Yato Sensei Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) What are you suggesting? - So me and Fusion talked about this yesterday and we've noticed that the Auger has been silently nerfed and is in a very bad spot at the moment. What I'm suggesting as a base point is to have the damage increased by 3 or 4 points and increase the mag size from 65 -> 70. This would bring up the auger to some sort of a standard since pretty much any other LMG on the server is doing better than it now. (except maybe the m249 but we don't talk about that.) TL;DR: Auger very weak right now. Increase damage by 3 or 4 points, mag size 65 -> 70. How would this change better the server? - The server? The impact won't be huge since the weapon is only on Behemoth/A Few CCs but I'm sure that the jobs will get more activity if the weapon gets a slight buff. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - For a disadvantage? None really, I haven't seen anyone say that the weapon is unbalanced or needs a nerf. Who would this change mostly benefit? - Behemoths/CC Owners with the auger. Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - None. Edited October 31, 2021 by Yato Sensei Joined 09/30/2020Retired 11/12/2022Former Security SFC || Former MTF Omi9 MSGT || Former CI CPT/MAJ || Former Nu7 LTCOL/VCMDR || Former E11 CPL || Former Maintenance Professional || Former D5 CPT || Former Senior Medic || Former Advanced Researcher | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionThunder Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 +Support *Insert tf2 heavy screams* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Auger isn't allowed on cc's this will only benefit behemoth. Auger is good right now. +/- SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nydekore Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Some Weeb said: Auger isn't allowed on cc's this will only benefit behemoth. Auger is good right now. +/- Have you tested it? Former: Deputy Head of Research | MTF Nu-7 Captain x2 | SCPRP Super Admin | MTF O-1 Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, Nydekore said: Have you tested it? I use dual augers mainly I'll test it today and get back to you. SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yato Sensei Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 38 minutes ago, Some Weeb said: I use dual augers mainly I'll test it today and get back to you. Dual Augers and Normal are completely different weapons. Test out the normal one. Joined 09/30/2020Retired 11/12/2022Former Security SFC || Former MTF Omi9 MSGT || Former CI CPT/MAJ || Former Nu7 LTCOL/VCMDR || Former E11 CPL || Former Maintenance Professional || Former D5 CPT || Former Senior Medic || Former Advanced Researcher | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Yato Sensei said: Dual Augers and Normal are completely different weapons. Test out the normal one. I am sorry :*( SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Some Weeb said: Auger isn't allowed on cc's this will only benefit behemoth. Auger is good right now. +/- BHM is incredibly under powered. its primary function is being a tank class and yet it has the same hitpoints as most special forces whitelists. if it cant be super tanky it should at the very least have a reliable suppressive weapon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnarledBison Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Catalyst said: BHM is incredibly under powered. its primary function is being a tank class and yet it has the same hitpoints as most special forces whitelists. if it cant be super tanky it should at the very least have a reliable suppressive weapon Comparing a class for enlisted to SF isn't a good idea. Comparing it to other heavy classes such as CI heavy would make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, SnarledBison said: Comparing a class for enlisted to SF isn't a good idea. Comparing it to other heavy classes such as CI heavy would make more sense. Fair point, but that doesn't change my stance. Most "heavy" classes aren't really packing any good firepower as of current, they just need a bit of an armory boost, especially since CE and BHM are dedicated sub branches, and not just VIP jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionThunder Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, SnarledBison said: Comparing a class for enlisted to SF isn't a good idea. Comparing it to other heavy classes such as CI heavy would make more sense. Fair point, but Behemoths are built to be tanky bois and with the current state of the auger the tankiness isnt put to much use at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilThinMints Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Augers are really bad but only on one class I think. They could Def get a buff but nothing insane +support pog Free Melly Free TayK Free Fetty Wap Free Pooh Shiesty Current Rank/s: none dumbass Former Ranks: E11 2LT, CI SM, RND SVA, Gen-Sec MSGT, Nu7 SGT, RRH Guardians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucarioKing Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Not goona lie. Why would like to buff the Auger? I like the idea, but that's only for Behemoths It already has good damage, good fire rate, and really good clips size. I think this is extremely unnecessary.- Support What is the point if I can't use it LOL. (P.S what they nerf about?) ︎︎︎︎︎︎︎︎🗐︎ | Owner CC: CI TF2 Heavy (without Auger)| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yato Sensei Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 6 hours ago, LucarioKing said: Not goona lie. Why would like to buff the Auger? I like the idea, but that's only for Behemoths It already has good damage, good fire rate, and really good clips size. I think this is extremely unnecessary.- Support What is the point if I can't use it LOL. (P.S what they nerf about?) Good damage and clip size? Absolutely not. 30 damage is beyond terrible, it takes a lot of bullets to kill one person and 65 then become a pretty small amount. Also they nerfed the damage of it quite hard. You haven't used it since. Joined 09/30/2020Retired 11/12/2022Former Security SFC || Former MTF Omi9 MSGT || Former CI CPT/MAJ || Former Nu7 LTCOL/VCMDR || Former E11 CPL || Former Maintenance Professional || Former D5 CPT || Former Senior Medic || Former Advanced Researcher | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasterr Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 +support seems fair auger is bad and need buff!! removed ci general toaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucarioKing Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) On 10/8/2021 at 11:08 PM, Yato Sensei said: Good damage and clip size? Absolutely not. 30 damage is beyond terrible, it takes a lot of bullets to kill one person and 65 then become a pretty small amount. Also they nerfed the damage of it quite hard. You haven't used it since. I HAVE used the Auger before on my CC (CI TF2 Heavy). I got it after they buffed the Auger, and the damage was still the same at 30. It was a GOOD weapon to have. I remember it well! Maybe just reduce the recoil just a tiny bit, and you have a good Auger. It doesn't need to increase damage and clips size. And plus, I wish it wasn't a blacklisted weapon. If it wasn't blacklisted, I'll keep it forever before they made it! Edited October 10, 2021 by LucarioKing 1 1 ︎︎︎︎︎︎︎︎🗐︎ | Owner CC: CI TF2 Heavy (without Auger)| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Dice Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) On 10/9/2021 at 12:08 AM, Yato Sensei said: Good damage and clip size? Absolutely not. 30 damage is beyond terrible, it takes a lot of bullets to kill one person and 65 then become a pretty small amount. Also they nerfed the damage of it quite hard. You haven't used it since. Also to add on to this it takes about 22/25 body shots to kill someone that isn't just standing next to you and 11 to 14 headshots, comparing those numbers to most of the guns that are used on this server they are abysmal. And that not even counting if you miss shots because of people manipulating there hitbox's, so yes I really do believe that this gun needs a buff and it got nerfed for no real reason. Please don't respond to this saying "just aim better or get gud" because that's not a valid argument to a state of a weapons viability. +SUPPORT Edited October 10, 2021 by Demon Dice Demonically Inspired ..Nu7 CMDR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodman Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 7:08 AM, Yato Sensei said: Good damage and clip size? Absolutely not. 30 damage is beyond terrible, it takes a lot of bullets to kill one person and 65 then become a pretty small amount. Also they nerfed the damage of it quite hard. You haven't used it since. +support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fryingpan36 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 2:59 PM, LucarioKing said: Not goona lie. Why would like to buff the Auger? I like the idea, but that's only for Behemoths It already has good damage, good fire rate, and really good clips size. I think this is extremely unnecessary. ^ although it hurts me this is true -Support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 9:31 PM, LucarioKing said: I HAVE used the Auger before on my CC (CI TF2 Heavy). I got it after they buffed the Auger, and the damage was still the same at 30. It was a GOOD weapon to have. I remember it well! Maybe just reduce the recoil just a tiny bit, and you have a good Auger. It doesn't need to increase damage and clips size. And plus, I wish it wasn't a blacklisted weapon. If it wasn't blacklisted, I'll keep it forever before they made it! SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Salvador Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) I've seen weapons being far stronger than this and no calls for a nerf. If it's only one class taking the buff and with the 'size' of the buff, I'd say it won't do any harm. If anything, it'll make it a bit more balanced. If not the damage, then definitely buff the damage falloff so it has more suppressive power. +Support Edited October 20, 2021 by Sgt. Salvador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashe Fox Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 +Support 30 damage is absolute doo doo, buff that gun this instant! The best D class player to ever exist UwU >:3 Security best branch Owns: D-3621 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumpTruck Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ashe Fox said: +Support 30 damage is absolute doo doo, buff that gun this instant! Former RRH Analyst X-ray 39 Former D1 Deimos I Former DDOP of RnD [CC's] Deadshot-Engineer-Snoop Dog-MTF-Alpha-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 +Support bad gun needs buff especially because it is minigun jobs. Former: 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐃𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐫 - 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐀𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprink Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 4:47 AM, Toasterr said: +support seems fair auger is bad and need buff!! Deputy Head of Security | Executive Event Team | Admin | Forum Diplomat | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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