Jack S Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) What are you suggesting? - Shades to not be allowed to kill people in RP. How would this change better the server? - This makes branches that heavily rely on RP not much a bad time when shades murders them in the middle of test. This makes it so people who may be new and do their tests and CI raid, do not have to worry about shades killing them. Also when CS are trying to prevent a breach and shades just kills them. (CS can't call out CI) This just heavily deters all players who play heavy RP branches that rely on such things. Edit: I think a good compromise would be not killing CS which is a utility class that isn't allowed to have a weapon, if a person on CS is found with a weapon the role can be removed, furthermore they are not allowed to call out CI. Are there any disadvantages of making this change to the server? If so, explain. - CI will most likely not like this change as it restricts their ability to kill foundation personnel a bit. Who would this change mostly benefit? - Research, medical, & Utility. Please link any workshop content, screenshots, or anything that you think may be helpful to those who view this suggestion - N/a Edited September 8, 2020 by [GL] loudyfam (Jack S) Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 -support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skela Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 -Support. This is limiting CI’s RP. Anyways it’s only limited to E4 because it’s a SF, they’re meant to be undercover and be unnoticed. Anyhow Phill and I are talking about this. You already reported this issue to me (well your high command) and I told them I’ll look into it. Yuh imm@ Thash Dat B¡tch!!*^€{ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 -support The E4 division is a heavily REDACTED group. Also, they are CI's SF. As Skela said, they're meant to be undercover and be unnoticed. While I could understand that non-combatant branches may be infuriated with how much E4 kills them. However, E4 in lore wouldn't care much about some researchers that are in-RP if it were for their survival. 1 hour ago, [GL] loudyfam (Jack S) said: Also when CS are trying to prevent a breach and shades just kills them. (CS can't call out CI) and I pretty sure that CS can call out E4 if they attack you, correct me if I am wrong though. - hope osu! achiever? I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hope said: -support The E4 division is a heavily REDACTED group. Also, they are CI's SF. As Skela said, they're meant to be undercover and be unnoticed. While I could understand that non-combatant branches may be infuriated with how much E4 kills them. However, E4 in lore wouldn't care much about some researchers that are in-RP if it were for their survival. and I pretty sure that CS can call out E4 if they attack you, correct me if I am wrong though. - hope Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rektify Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Hope said: -support The E4 division is a heavily REDACTED group. Also, they are CI's SF. As Skela said, they're meant to be undercover and be unnoticed. While I could understand that non-combatant branches may be infuriated with how much E4 kills them. However, E4 in lore wouldn't care much about some researchers that are in-RP if it were for their survival. and I pretty sure that CS can call out E4 if they attack you, correct me if I am wrong though. - hope -Support. Sorry chief. ~Your Local SCP Lead Admin~ Aka: Rekti-HighThe REAL Don Godfather 527 | CEO of the Minge Team | The Baby Joe | Leader of the Fish Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Skela said: -Support. This is limiting CI’s RP. Anyways it’s only limited to E4 because it’s a SF, they’re meant to be undercover and be unnoticed. Anyhow Phill and I are talking about this. You already reported this issue to me (well your high command) and I told them I’ll look into it. 1 hour ago, Hope said: -support The E4 division is a heavily REDACTED group. Also, they are CI's SF. As Skela said, they're meant to be undercover and be unnoticed. While I could understand that non-combatant branches may be infuriated with how much E4 kills them. However, E4 in lore wouldn't care much about some researchers that are in-RP if it were for their survival. and I pretty sure that CS can call out E4 if they attack you, correct me if I am wrong though. - hope Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hope said: -support The E4 division is a heavily REDACTED group. Also, they are CI's SF. As Skela said, they're meant to be undercover and be unnoticed. While I could understand that non-combatant branches may be infuriated with how much E4 kills them. However, E4 in lore wouldn't care much about some researchers that are in-RP if it were for their survival. and I pretty sure that CS can call out E4 if they attack you, correct me if I am wrong though. - hope Researcher: Doing an HCZ Experiment and sees CI. CI: Welp he's in RP so I guess I can't kill him. Researcher: CI RAID!!!!11!1!!!1!11!!!!!! CI: Edited September 8, 2020 by Sixx [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack S Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Skela said: -Support. This is limiting CI’s RP. Anyways it’s only limited to E4 because it’s a SF, they’re meant to be undercover and be unnoticed. Anyhow Phill and I are talking about this. You already reported this issue to me (well your high command) and I told them I’ll look into it. So I see where your coming from, but you also have to understand certain sub branches are not even allowed to have a weapon, you can be removed from said sub branch if found buying a weapon from armory. When you can't do anything about shades just murdering you and then saying this in OOC after you try to explain you can't even own a weapon. Also yes, thank you for looking into it, this is just to have the rules tweaked a bit to make everyones experience better. It would even be perfect to do a compromise. Not kill certain classes who are not even allowed to call out CI, or even acknowledge them. Edited September 8, 2020 by [GL] loudyfam (Jack S) Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAim Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 (edited) -support There are branches and sub-divisions dedicated to guarding each zone If you are in HCZ (where CI is usually spotted) you should have an escort who you should get to escort you back to LCZ if CI is spotted Honestly just use common sense and run to bunks or a panic room like any utility/researcher would if a Foundation-hating GOI was raiding the site, especially if their Special Forces are spearheading the raid. Also, if you can’t finish a test log due to a raid, you can always just use what you have and either finish the log by saying “test log cut short by GOI raid, another attempt to complete the log will be made once the foundation is secure”, or by pretending that the raid never happened and make up the rest of the log. Edited September 8, 2020 by BadAim Retired Imperial RP Super Admin and Grand General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, BadAim said: -support There are branches and sub-divisions dedicated to guarding each zone If you are in HCZ (where CI is usually spotted) you should have an escort who you should get to escort you back to LCZ if CI is spotted Honestly just use common sense and run to bunks or a panic room like any utility/researcher would if a Foundation-hating GOI was raiding the site, especially if their Special Forces are spearheading the raid. Also, if you can’t finish a test log due to a raid, you can always just use what you have and either finish the log by saying “test log cut short by GOI raid, another attempt to complete the log will be made once the foundation is secure”, or by pretending that the raid never happened and make up the rest of the log. Add an audio log of the raid interrupting the test. That's always really cool to see in logs. -Support for suggestions CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowymax Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 12 hours ago, Hope said: and I pretty sure that CS can call out E4 if they attack you, correct me if I am wrong though. Containment Specialists cannot call out CI under any circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillers Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Already looking into a better resolution for this problem with Skela. "Without morals, are we truly any better than the things we've set ourselves to contain?" EX-Site Director | EX-Super Admin | EX-Event Team Lead | Otter Lover | Regardless of what SMT Says, not a furry. | R&D Senior Inspector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skela Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, [GL] loudyfam (Jack S) said: It would even be perfect to do a compromise. Not kill certain classes who are not even allowed to call out CI, or even acknowledge them. ^ It ruins the RP for E4. This is honestly a SiteAdmin type of post that should’ve been addressed with me. However from what bad aim has to say pretty much sums this up. 1 hour ago, BadAim said: -support There are branches and sub-divisions dedicated to guarding each zone If you are in HCZ (where CI is usually spotted) you should have an escort who you should get to escort you back to LCZ if CI is spotted Honestly just use common sense and run to bunks or a panic room like any utility/researcher would if a Foundation-hating GOI was raiding the site, especially if their Special Forces are spearheading the raid. Also, if you can’t finish a test log due to a raid, you can always just use what you have and either finish the log by saying “test log cut short by GOI raid, another attempt to complete the log will be made once the foundation is secure”, or by pretending that the raid never happened and make up the rest of the log. This will only make E4 downgraded. Not revealing anything but our purpose is to cause chaos, and if you’re in the way of the E4 action, they have the right to shoot. 2 minutes ago, Falxen said: Already looking into a better resolution for this problem with Skela. Yuh imm@ Thash Dat B¡tch!!*^€{ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack (utility one) Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I think his point is E4 should kill non-combatants if they feel it's necessary like blocking the narrow paths in LCZ or stuff like that. But they actively target non-combatants and in times focus them more than combattants. I understand why they can kill and I'm cool with that but when they focus us OVER someone who is blasting them then I feel it becomes an issue. Site admins are talking about so hopefully they come to a good o'le agreement. There are gods in Alabama: Jack Daniel's, high school quarterbacks, trucks, big tits, and also Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack S Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jack (utility one) said: I think his point is E4 should kill non-combatants if they feel it's necessary like blocking the narrow paths in LCZ or stuff like that. But they actively target non-combatants and in times focus them more than combattants. I understand why they can kill and I'm cool with that but when they focus us OVER someone who is blasting them then I feel it becomes an issue. Site admins are talking about so hopefully they come to a good o'le agreement. I would agree to that. Retired DHOS || Former Wardens Comissioner Caligula || Former SRIC in R&D || Former OH8 Funni [Redacted] Man | | Retired OPSV in Maintenance || Former MMF Duck || Former HLPR Bot AC3 || Retired 2LT in E-11 || Former Head Field Scout || Former Ranger Pax || former ET || Former Omicron-9 CPT || Former OM9 EXP Delta | PoliceRP: PD LCPL | SCU LT "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard. " -John F Kennedy, Rice University, Sept. 12, 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protoss Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 54 minutes ago, Jack (utility one) said: I think his point is E4 should kill non-combatants if they feel it's necessary like blocking the narrow paths in LCZ or stuff like that. But they actively target non-combatants and in times focus them more than combattants. The last time we had a "Kill utility only when necessary rule", CI HCMD have had complaint after complaint that Utility weren't holding their side of the bargain. I highly doubt it will ever comeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igneous Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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