̶̳̖̹̐C̶͙̩̽C̶̩̻̍̕E̷͈͖̓̈S̴͖͎̆͒͆͜S̸̥̞̗̠̀͌ ̶̫̩̬͂͛͝M̵͇̗͙͗͝͝A̶̛̬̦̾̿K̴̨̙̍ͅͅE̴̠͇̮͐͗́ ̵̳̲̅͑͝T̴͙͙̀̈́ͅH̶̢̎͛̈́̿E̴͈͖̹̔̂͝ ̴̹̯͓̂̈́N̶̦͌͒̔̎Ȍ̸̘͝I̴̭̠̅ͅS̸̭̼͋̕Ë̵́ A̵̙̥̭̠̓̅̎͘͝ͅ1̵̢̙̲̰̦̞͆͊ ̴̝̏́͑͂͝N̴̨͊̍o̸̖̦̬̅̑̇̍͠m̶̖̃a̸͉̤̜̪̘͑͌͝ḑ̶̘̣̬͇̈́ ̵͈̤̪͇̉͋̓̾Ỉ̴͓͔͍̻͖͕́͆͂̕͝ / Ş̵̧̛͙̙̼̌́͑̐͠T̶̢͔̫̿̓̿̅F̷̟̗̅̄̚ͅ ̷̝̈́̏̀̾̔̑D̸̰̓̾͌͝͝4̵̠̼̓̅̆͝͠ ̷̭̺͎̇H̸͚͖͇̃̀̋͘a̷̛͎͉̦̦̐̽́̑d̷̨͖͋e̵͍͒͆ś̵͈̪͓̞ ̸̣͉̄Ḍ̸̓I̶̩͖̖̟̯͒3̵̨̡̩͇̏̏ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran ♡ Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 12 hours ago, GarGar said: +support Bruh clip clearly speaks for itself. This shit needs changing asap. No gun should 3 shot any SF. 𝑅𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓇𝑒𝒹 𝒮𝒞𝒫-𝑅𝒫 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝒯𝑒𝒶𝓂 𝐿𝑒𝒶𝒹𝑒𝓇𝐼𝓂𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒾𝒶𝓁-𝑅𝒫 𝒢𝑒𝓃𝑒𝓇𝒶𝓁 / 𝟤𝟫𝓉𝒽 𝑜𝒻 𝑀𝒶𝓎 - 𝟨𝓉𝒽 𝑜𝒻 𝒜𝓊𝑔𝓊𝓈𝓉𝐻𝒶𝓋𝑜𝒸 𝒮𝑒𝓃𝒾𝑜𝓇 𝒞𝑜𝓂𝓂𝒶𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓇 / 𝟨𝓉𝒽 𝑜𝒻 𝐹𝑒𝒷𝓇𝓊𝒶𝓇𝓎 - 𝟤𝟫𝓉𝒽 𝑜𝒻 𝑀𝒶𝓎𝐸𝓍-𝒵𝑒𝓊𝓈 𝒢𝒶𝓂𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝒮𝓊𝓅𝑒𝓇𝒶𝒹𝓂𝒾𝓃 / 𝑅𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓇𝑒𝒹 𝒞𝒽𝒶𝑜𝓈 𝐼𝓃𝓈𝓊𝓇𝑔𝑒𝓃𝒸𝓎 𝒞𝑜𝓁𝑜𝓃𝑒𝓁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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