Tomato Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 The $100 Warn Wipe just a cash grab by the admins to attempt to bring back players to the server. This warn wipe is designed to bring back the worst members of the server instead of promoting new players. Here are some reasons this is a bad product to sell: 1. There are not alot of players still around from 2019 to 2020 that actively play on the server in the first place. 2. Most players have a warn or two from silly mistakes they made when they first joined the server. They have learned from their experiences and bettered themselves. I am an example of this. This warn wipe is for people who have so many warns they either left the server entirely or were banned. 3. The people who NEED this warn wipe are people we dont want on the server anyways. These are the people who didnt ever try to improve and just kept acting like idiots and ignoring the rules until they either left or were banned. 4. Warns should go away after a certain amount of time anyways. Asking for money to remove a warn is scummy. If it was something like $1 a warn then sure but $100 is insane. This warn wipe will attract toxic people back to this community and allow them an easy way back into the server. Why should they try and change when they could just pay their way back into the server and pick up where they left off not following rules and ruining the server (like ZJ)? Work on attracting new members to the community instead of trying to get kids to buy their way back in. -Tomato 1 Former DHOR Tomato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazza Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 to be honest just keeping warns from when you started are like showing how far you've come for the better or the worse. don't wipe your warns wear that shit like a badge of honor Freedom at last. Former: Assistant Inspector, Head of Longshot, Research Assistant Supervisor & Operations Supervisor, G.O.C. Officer & Head of bulldozers, CI COL, EOI D-2, DJ Former: Scout Captain, Second Lieutenant, Senior Crewman, Storm Commando Captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owner Popular Post Zeeptin Posted June 10, 2022 Owner Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 Cool story dude 11 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Zeeptin said: Cool story dude Bro this is such a cool story. in all serious. I believe it still should be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilThinMints Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, Tomato said: The $100 Warn Wipe just a cash grab by the admins to attempt to bring back players to the server. This warn wipe is designed to bring back the worst members of the server instead of promoting new players. Here are some reasons this is a bad product to sell: 1. There are not alot of players still around from 2019 to 2020 that actively play on the server in the first place. 2. Most players have a warn or two from silly mistakes they made when they first joined the server. They have learned from their experiences and bettered themselves. I am an example of this. This warn wipe is for people who have so many warns they either left the server entirely or were banned. 3. The people who NEED this warn wipe are people we dont want on the server anyways. These are the people who didnt ever try to improve and just kept acting like idiots and ignoring the rules until they either left or were banned. 4. Warns should go away after a certain amount of time anyways. Asking for money to remove a warn is scummy. If it was something like $1 a warn then sure but $100 is insane. This warn wipe will attract toxic people back to this community and allow them an easy way back into the server. Why should they try and change when they could just pay their way back into the server and pick up where they left off not following rules and ruining the server (like ZJ)? Work on attracting new members to the community instead of trying to get kids to buy their way back in. -Tomato Hi, warn wipe representative here! Free Melly Free TayK Free Fetty Wap Free Pooh Shiesty Current Rank/s: none dumbass Former Ranks: E11 2LT, CI SM, RND SVA, Gen-Sec MSGT, Nu7 SGT, RRH Guardians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cecil Stedmen Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 tbh I gotta disagree with some of the points here, this isn't encouraging the "worst" people to hop on, it's encouraging people who have improved since then to come back. Knew a friend that back in 2019ish was a major minge and racked up 28 warns as a result, which when he returned in late 2021 he was still seen as a huge minge despite obvious signs of improvement, if they are willing to pay 100 bucks for a warn wipe, then they are highly likely there to start taking the server seriously. While I agreed with your previous post that criticized certain aspects of gaminglight, the warn wipe has given people a chance to improve themselves and if they keep fucking up they'll just end up right back to where they started. Former SCPRP: CI R&D Chief Director of Operations || Research Administrator || RFA Operations Advisory || RRH Analyst Xray 77 || CI General || Senior Event Team || CI Lieutenant Commander || Exemplary Investigator Award Recipient || STF D4 Poseidon PL7 || A1 SPC "Quantum" Former ImperialRP: Naval Captain || Security Director || GM VI Former PoliceRP: EMS Captain || RRU Rapid Response Team Manager || FBI Assistant Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Gonna go against you here Tomato. Good opinion piece however but food for thought. I think most of this anger would be better shifted toward paid blacklist appeals. You bring up ZJ as an example who was nowhere close in warns, just straight blacklisted. That paid appeal and subsequent re-blacklist still caused a massive damage to branches of his involvement. However here, warns are inherently nothing. At most would reset progress to the ban thresholds. High level offenses are often straight permenent or blacklisted and those can't be wiped. Low level offenses are managable by current staff. This package is at least reasonable to only date back to 2020 and before. Price a bit high? Sure. But the greater majority of those who absolutely NEED tend to have gotten them in quick succession very recently. Very very few would have like 39 warns from 2020 and coming back now. This was intended for those that had clean records from like 2021 on, is still here, and actually wants that clean record physically. And no, timed expiration is basically the same scenario as you bring here. Would be more choatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecil Stedmen Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Sparkle said: Gonna go against you here Tomato. Good opinion piece however but food for thought. I think most of this anger would be better shifted toward paid blacklist appeals. You bring up ZJ as an example who was nowhere close in warns, just straight blacklisted. That paid appeal and subsequent re-blacklist still caused a massive damage to branches of his involvement. However here, warns are inherently nothing. At most would reset progress to the ban thresholds. High level offenses are often straight permenent or blacklisted and those can't be wiped. Low level offenses are managable by current staff. This package is at least reasonable to only date back to 2020 and before. Price a bit high? Sure. But the greater majority of those who absolutely NEED tend to have gotten them in quick succession very recently. Very very few would have like 39 warns from 2020 and coming back now. This was intended for those that had clean records from like 2021 on, is still here, and actually wants that clean record physically. And no, timed expiration is basically the same scenario as you bring here. Would be more choatic. 100% agree, feel the focus should have been placed on this rather than the paid warn wipes; don't think people deserve to keep warns from 2017 that are especially heinous that clearly don't reflect their opinions or actions today Former SCPRP: CI R&D Chief Director of Operations || Research Administrator || RFA Operations Advisory || RRH Analyst Xray 77 || CI General || Senior Event Team || CI Lieutenant Commander || Exemplary Investigator Award Recipient || STF D4 Poseidon PL7 || A1 SPC "Quantum" Former ImperialRP: Naval Captain || Security Director || GM VI Former PoliceRP: EMS Captain || RRU Rapid Response Team Manager || FBI Assistant Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Operator Houston Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Gonna go against you here Tomato. Good opinion piece however but food for thought. I think most of this anger would be better shifted toward paid blacklist appeals. You bring up ZJ as an example who was nowhere close in warns, just straight blacklisted. That paid appeal and subsequent re-blacklist still caused a massive damage to branches of his involvement. However here, warns are inherently nothing. At most would reset progress to the ban thresholds. High level offenses are often straight permenent or blacklisted and those can't be wiped. Low level offenses are managable by current staff. This package is at least reasonable to only date back to 2020 and before. Price a bit high? Sure. But the greater majority of those who absolutely NEED tend to have gotten them in quick succession very recently. Very very few would have like 39 warns from 2020 and coming back now. This was intended for those that had clean records from like 2021 on, is still here, and actually wants that clean record physically. And no, timed expiration is basically the same scenario as you bring here. Would be more choatic. 100% agreed. the price may be steep, but this is for people who want to improve. Current: CI Military Private, Junior Maintenance Former: Nu-7 DHFTO 2LT, Delta-5 WO, Research Supervisor, RRH Analyst Alpha 19, SCP-RP Event Team Member, SCP-RP Senior Moderator Jetstream Sam Enthusiast | Gloveless Individual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 STRONG -SUPPORT Many people have stated some great reasons above, which I won't be going over, however I want to make something a little clear. Gaminglight is a business, it needs to make money, and it's going to find ways to make as much money as possible. Does Zeeptin make a truck load of money? Absolutely, but profit is a key incentive in business and that is not at all a bad thing, in fact it's to be expected. Is the package pricey? Definitely, but Gaminglight has 3 GMOD servers to run and manage, all with large dedicated playerbases that need to be satisfied, and maintaining and upgrading that kind of thing shockingly enough, costs money. I am no businessman, and I don't know how Gaminglight uses its money, however I certainly do not believe Gaminglight is trying to be the next EA here. Additionally, if someone wanted to spend $100 to wipe their warns, it's highly unlikely they'd do it to just get banned again. ZJ was a very rare case and after he did it like twice they just decided to stop letting him buy unbans. RETIRED Security Colonel / Warden Legate / Juggernaut Enforcer / Research Administrator / M.A.D. Site Operations Chief / RRA Professor / MTF Delta-5 'Front Runners' Captain / Veteran Raptor Operative / Internal Affairs Agency Assistant Director / MTF Nu-7 'Hammer Down' Captain / Covert Agent / Deputy Head Field Training Officer / UN Global Occult Coalition Corporal / Combat Medic Tactical Paramedic / R&D Scientist / Marksman Recon Specialist / MTF Alpha-1 'Red Right Hand' Major / Enforcer Squadron Lead "We are the first line of defense. We are the first responders tasked to save those in danger. We have the responsibility to ensure the safety and well-being of all staff members. Because of that, you are the bravest men I have ever had the honor to serve with.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Hehe warn go bye bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pills Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Ein said: STRONG -SUPPORT Many people have stated some great reasons above, which I won't be going over, however I want to make something a little clear. Gaminglight is a business, it needs to make money, and it's going to find ways to make as much money as possible. Does Zeeptin make a truck load of money? Absolutely, but profit is a key incentive in business and that is not at all a bad thing, in fact it's to be expected. Is the package pricey? Definitely, but Gaminglight has 3 GMOD servers to run and manage, all with large dedicated playerbases that need to be satisfied, and maintaining and upgrading that kind of thing shockingly enough, costs money. I am no businessman, and I don't know how Gaminglight uses its money, however I certainly do not believe Gaminglight is trying to be the next EA here. Additionally, if someone wanted to spend $100 to wipe their warns, it's highly unlikely they'd do it to just get banned again. ZJ was a very rare case and after he did it like twice they just decided to stop letting him buy unbans. this aint no suggestion Edited June 10, 2022 by Pills Former: 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐃𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐨𝐫 - 𝐒𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐀𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 Fair enough. Yall make good points Former DHOR Tomato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grеg Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Of course it is lol, its just warns but hey if i had a ton id buy it tbh Ranks: Security SM Greg | RRH Guardian Whiskey 11 Security Logo Designer | Premiere Club | #FreeMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its Buck Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Tbh I’m fine with the warn wipe package but i think it should show under the warns menu like *WARN WIPE PACKAGE CLEARED: XX WARNS* just so if staff go to look at someone’s warn history in a sit they know if there was prior incidents or if it is just worth a verbal warning. RETIRED SCP-RP:Delta-5 CPT | Deputy Head G9| Medical DHFW Doctor. | E11 1LT | Head Ranger | D4 Vanguard FF5 | RnD EOI V3 Canibal ImperialRP: MC 1LT Bacon 3817 | DT SGT FF5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyClone Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 or just don't buy it.... Retried: CI LTCMDR CI R&D AIN, E11 CPT, and Research Assistant Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyara Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Caroline said: 100% agreed. the price may be steep, but this is for people who want to improve. Ain't no one payin 100$ to improve unless they are sum rich white dude livin in Texas that owns 5 companies and names they're baby X Æ A-Xii. Former Nu7 Command Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IgnisNuts Posted June 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2022 now i dont like making the same joke twice but, you did invest in crypto... i think that says it all for how smart you are for financial decisions 8 CI CMDRCC: CI Requiem Squad XH-76 Biggest DMC Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardigan Backyardigan Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 here me out, if you think its a scam...... dont buy it!!!!!!! 1 SCP-RP: CI 2LT | SEC 2LT | Lumberjack Union Chief Logging Operator, S4 Avium SL1 | Retired Research Supervisor | Retired CI 2LT, 1LT | 2x Former SEC 1LT, Retired CPT Former WC Nemesis | Former Nu7 HFTO MAJ/A3 Tesla | Retired Admin CCs: MTF Rev 26 'Vigilant Hero' | Vonzen Plushie | STARS | D-9177 'The Pill' | CI TF2 Heavy Achievements: Staff Of The Month | 11x Staff Of The Week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 It is a scam but like who tf cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crunch Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 i mean it isnt your money so whats the issue server gotta make money i am always correct and will always be better than you #JusticeForTrojan #SlideForRacc #:3 Former: Imperial High Command | Deathtrooper Senior Commander | Senior Admin | Senior Forum Diplomat | Support Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jummy Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Crunch said: i mean it isnt your money so whats the issue server gotta make money this. Research Administrator | R.A.U. Commissioner | External Agent 3 "Oyasumi" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PryingTree Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I can't find it Nope, still can't find the cares It wouldn't allow me to put a link in here so you are stuck with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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