David Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 What you want to see? - I would like to see each department have only one job that carries a shield and can only be used by 1 online player (1 slot job). Why should we add it? - I feel it would balance out gov v crim raiding. The only way to shoot a gov player with their shield out is going behind them or shooting them in the feet/legs. The only effective solution is shooting them while their back is turned. If they continue to back pedal and not give defenders a chance to deal damage then how is it fair? What are the advantages of having this? - I was just in a raid that had about 12+ government vs 6 criminals. Most of these government players had shields out and were back pedaling through the base. Not factoring in the imbalance of the number of raiding and defending players, there is a massive disadvantage for the defenders. Who is it mainly for? - This is mainly for the benefit of criminal players and the re-balance of government jobs. Links to any content - RETIRED! Ex 2iC of Shadow Legacy Ex S.W.A.T. Co-Commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Locus Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 -Support With the breaching charges being removed this is legit are only breaching tool outside of battering rams. This also hasn't been a problem that required anything such as a removal of a weapon from many units and it isn't game breaking now either. Us having shields actually is making it even as well due to the fact that you guys can have bases that lead to odd things such as us all having to run threw a 2 mile run that had 2-3 stories. Previous Positions: Ex-Death Trooper | Ex- Inferno Squad Leader | Retired HRT LT | Retired FBI DCOS | Retired FBI FTO DD | Retired PD Major Current Positions: SRT Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, [GL] Locus said: -Support With the breaching charges being removed this is legit are only breaching tool outside of battering rams. This also hasn't been a problem that required anything such as a removal of a weapon from many units and it isn't game breaking now either. Us having shields actually is making it even as well due to the fact that you guys can have bases that lead to odd things such as us all having to run threw a 2 mile run that had 2-3 stories. Alright im boutta head out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansbutbeans Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 -support shield have been on the server for years there are ways to combat them please fix ur base to allow for you to combat them Beans UMC LVL 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterson Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 37 minutes ago, David27 said: I would like to see each department have only one job that carries a shield and can only be used by 1 online player (1 slot job) So you want SMT to go through every department and make a NEW job, just to have a shield? Seems like a waste of time to me. -Support With the removal of some of the major tactics used by government over the past few months, from gas being only HC, and removal of breaching charges, it's becoming limited on what we can do and what we can train our units to do. Running in without a shield just to be sprayed down by a bunch of LMG's and snipers from all angles makes it almost impossible no matter how many gov agents you have in the raid. I think there are better ways you can adapt to this situation, include more attack points and make it so you are able to attack from all angles and not just limit it to one side that government can block with their shield. I get that you want to balance gov vs crim, but doing this I feel would change the balance and make it VERY crim heavy. I think how the items are now are some of the most balanced it's been in a long time, and it may just require adaptation from criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniEpic Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 -Support So your saying that 1 job like SWAT can only have one job like Peacemaker to have heavy shield no one else? So what's the point of having tactical units if they don't have shields? This doesn't make sense and should never be a thing on the server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00 𝓓𝓪𝓻𝓴 00 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 - Support -What the fu... -No -So IRL TAC units dont have a shield in their car? or anyother cops? 『PoliceRP』: 〖 Ex CERT Commander 〗〖 Last Dispatch Director 〗 『 ImperialRP』: 〖 Ex Second Sister 〗〖 Ex Seventh Sister 〗 『Staff』: 〖 Ex PoliceRP Senior Admin 〗〖 Ex PoliceRP Senior Event Team 〗〖 Ex Senior Forums Diplomat 〗〖 Ex Support Supervisor 〗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL]MyanDaBeast Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, [GL] Locus said: -Support With the breaching charges being removed this is legit are only breaching tool outside of battering rams. This also hasn't been a problem that required anything such as a removal of a weapon from many units and it isn't game breaking now either. Us having shields actually is making it even as well due to the fact that you guys can have bases that lead to odd things such as us all having to run threw a 2 mile run that had 2-3 stories. Having only one class on each department just sounds silly. And it's just as masterson said, gov tactics have been changing. The shields are a necessity to all TAC departments. Edited June 8, 2022 by [GL]MyanDaBeast PoliceRP I Head Admin I PD: Colonel I Retired SWAT Commander I Deputy Sheriff I ImperialRP I Retired Grand Inquisitor I 47th Battalion I Chimaera Legion I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share Posted June 9, 2022 The shield needs to be balanced some how. RETIRED! Ex 2iC of Shadow Legacy Ex S.W.A.T. Co-Commander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 -support you guys can have loads of friends all behind random walls within the base and its very hard for gov to enter with a shield, bare in mind not everyone uses a shield on a raid $500+ Donator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJTHEOG Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Tactical said: -support you guys can have loads of friends all behind random walls within the base and its very hard for gov to enter with a shield, bare in mind not everyone uses a shield on a raid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kcarma Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 16 hours ago, [GL] Locus said: -Support With the breaching charges being removed this is legit are only breaching tool outside of battering rams. This also hasn't been a problem that required anything such as a removal of a weapon from many units and it isn't game breaking now either. Us having shields actually is making it even as well due to the fact that you guys can have bases that lead to odd things such as us all having to run threw a 2 mile run that had 2-3 stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewy Minge Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 4:25 PM, Masterson said: So you want SMT to go through every department and make a NEW job, just to have a shield? Seems like a waste of time to me. -Support With the removal of some of the major tactics used by government over the past few months, from gas being only HC, and removal of breaching charges, it's becoming limited on what we can do and what we can train our units to do. Running in without a shield just to be sprayed down by a bunch of LMG's and snipers from all angles makes it almost impossible no matter how many gov agents you have in the raid. I think there are better ways you can adapt to this situation, include more attack points and make it so you are able to attack from all angles and not just limit it to one side that government can block with their shield. I get that you want to balance gov vs crim, but doing this I feel would change the balance and make it VERY crim heavy. I think how the items are now are some of the most balanced it's been in a long time, and it may just require adaptation from criminals. Said everything I wanted say lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy James Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 Denied. The SMT team for this server has decided against adding this suggestion for performance reasons, the benefit to the server, or another unstated reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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