General Suggestion - Save us from the pain - Denied

[The Apple]

What are you suggesting? - Remove the Dr Bright Class

How would this change better the server? - While I get it is a donor class that has been around for so long it's time is up, It has been nothing but a harbinger of minginess and causes constant issues with the server and peoples attempts to do stuff

Recent Incidents Include
Multiple Data Breachs
Releasing SCPs
Cuffing Random People
Interupting Tests
Horrific Mic Spam

It is more than just a couple people and the class has outlived it's utility and enjoyment and has just become an absolute blight on the server

Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - Gold+ Donors would lose 1 job

Who would this change mostly benefit? - Everyone who enjoys the server in a none mingy state

[Toasterr]

+/- Support

- As Stated lately some minges have been going on and breaching SCPs.

- Could Help the server due to minges.

- For the people that want to RP, it could affect them

- Maybe just raise the donator requirement.

[OWNED]

+/- Support

While I completely agree with the fact that every person that gets on bright just uses it as a "freebie" to minge around,

claiming they are a "mad scientist so its ok".

HOWEVER, I dont believe removing the class is the way to go about it

I think there should be much heavier restrictions and rules set on bright to reduce this kind of stuff from happening

maybe like whenever bright looks like hes doing something suspicious, MTF/ high ranking Gensec can do something to stop it from happening like a roll off or something along those lines.

while I dont completely agree with the idea of removing it, I wouldnt mind if it was cause Its honestly not even funny when someone elses RP gets ruined just cause some guy wants to screw around on bright.

[Disgraced Merchant]

- support




No.

[Rookieblue]

Would changing Bright to be similar to how Maynard currently works be beneficial? Maynard is a whitelist that requires that you be in CI, and chosen for it by CI command. This could solve many of the issues.

[Star]

-Support
This job is meant to be a class to "try out" the Research division.
Completing removing the class isn't a viable option, but rather, a rework of the class to make it provide for less mingy behaviour would be better.
Staff should enforce punishments on Bright more often, as violating the Research SOP would constitute a warn for FailRP - Violating Branch SOP.

With a future branch update, hopefully Dr. Bright will be fixed in a manner to make it more of a class like Nu-7 Containment Specialist, rather than a class to minge on.

[The Apple]

12 minutes ago, Rookieblue said:

Would changing Bright to be similar to how Maynard currently works be beneficial? Maynard is a whitelist that requires that you be in CI, and chosen for it by CI command. This could solve many of the issues.

Well I think that would work in solving my issues I would reckon you'd wanna bring it up to research high command

[NeoID]

9 hours ago, Rookieblue said:

Would changing Bright to be similar to how Maynard currently works be beneficial? Maynard is a whitelist that requires that you be in CI, and chosen for it by CI command. This could solve many of the issues.

That’s an idea. Though, it would require giving Bright a purpose rather than just being a minge job. With Maynard, it’s to cause Chaos, Distractions, and problems for the foundation. Not sure how you’d do something like that for Bright

[Former DHOR D]

9 hours ago, Starstep said:

-Support
This job is meant to be a class to "try out" the Research division.
Completing removing the class isn't a viable option, but rather, a rework of the class to make it provide for less mingy behaviour would be better.
Staff should enforce punishments on Bright more often, as violating the Research SOP would constitute a warn for FailRP - Violating Branch SOP.

With a future branch update, hopefully Dr. Bright will be fixed in a manner to make it more of a class like Nu-7 Containment Specialist, rather than a class to minge on.

 

[Phillers]

I'd say to rework it rather then remove it.

I feel like I have to say that the argument that Bright is a class to "try out" research is not really valid. Bright is a gold donator class, in general people who have bought gold have had more then enough time to join a starter branch.

[The Apple]

4 hours ago, NeoID said:

That’s an idea. Though, it would require giving Bright a purpose rather than just being a minge job. With Maynard, it’s to cause Chaos, Distractions, and problems for the foundation. Not sure how you’d do something like that for Bright

I mean the purpose could be allowing people to do crazy tests and Dr Bright style shit

[Southpaw]

13 hours ago, Rookieblue said:

Would changing Bright to be similar to how Maynard currently works be beneficial? Maynard is a whitelist that requires that you be in CI, and chosen for it by CI command. This could solve many of the issues.

I feel that changing bright to how Maynard is would cause a few issues, but some could be worked out. Maybe the whole "killing, breaching, etc" could be gotten rid of? Because right now Bright is already a pain, but im not sure what he would do without those if he were to end up similar to Maynard. He is a Foundation doctor after all and not a traitor. Maybe we could get him to have a few new rules that could make him a "regulated" Maynard?

 

12 minutes ago, The Apple said:

I mean the purpose could be allowing people to do crazy tests and Dr Bright style shit

While crazy tests would be cool from bright, what is going to stop security from denying him with an escort or research from trusting him with tests? MTF would shoot him at the first sight of a code bright in seconds. Then we have to think about the Bright tests. What is going to stop some people from just breaching the SCP on accident or on purpose, saying its "just my style" in a way? We could just have to have him supervised by research members when hes testing on something?

While these ideas could be useful, bright is also for "trying out" research as Starstep said. Another think he said was "Staff should enforce bright rules for often" Which could work, but it really depends on what staff decides.

It all really depends on what Research High Command decide on what they want to do with bright.

+/- Support for now.

[Jack (utility one)]

Heres something. Just make bright hcmd picked. And whoever is on the job can do anything. I think a fun and uncontrollable researcher sounds hella fun. Basically like the 05 researcher just more chaotic and crazy.

[Nenea Tanti]

On 4/26/2021 at 5:07 AM, Starstep said:

-Support
This job is meant to be a class to "try out" the Research division.
Completing removing the class isn't a viable option, but rather, a rework of the class to make it provide for less mingy behaviour would be better.
Staff should enforce punishments on Bright more often, as violating the Research SOP would constitute a warn for FailRP - Violating Branch SOP.

With a future branch update, hopefully Dr. Bright will be fixed in a manner to make it more of a class like Nu-7 Containment Specialist, rather than a class to minge on.

 

[Alexxxx]

On 4/26/2021 at 6:43 PM, Jack (utility one) said:

Heres something. Just make bright hcmd picked. And whoever is on the job can do anything. I think a fun and uncontrollable researcher sounds hella fun. Basically like the 05 researcher just more chaotic and crazy.

Would be just a minge Job in the end of the day. Also I actually saw some people that RPed on Dr.Bright lately without breaking a Motd rule which Was pretty cool to see.

Edited April 29, 2021 by [GL] Deez

[OWNED]

On 4/25/2021 at 10:01 PM, Rookieblue said:

Would changing Bright to be similar to how Maynard currently works be beneficial? Maynard is a whitelist that requires that you be in CI, and chosen for it by CI command. This could solve many of the issues.

Im with rookie on this one

I feel what makes bright so annoying is his easy of accessibility. anyone with 40 bucks to waste can just jump on him whenever and minge around.

Changing Bright to that the person has to be a part of the research branch AND be picked by high command would fix a lot of the minges getting onto the class and leave it to a handful of people who can be trusted not to just be a nuisance.

[BadAim]

On 4/25/2021 at 9:07 PM, Starstep said:

-Support
This job is meant to be a class to "try out" the Research division.
Completing removing the class isn't a viable option, but rather, a rework of the class to make it provide for less mingy behaviour would be better.
Staff should enforce punishments on Bright more often, as violating the Research SOP would constitute a warn for FailRP - Violating Branch SOP.

With a future branch update, hopefully Dr. Bright will be fixed in a manner to make it more of a class like Nu-7 Containment Specialist, rather than a class to minge on.

 

[Judas_]

On 4/25/2021 at 11:07 PM, Starstep said:

-Support
This job is meant to be a class to "try out" the Research division.
Completing removing the class isn't a viable option, but rather, a rework of the class to make it provide for less mingy behaviour would be better.
Staff should enforce punishments on Bright more often, as violating the Research SOP would constitute a warn for FailRP - Violating Branch SOP.

With a future branch update, hopefully Dr. Bright will be fixed in a manner to make it more of a class like Nu-7 Containment Specialist, rather than a class to minge on.

Also i have seen lower rank enlisted minge in the same ways, i guess donators use bright to FLEX

And maybe the keycard ofc, but we can swap for now the keycard for lvl 2, and still say he has lvl 3 clearence so when hes escorted he can go to HCZ, that way mtf will be always with him and they just AOS bright if he tries anything, but let him roam around in LCZ

[Coltable]

On 4/26/2021 at 3:01 AM, Rookieblue said:

Would changing Bright to be similar to how Maynard currently works be beneficial? Maynard is a whitelist that requires that you be in CI, and chosen for it by CI command. This could solve many of the issues.

If we can come up with a replacement job for the Gold+ rank then id +Support this idea. 

 

[Its Buck]

In all fairness if you want to try research than get trained, if it’s not your type then leave.

Im with re working bright to be like Maynard 

[Cloaker]

-Support

1. If someone is breaking a branches SOP on a donator job they should be punished, Dr.Bright's RP can be "mingy" at times but if they do anything extreme (example: "Releasing SCPs") they should be punished.
2. When I played Dr.Bright it wasn't to get a feel for the branch, it was to be able to research without needing to be in the branch, attend meetings, and etc.
3. Dr.Bright wasn't made like Maynard for multiple reasons, mainly because he would be useless as a research whitelist job, Maynard is a whitelist job as he plays a vital role in CI which is to spy on the foundation, unlike Dr.Bright.
4. The research branch already has a vast amount of whitelist jobs (RIG, HMR, RFA, and Foundation Doctor).
5. Dr.Bright is the only donator job that research has, if you were to remove it or make it a whitelist job another job would be have to put in place.

[DooM Guy]

Honestly this is probably one of my least favorite suggestions

Bright gang wya

-Support

[Rangiatea]

Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason.