ligist Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) Questions Your in game name: DD ligist Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:140212035 The admin's steam name: [GL] utetwo What warning did you receive: RDM Evidence of the warn: Why do you think this warn was false: I cant shoot through a wall, and i didn't realize i hit, or killed him. Any extra information: i was doing a money silo, and swat were peeking a corner, and so i kept shooting, and i might of shot him on accident if he got in the way. But i don't know for certain. If i did shoot him it would have been a misclick since the swat must have moved. And i think i killed a Crip who walked in, but once again i don't remember for certain, it all happened so fast, but i do know, because i tried really hard and it took a minute, that i was trying to hit swat the were trying to peek. there was also a hobo that walked in and i shot him too, but there was a KOS sign. Edited October 6, 2019 by ligist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilGoat Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I agree on the false warn not because I am in DD but you can not shoot through a wall. Tmods make wrong calls sometimes but he might not have gotten the whole story or was confused! EMS Deputy (LC) | Founder of Diamond Dogs (2018) | Former FBI SAIC | 5 Year Community Member | Former Admin | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weasel Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 +support As an ex-staff, i can say for sure that the location logging in plogs are kind of inaccurate. I was there, and judging by the situation, it was perfectly fine to snipe from that angle. Especially considering all gov usually line up on the wall before breach. I think it was a false warn judging by context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxic_Wolf10 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lil Goat said: I agree on the false warn not because I am in DD but you can not shoot through a wall. Tmods make wrong calls sometimes but he might not have gotten the whole story or was confused! ToxicWolf~ State Police Captain 1H08/ CERT SM 1CT37 / Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zirados Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 +support things happen while your being raided, i've been rdm'd while people were raiding, and because its an accident i dont really throw a fit, mainly because throwing fits for things you can handle yourselves is silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay? Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 +support there is always panic from both sides in a gov raid, so most likely it was just a panic shot cause something peeked the door in the middle of a gov raid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredgen Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Nice head glitch. PoliceRP: Former PD LT. ImperialRP: Starkiller, former 8th Brother, StarFighter Vice Marshall, 501st CPT, and Admin. MilitaryRP: Captain Price, former USAF Lieutenant Colonel.JVS: Former Darth Vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ligist Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 What do you mean nice head glitch, i wasn't glitching. i don't even know how to head glitch Dredgen. and im not saying that in a mean way, or in a pissed way, just confused as to how one would head glitch on this server. sorry if i do sound mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredgen Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Basically you can see them but they can barely see you making it extremely hard to kill you if in that position which appears you were taking advantage of which is against the rules. PoliceRP: Former PD LT. ImperialRP: Starkiller, former 8th Brother, StarFighter Vice Marshall, 501st CPT, and Admin. MilitaryRP: Captain Price, former USAF Lieutenant Colonel.JVS: Former Darth Vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackOG Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) -Support I was the one who called the sit, before you quote this and start a argument, read my entire post. I called the sit expecting to here that it was crossfire and I would accept it and continue my day, but when I heard the reason I persisted the sit with intention of a verbal warning or warning. I was sitting outside my base, my parking garage base. I was standing and I was shot 4 times in the head, I thought maybe it was crossfire and mabye it wasnt, I decided to call staff and here your explanation. You said I crossed your KOS sign and entered your base, which I did not, and the logs show when and where you instigated combat and shot me, I was not near the inside of your base. The staff member made the right decision, you then after realizing that your argument was not going to work completely changed your story and started saying it was crossfire along with your friends to help you continue this argument, while contradicting yourself it was obvious you RDM'd me and tried to make a excuse to get away with it. Best regards, Jack OG Edited October 6, 2019 by JackOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ligist Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 I wasn't, if you look at the extra info it says it there was a money silo, and PD/Swat were raiding, i didn't mean to shoot him, swat was peeking the corner that i was aimed at in the photo. i was attempting to kill swat. I didn't even realize him. sorry is there was any confusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackOG Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Lets all stop arguing about weather or not it was a head glitch. This is about a warn appeal, Ligist please dont respond to it and incite arguments. Leave your -Support or +Support and leave the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ligist Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) okay Jack, i didn't change my story, and it would be stupid of me to try to kill you while being raided by Swat, and if i did RDM you on purpose, what motive did i have, and why would i do it while being raided? also i will try to defend myself, i don't think it was a fair warn, and ill take up my argument, if you would like me to stop defending myself, tell SMT, and have one comment on the post tell me to stop replying. and if i remember correctly, while Swat and people were still raiding, a hobo, and what looked like a Crip walked in. so I'm sorry i hit you, but please don't be butt hurt about it, and try to understand myside, i was being raided, and could barely see out the hole they were shooting at me from. if you have an issue with me my discord is logistics#9840, PM me your issues, I've changed a fair amount since my last warns, and the one Mikey gave me most recently was an accident on my part, i have 4 weeks on the server, and genuinely enjoy it, and I'm not gonna ruin that, it was an accident that i killed you, so even if this post does fail, and no one see's its an accident, then i will try to get the warn changed to misclick, since that would be what it is. and also from the ledge i was on, you cant exactly see names, i thought you were the one who walked in. so sorry for me being confused. Edited October 6, 2019 by ligist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Steve Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 @utetwo need your side. Also let's stop the arguing from here on please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ligist Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 Yes sir, sorry for arguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Admin [GL] Mikey Posted October 6, 2019 Head Admin Share Posted October 6, 2019 +SUPPORT I was there for some of the sit and idk how he shot him through the wall i think the warn is false You know who I am, unless you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head of Staff Will Posted October 6, 2019 Head of Staff Share Posted October 6, 2019 + Support Should have been a verbal warning at the very least if there was no evidence provided (again, still need to hear from @utetwo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy James Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Zirados said: +support things happen while your being raided, i've been rdm'd while people were raiding, and because its an accident i dont really throw a fit, mainly because throwing fits for things you can handle yourselves is silly +support i highly diubt it was an intentional hit and if you are getti g raided you will shoot anybody at your door so if you are hanging out around a raid its your own fault for being hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stsin Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Will (WTLM2013) said: + Support Should have been a verbal warning at the very least if there was no evidence provided (again, still need to hear from @utetwo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark123456 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 -support at the start of the post you said you didnt see him and shot thru the wall fair maybe? but later on in the post you say "i thought you were the one who walked in. so sorry for me being confused." so did you not see him or did you think he walked in because those are 2 different stories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utetwo Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) +Support The logs, for whatever reason, failed to show the wall, in front of his line of sight. I assumed that he was a bit above the wall, and had deliberately shot him. The fact that the victim was shot several times had a lot to do with my decision. However with new evidence that has arised, I can tell that ligist did not have any malicious intent. To be honest, I was getting pressured to make a decision. The sit had dragged on for over ten minutes, and because I couldn't take the victim (a moderator) up to the roof, I was surrounded by DD members attempting to convince me to let ligist go. I being watched by a admin, as well. I sincerely apologise for any inconveniences this may have caused you and hope the situation can be resolved shortly. Edited October 6, 2019 by utetwo fixed title 1 Currently a member of the Support Team, SRT, Dispatcher, EMS, and PD SM. Former Senior moderator, SWAT, Event Team, Secret Service, DD, and State Police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Holland Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 + support logs can be confusing utetwo admitted he made a mistake look these things happen, people make mistakes latest they can be fixed and staff member should be ready for the next sit he gets like this. its all a big leaning point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sion Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, Max Holland said: + support logs can be confusing utetwo admitted he made a mistake look these things happen, people make mistakes latest they can be fixed and staff member should be ready for the next sit he gets like this. its all a big leaning point. 'you may see my struggle, but you won't see me quit' 'Success depends on the second letter' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 15 hours ago, Will (WTLM2013) said: + Support Should have been a verbal warning at the very least if there was no evidence provided (again, still need to hear from @utetwo). Gaminglight PoliceRP Retired Superadmin “Genius is one percent inspiration, ninety-nine percent perspiration.” “There are no shortcuts to any place worth going.” “You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL]MyanDaBeast Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Accepted Go into the ban panel (at the top it says ban) sign in, go to your profile, go to your warn and click appeal. Fill the information out and in the description put the link to this in it. 1 PoliceRP I Head Admin I PD: Colonel I Retired SWAT Commander I Deputy Sheriff I ImperialRP I Retired Grand Inquisitor I 47th Battalion I Chimaera Legion I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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