OFC Mar Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Your In-game: Mar Your SteamID: STEAM_0:1:177712110 The admin's name in-game: will The admin's steam name (If you know it): no What warning did you receive: Failrp Evidence of the warn (REQUIRED): https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1019448055773384102/B99E6C00FA46482BDEC537BE09FB63DF85B6F80F/ Why do you think this warn was false: I did not know comms when striped are the same with panic so I pressed it and the person who was my kidnapper wanted the cops to know but did not wanted me warned but other wise I did. also kiddnapper was alex raddish Any extra information: Currently -- | COL of PD | EMT of EMS | LVL 7 of UMC | Staff | Owner of CC Mar and Sike | Lieutenant STATE | Forums Diplomat | Was -- | DAD of FBI | MSGT of HRT | SA of Secret Service | IRA | Support staff | Event Team | CC Member of HRT | CSM Of SCU 1R45 | Retired Chief Constable of SCO19 | DOC CPT | Things always come and go but its your choice to choose what you want to continue to see. - Mar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJayden Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) -Support Even if you didn't know you still broke a rule Edited May 17, 2020 by TheJayden TheJayden | Retired PoliceRP PD Colonel | Retired/Reserve Delta Squad Second Lieutenant | Street Crimes Unit Co-Commander | Member of Gaminglight since March 29, 2018 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Raddish Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) +Support I was the one who kidnapped Mar. It is a common misconception that Panic and Comms are separate. I've seen many people debate this before. I didn't call a sit on him, because it wasn't a big deal, but pulled over to explain to the pursuing officers that he didn't know. It was an honest mistake and I don't think an immediate warning was necessary. I think just explaining to Mar that they are in-fact separate and giving him a verbal not to do it again would've sufficed. No disrespect toward Will. Mar only has 1 week on the server. There's many blurry and or unspoken rules that aren't explained in-depth in the MOTD that people break unknowingly often. Mar has not been warned for FailRP before. He has very low warnings and personally, I don't think this should be one of them. Edited May 17, 2020 by Alex Raddish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burboon boi Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, TheJayden said: -Support Even if you didn't know you still broke a rule its up to admin discretion if someone should be warned, you broke a rule and will felt that you should be warned for it. Many of you do not know me, some of y'all do-ICON SCU DEPUTY COMMANDER,PD CPT,EMS,DELTA SQUAD,TROOPER,FBI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sion Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, TheJayden said: -Support Even if you didn't know you still broke a rule 'you may see my struggle, but you won't see me quit' 'Success depends on the second letter' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) +support if there was no sit why was he warned? just because some one makes a simple mess up doesn't mean people gotta be warn happy , verbal warns should be more of a thing This Type of behavior will scare possible new players away and other party wasn't mad about this Edited May 17, 2020 by Hannah SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer. Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, TheJayden said: -Support Even if you didn't know you still broke a rule Killer | Gaminglight Member Since 2016 | Retired PD Colonel l State Major l SPRT Co-Commander l FBI Assistant Director l UMC Level 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Lucifer Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Alex Raddish said: +Support I was the one who kidnapped Mar. It is a common misconception that Panic and Comms are separate. I've seen many people debate this before. I didn't call a sit on him, because it wasn't a big deal, but pulled over to explain to the pursuing officers that he didn't know. It was an honest mistake and I don't think an immediate warning was necessary. I think just explaining to Mar that they are in-fact separate and giving him a verbal not to do it again would've sufficed. No disrespect toward Will. Mar only has 1 week on the server. There's many blurry and or unspoken rules that aren't explained in-depth in the MOTD that people break unknowingly often. Mar has not been warned for FailRP before. He has very low warnings and personally, I don't think this should be one of them. Well if the main person involved in the warn said + supporting its removal well, I cant argue. [- Sector Advisor Lucifer | Head Admin of ImperialRP -] ~ Our duty as Soldiers is to protect the Empire, no matter the cost... ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sion Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just a reminder, it is the staff members discretion on what type of punishment will be given, may it be a verbal or a jail. The other party doesn't have much say in what will happen. Seeing how mar has been around for a decent amount of time, he should know by now panic is a form of communications... 'you may see my struggle, but you won't see me quit' 'Success depends on the second letter' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruben On The Radio Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 hours ago, TheJayden said: -Support Even if you didn't know you still broke a rule + it motivates you to prevent breaking rules in the future and get to know the rules. if you follow them, they can be appealed later "When something is important enough, you do it even if the odds are not in your favor. " - Elon Musk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hannah said: +support if there was no sit why was he warned? just because some one makes a simple mess up doesn't mean people gotta be warn happy , verbal warns should be more of a thing This Type of behavior will scare possible new players away and other party wasn't mad about this ^^^ 2 hours ago, Sion said: Just a reminder, it is the staff members discretion on what type of punishment will be given, may it be a verbal or a jail. The other party doesn't have much say in what will happen. Seeing how mar has been around for a decent amount of time, he should know by now panic is a form of communications... they don't have much in a say in it either when no sits were called specially when Alex reddish who was the kidnapper didn't mind and explained to officers the misunderstanding or given a opportunity to say they didn't realise. Rule broken? Yes. Warnable? Imho no, this would've been a verbal if anything I get staff have discretion when dealing out punishments BUT I truly believe the punishment doesn't fit the situation. I've seen time and time again and again even as my time as a staff member where situations like this specially with how he was sorry and didn't realise and that the person who would've called a sit(and rightfully did not since its a simple mistake and said panic was called false on and they got to rp out what they had planned for without so much of a drama) end in verbals. You also gotta realise every situation can and will be different and can't base previous experiences as the norm, if this was brought to a actual sit which it really should've I'm 100% certain this warn would've only been a verbal if it was. +support should've only been a verbal warn if you read into the situation and not just go and warn someone without getting the full picture. Edited May 17, 2020 by Phil GSC editssss 1 That bald Aussie Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Sion said: Just a reminder, it is the staff members discretion on what type of punishment will be given, may it be a verbal or a jail. The other party doesn't have much say in what will happen. Seeing how mar has been around for a decent amount of time, he should know by now panic is a form of communications... yes i agree but most staff members i deal with always listens to the party taking the sit but i really want to hear wills side for giveing him this warning because the person could already have alot of warns ig SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayden Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) -Support Truthfully, I understand that it is a common misconception but it is staff discretion. All staff members should be aware of this, which I'm sure Senior Admin Will was. Edited May 17, 2020 by Jayden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyGoose Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Well this is a stinky! Usually we as Senior Admins would TP to you and talk to you before warnings and explain why you are getting warned but if he didnt tp to you then idk. Need wills side tho! Former FBI COS | PD LT | DS PFC | Former HRT Overseer | Gaminglight PRP Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUH Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 15 hours ago, Alex Raddish said: +Support I was the one who kidnapped Mar. It is a common misconception that Panic and Comms are separate. I've seen many people debate this before. I didn't call a sit on him, because it wasn't a big deal, but pulled over to explain to the pursuing officers that he didn't know. It was an honest mistake and I don't think an immediate warning was necessary. I think just explaining to Mar that they are in-fact separate and giving him a verbal not to do it again would've sufficed. No disrespect toward Will. Mar only has 1 week on the server. There's many blurry and or unspoken rules that aren't explained in-depth in the MOTD that people break unknowingly often. Mar has not been warned for FailRP before. He has very low warnings and personally, I don't think this should be one of them. Returning soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, LuckyGoose said: Well this is a stinky! Usually we as Senior Admins would TP to you and talk to you before warnings and explain why you are getting warned but if he didnt tp to you then idk. Need wills side tho! ehh i rarely see this happen i just see most of them warn people off the bat and not say a word 1 SWAT PVT Hannah XR39-CPL Hannah King XC65 - Hannah King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head of Staff Will Posted May 18, 2020 Head of Staff Share Posted May 18, 2020 -Support The main reason as to why I warned you was because you were a high enough rank in FBI (SAIC is right below Low Command) to have known this stuff. Most of the people that responded to your panic told you on scene that it was FailRP so it was kinda explained to you there; eitherway, still a valid warning. If anything, I think that high command people should talk with one another and ensure that their FTOs or trainers are going over this (especially in PD and FBI since they are typically the first government roles people go into (FBI more for those with VIP+)). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 38 minutes ago, Will (WTLM2013) said: -Support The main reason as to why I warned you was because you were a high enough rank in FBI (SAIC is right below Low Command) to have known this stuff. Most of the people that responded to your panic told you on scene that it was FailRP so it was kinda explained to you there; eitherway, still a valid warning. If anything, I think that high command people should talk with one another and ensure that their FTOs or trainers are going over this (especially in PD and FBI since they are typically the first government roles people go into (FBI more for those with VIP+)). Ender | Former SWAT Lieutenant | Senior Low Command | SWAT FTO | Previous PoliceRP Administrator COL Will 1L52 to admins: Max, you ain't going to scare them, you are on a female model and stuttering... "So what're you doing?" - @SWAT LT Ender 22-D "Putting my clothes back on". - @SWAT SFC Nao 27-D "There's a fine line between right and wrong. And somewhere, in the shadows, they've sent us to find it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Veira Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) -Support In plain terms a rule was broken, in which a valid warn was given out. I agree that the situation could have been handled better and in more of a way to help you instead of just resorting to immediately warning you. I may not fully agree with how Will carried this out, however I don't see valid reason/evidence to appeal this. Edited May 18, 2020 by Alex Veira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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