Add The Global Occult Coalition as a playable class/Branch - Denied

[[GL] Fizz-y Soda]

-Support

Let's add more GOIs to raid the foundation so Research and Utility can't RP anymore!

Look, it sounds hella cool, don't get me wrong. But RP branches already struggle with breaches, CI, and D class alone... Sarkics don't add that much unless multiple people flag on, but even then CI base is an easier target than Foundation. GOC pretty much teamed up with CI this past event which means it's going to be a lot of people screwing over foundation personnel. Roleplay is actually super fun when people actually get to do it. This is why I purposely don't cause too much havoc when I'm on Maynard because I actually like doings things with research and maintenance to keep my cover before breaching an SCP. But the site is always at a state where they cannot leave bunks. Only the seniors in those branches are allowed to leave at D2, but if lower enlisted can't even RP to get promoted that high, it's very discouraging. CI and GOC can raid one after another, keeping MTF super busy, causing them to not have any people to escort research, or help d-block for riots. (Let's be real, everyone knows D class use breaches and raids to their advantage to riot because they know backup won't arrive in time.) MTF will eventually just get tired of it all and flag off, the same way Gensec flags off when D-class outnumber them and take over LCZ. There will need to be a SHIT TON of MOTD rules implemented to make things fair for all branches, and allow all three GOIs to coexist on the server. It's gonna be very, very hard to execute this branch correctly. It's just not worth it. It's a very interesting event to have on standby. But let's keep it at that.

[Tomato]

For the record. the GOC wouldnt be raiding to attack the foundation. Just the SCP's

[Orange 🍊]

-Support
Not that practical on the server, considering their interactions with CI

2 hours ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said:

Let's add more GOIs to raid the foundation so Research and Utility can't RP anymore!

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Orange 🍊

[Pills]

2 hours ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said:

-Support

Let's add more GOIs to raid the foundation so Research and Utility can't RP anymore!

Look, it sounds hella cool, don't get me wrong. But RP branches already struggle with breaches, CI, and D class alone... Sarkics don't add that much unless multiple people flag on, but even then CI base is an easier target than Foundation. GOC pretty much teamed up with CI this past event which means it's going to be a lot of people screwing over foundation personnel. Roleplay is actually super fun when people actually get to do it. This is why I purposely don't cause too much havoc when I'm on Maynard because I actually like doings things with research and maintenance to keep my cover before breaching an SCP. But the site is always at a state where they cannot leave bunks. Only the seniors in those branches are allowed to leave at D2, but if lower enlisted can't even RP to get promoted that high, it's very discouraging. CI and GOC can raid one after another, keeping MTF super busy, causing them to not have any people to escort research, or help d-block for riots. (Let's be real, everyone knows D class use breaches and raids to their advantage to riot because they know backup won't arrive in time.) MTF will eventually just get tired of it all and flag off, the same way Gensec flags off when D-class outnumber them and take over LCZ. There will need to be a SHIT TON of MOTD rules implemented to make things fair for all branches, and allow all three GOIs to coexist on the server. It's gonna be very, very hard to execute this branch correctly. It's just not worth it. It's a very interesting event to have on standby. But let's keep it at that.

 

[[GL] Fizz-y Soda]

5 hours ago, Tomato said:

For the record. the GOC wouldnt be raiding to attack the foundation. Just the SCP's

Editing my last post to include this quote was acting funky so I'm gonna add one more post. (Mostly just gave up fighting with it)

Yes, I'm aware they target the SCPs, however you're threatening the integrity of the foundation by doing so, which would require MTF to step in and take action. What do they do once they find a GOI inside their secret lab? They attack. You're telling me you're gonna sit there and get shot? There will obviously be combat involved. While you're not targeting the personnel themselves, you'll still cause problems for them by being present. Similarly to when we take SCPs.

Like I said before, it's a really great idea and I would personally enjoy playing on this. But we need to take everyone else's roles into consideration when adding something like this.

Edited December 20, 2020 by [GL] Fizz-y Soda
Word choice.

[pixalgamer99]

I think the issue is that it isn’t thought out enough like A. They would need more ranks every branch has at least 5 enlisted ranks and multiple command ranks B. How would it work with CI and sarkics it seems like a tad much C. How are people gonna join the branch as it would at least need applications so it can have a starting roster D. Who is gonna be the director in charge of it ETC.

Edited December 20, 2020 by pixalgamer99

[Train Overlord]

To be honest. I am completely confused on how this GOC will play out. You offered maybe a basic understanding of it but don't dive into the complex aspects of it. Some of the questions I have is...

1. They work with the foundation? If their objective is to solely destroy SCP's that doesn't align with foundation interests at all then the foundation would never let you work with them. And you can't say you intend to hide this because in the opening message of this suggestion you openly say to the foundation you wish to destroy them. 

2. If even one of your members are seen in the act and somehow get interrogated wouldn't that blow the entire GOC?

3. How does the ranking structure work with the foundations if they are co-existing? 

4. How would your branch survive 2 days in the foundation? If the only thing you do is termination attempts its not something your going to be able to hide. Not to mention security, escorts, MTF and so on. It won't be long till you kill every SCP somehow.

5. Speaking of killing SCP's. If you do a termination on one of them and it works how does the RP reset work? If you log it somewhere then it happened and its canon, but the SCP resurrects itself? If you wanted to do RP Resets then  you couldn't log anything on it because it didn't happen.

Besides from the questions, the GOC seems to be limited in their goals. Having the one goal of destroying all SCP's doesn't seem like enough to base a entire new branch on in the server. Combine this with what Soda mentioned on considering other factions I genuinely believe this wouldn't work. It seems more like a organized group of Dr. Maynards

Don't get me wrong I don't think this doesn't have potential to be great. But its simply not thought out. 

-Support 

Edited December 20, 2020 by Train Overlord

[Echo Romeo]

17 hours ago, [GL] Fizz-y Soda said:

-Support

Let's add more GOIs to raid the foundation so Research and Utility can't RP anymore!

Look, it sounds hella cool, don't get me wrong. But RP branches already struggle with breaches, CI, and D class alone... Sarkics don't add that much unless multiple people flag on, but even then CI base is an easier target than Foundation. GOC pretty much teamed up with CI this past event which means it's going to be a lot of people screwing over foundation personnel. Roleplay is actually super fun when people actually get to do it. This is why I purposely don't cause too much havoc when I'm on Maynard because I actually like doings things with research and maintenance to keep my cover before breaching an SCP. But the site is always at a state where they cannot leave bunks. Only the seniors in those branches are allowed to leave at D2, but if lower enlisted can't even RP to get promoted that high, it's very discouraging. CI and GOC can raid one after another, keeping MTF super busy, causing them to not have any people to escort research, or help d-block for riots. (Let's be real, everyone knows D class use breaches and raids to their advantage to riot because they know backup won't arrive in time.) MTF will eventually just get tired of it all and flag off, the same way Gensec flags off when D-class outnumber them and take over LCZ. There will need to be a SHIT TON of MOTD rules implemented to make things fair for all branches, and allow all three GOIs to coexist on the server. It's gonna be very, very hard to execute this branch correctly. It's just not worth it. It's a very interesting event to have on standby. But let's keep it at that.

GOC is also used a LOT by ET

[Wheatley the moron]

+Support
I would like to see it but more like
U need to be  certain rank in Research/MTF/Utility |
 

[NeoID]

- Support 

- With how SCP-RP works, we need to keep order among branches. Not just CI and MTF, but Research, Utility, Gensec. It's all just one big system in the end. Run by order. This is just asking to break that entire system. Server is perfectly structured as is. 

- The resources for that would take away from other Branches and people.

- Server is already incredibly resourceful. 

- I cannot even begin to think of where their base would be.

- Already too many MTF/GOIs on surface, last thing we need is more lag on surface.

[[GL] Mike]

11 hours ago, NeoID said:

- Support 

- With how SCP-RP works, we need to keep order among branches. Not just CI and MTF, but Research, Utility, Gensec. It's all just one big system in the end. Run by order. This is just asking to break that entire system. Server is perfectly structured as is. 

- The resources for that would take away from other Branches and people.

- Server is already incredibly resourceful. 

- I cannot even begin to think of where their base would be.

- Already too many MTF/GOIs on surface, last thing we need is more lag on surface.

Also we already have Sarkics as a Donator Branch the only way I see this happening is if you reskin sarkics to be the GOC

[a frog]

On 12/19/2020 at 8:01 AM, frog said:

btw you do know they are a military orginization right so they should have a combat class to like escort the researchers

like i said when i posted on this there is legit no mention of a combat class so i dont really see why people think the goc would  fight the foundation like sarkic or ci?

btw the goc and foundation are more allied than  enemies as it has said on the wiki  quote: "The GOC has a complicated relationship with the SCP Foundation. The GOC is known to criticize the Foundation for the use of D-Class personnel (a UN human right's violation in their eyes) as well as not always destroying anomalies. The Foundation on the other hand do not always agree with the GOC's methods as well, stating that destroying something anomalous might sometimes make things worse, as there is no going back from it (see SCP-1609). Despite this, the two groups often act as allies when it comes to global threats, such as SCP-2845 or the Scarlet King."

Edited December 21, 2020 by frog

[Igneous]

Denied. The SCP-RP SMT has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason.