Some Weeb Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Your In-game Name:Gubby Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:491903989 The admin's name in-game: Sparkle The admin's steam name:[GL] RDSparkle What warning did you receive: Combat Healing When did you receive this warning:9/26/20 Why do you think this warn was false: Because at the time this happened I was behind the elevator's gate aka cover in which nobody can shoot me thus I am not in a active shoot out another thing is they literally aren't even shooting at me so how is this a shoot out if there is no shooting also in the end you can see to people rushing and I have my medkit out this is due to me being in the middle of applying a hemo and I can't actually switch to my weapon but before they shot I had a weapon out Evidence the warning is false:https://medal.tv/clips/33551861/Hxg6rl83rlYu Any extra information: N/A 1 1 1 SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Jack I the One & Only Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) +Support Whilst they were shooting in your direction, neither team would be able to hit the other, making it not active Personally, I don't see how this would be a formal warn rather than a verbal for trying not to heal while in almost-active combat Edit: further +support, doesn't even look like they're trying to shoot at you before or while you're healing Edited September 27, 2020 by [GL] Jack I the One & Only TCM Jack CI Heinz / J03 Italian Mob Boss Zepelli Former CI Research Administrator Heinz - Not [REDACTED] Researcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 +/- Support until I hear @Dectand @SparkleSide. [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I was given the exact video above, so how I saw this: His positioning of where he was healing was exactly ideal. He was directly in the line of sight of potential combatants that was only hindered by a couple gates of the elevator. I was thinking on if that gate were to go up what the implications would be. Putting himself in a position that would be considered active combat. Now the definition of "active" shootout is very up to us to determine, what constitutes active and what constitutes becoming inactive. I am okay of being told that my interpretation of this being "active" is wrong. I'll take any feedback from this appeal, accepted or denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dect Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sparkle said: I was given the exact video above, so how I saw this: His positioning of where he was healing was exactly ideal. He was directly in the line of sight of potential combatants that was only hindered by a couple gates of the elevator. I was thinking on if that gate were to go up what the implications would be. Putting himself in a position that would be considered active combat. Now the definition of "active" shootout is very up to us to determine, what constitutes active and what constitutes becoming inactive. I am okay of being told that my interpretation of this being "active" is wrong. I'll take any feedback from this appeal, accepted or denied. Multiple security personnel had an active visual on you making it so that we know it's you. The fact that we know it's you and not another ci member allows us to know that you're the one we were in combat with. With this information, we can see that he was indeed shooting at us which wouldn't end the combat session. we had active visuals on you and as long as the visual isn't broken I feel that the warning was necessary for the circumstances given as it is seen as a combat healing. If you're going by the logic that if he was taking cover he can heal during a firefight it would be hypocritical as it is the definition of still being relevant to the actual firefight. I don't see how this can not be seen as combat healing. I would love to see from your perspective to how this wouldn't be combat healing be put in more depth. I am open to any feedback on this situation but as of right now I will keep it at a -support 1 Former Security 2LT | Former EWD| Former OM5|Former Medical SM|Former Reznov Klushkie| Former SCP-RP Senior Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, Dect said: Multiple security personnel had an active visual on you making it so that we know it's you. The fact that we know it's you and not another ci member allows us to know that you're the one we were in combat with. With this information, we can see that he was indeed shooting at us which wouldn't end the combat session. we had active visuals on you and as long as the visual isn't broken I feel that the warning was necessary for the circumstances given as it is seen as a combat healing. If you're going by the logic that if he was taking cover he can heal during a firefight it would be hypocritical as it is the definition of still being relevant to the actual firefight. I don't see how this can not be seen as combat healing. I would love to see from your perspective to how this wouldn't be combat healing be put in more depth. I am open to any feedback on this situation but as of right now I will keep it at a -support -Support [ SCP RP ] Director of Research & Security || Armored Shield Award Winner || First Head Warden & HOPO || Security Artillery Unit || D-7025 || D-Class High Council || Former Head of Security || Former Admin || Former Event Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 + support - The security couldn't shoot him for a fair while as there was a barrier in the way so in my opinion he is out of combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skela Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 + Support. From what I see, he’s currently out of combat and is taking covered. The Gensec aren’t actively shooting at him either. Combat healing according to the MOTD states that they mustn’t be in any combat in order to heal. He’s hiding behind an area, Gensec not shooting at them until the very end which he had his shield out. Yuh imm@ Thash Dat B¡tch!!*^€{ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 +support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enuz 💣 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Dang said: + support - The security couldn't shoot him for a fair while as there was a barrier in the way so in my opinion he is out of combat. Former Head of Janitorial | HCZ man geer | lvl 70 life wizard | Roblox Clothing Designer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridian Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) +Support, I don't think this is combat healing as he was in cover, but it depends how long he was out of combat before hand I suppose Edited September 27, 2020 by Meridian || Retired GenSec || STARS || J04 "Crest" || Foul Tarnished || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Mike Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 -Support While he wasnt being damaged at the time yes he wasnt waiting the 10 Second out of combat minimum. (The rule has always been you must be out of combat for 10 Seconds before you may heal again) I know that because several people have been warned for that same reason before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 -Support An active shootout is a vague term to specify as such. Now the problem here is no time frame was mentioned but I have seen people get warned for healing within the 10 second timeframe. If it means I can take cover I could just get behind a wall and heal immediately after I get shot. This would constitute combat healing. 1 Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Boekhom Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, [GL] Zeus said: -Support An active shootout is a vague term to specify as such. Now the problem here is no time frame was mentioned but I have seen people get warned for healing within the 10 second timeframe. If it means I can take cover I could just get behind a wall and heal immediately after I get shot. This would constitute combat healing. Chad of many names Professional Shit talker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange 🍊 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) +/- The player was pretty much out of combat during healing, but an on going shoot out can be considered occurring as he keeps peeking. I think similarities should be compared here: Edited September 28, 2020 by Orange 🍊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milk Man Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 23 hours ago, Skela said: + Support. From what I see, he’s currently out of combat and is taking covered. The Gensec aren’t actively shooting at him either. Combat healing according to the MOTD states that they mustn’t be in any combat in order to heal. He’s hiding behind an area, Gensec not shooting at them until the very end which he had his shield out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 So the clip started with me behind cover so there is no way to tell however when I go back again before I got rushed I was out of com at for about 10 seconds SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dect Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Dragin said: So the clip started with me behind cover so there is no way to tell however when I go back again before I got rushed I was out of com at for about 10 seconds Here is another clip I snapped of it. You were not out of combat as I was still shooting you. You then instantly hopped over to heal yourself.https://medal.tv/clips/33636858/d13373GVpop1 Former Security 2LT | Former EWD| Former OM5|Former Medical SM|Former Reznov Klushkie| Former SCP-RP Senior Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) Thats a riot shield not a medkit the person healing me was Doom Guy as for the elevator you also stopped shooting are you gonna tell me that it's combat healing if someone shot a wall and there was someone healing on the other side its combat healing Edited September 28, 2020 by Dragin SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dect Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dragin said: Thats a riot shield not a medkit the person healing me was Doom Guy as for the elevator you also stopped shooting Being shot at still means that you were in combat. someone still shot a bullet towards you at the end if you look. you were still being shot at and being shot at means you were in combat. Edited September 28, 2020 by Dect Former Security 2LT | Former EWD| Former OM5|Former Medical SM|Former Reznov Klushkie| Former SCP-RP Senior Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 You can't even hit me dude. Just cause you guys think you can shoot through solid objects doesn't mean I am breaking the rules SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dect Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Just now, Dragin said: You can't even hit me dude. Just cause you guys think you can shoot through solid objects doesn't mean I am breaking the rules If you're being directly shot that means you are in combat. I don't understand how you still don't think that this isn't combat healing. Being shot at = combat. Meaning that your statement of saying that you were out of combat for 10 seconds is a lie. Former Security 2LT | Former EWD| Former OM5|Former Medical SM|Former Reznov Klushkie| Former SCP-RP Senior Moderator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) No it's not a lie incase you haven't read let me sum it up I was talking about the video in the appeal not this one that you didn't care to bring up till now also that person shooting at me at the end was using a tranq something that not only you can use against people but can be punished severely for so I am fine reporting you guys to for attempting to tranq humans if you would like Edited September 28, 2020 by Dragin SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enuz 💣 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 12 hours ago, [GL] Zeus said: -Support An active shootout is a vague term to specify as such. Now the problem here is no time frame was mentioned but I have seen people get warned for healing within the 10 second timeframe. If it means I can take cover I could just get behind a wall and heal immediately after I get shot. This would constitute combat healing. Former Head of Janitorial | HCZ man geer | lvl 70 life wizard | Roblox Clothing Designer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Weeb Posted September 28, 2020 Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, [GL] Zeus said: -Support An active shootout is a vague term to specify as such. Now the problem here is no time frame was mentioned but I have seen people get warned for healing within the 10 second timeframe. If it means I can take cover I could just get behind a wall and heal immediately after I get shot. This would constitute combat healing. No where in the MOTD does it state I have to be in cover for a certain amount of time and people can get into cover and heal it's what GENSEC do MTF everyone for example like the medical post when D class rush Medic's are always healing people when we barge in even after the sudden fact | Thanks for feedback though 16 minutes ago, enuz said: Edited September 28, 2020 by Dragin SCP-RP - Former: Moderator/ET, Security SFTO SM, Research Researcher, MTF Alpha-1 Sgt, MTF Alpha-1 "Alpha-6", Noob-7 Cpl, D5 RCT, R&D SIN, T-2 Blackjack, HFR, DHBI and E-11 DoFTO HCE SM | Current: CI Military DHLS SFTO SM Imperial-RP - Former - Moderator, Royal Guard Senior Guard, Shadow Guard Lead, Stormtrooper 2LT, 501st MSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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