Star Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Warro said: I only have to warn once the other stuff is jails and then ban You have to warn them again for jails and bans. Also, you are not supposed to jail for more then 300 seconds. Edited July 17, 2020 by Starstep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, Warro said: The first time i warned him then i look on the staff hand book it said jail for 600 secs so i did then bazooka said that he prop abused again so i looked and it said one day ban https://imgur.com/zrP1ENR The image you posted says you need to warn at the additional offenses. Unless I'm misunderstanding... CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Warro said: The first time i warned him then when he did it again i look on the staff hand book it said jail for 600 secs so i did then bazooka said that he prop abused again so i looked and it said one day ban https://imgur.com/zrP1ENR So, if it was propspam the warning should have clearly stated Prop abuse x 2 while it shows only once. Or even if he did it again you have to issue another warning And TMODs can only supposed to jail for 300 seconds so.. A tombstone is a petty prop in my opinion. A verbal would have sufficed imo +Support Edited July 17, 2020 by [GL] Zeus 1 Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDFvzbdraefDempsy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Warro said: There are prop logs showing him as an d Block spawning in props Thats regardless of the point. You HAVE to warn me three times. Edited July 17, 2020 by big man Dempsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warro Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 https://imgur.com/OFgViHk there is prop logs Just now, big man Dempsy said: Thats regardless of the point. You HAVE to warn me three times. No we dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDFvzbdraefDempsy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Just now, Warro said: https://imgur.com/OFgViHk there is prop logs Then shouldn't every single D Class who has placed a prop down get banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warro Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, [GL] Zeus said: So, if it was propspam the warning should have clearly stated Prop abuse x 2 while it shows only once. Or even if he did it again you have to issue another warning And TMODs can only supposed to jail for 300 seconds so.. A tombstone is a petty prop in my opinion. A verbal would have sufficed imo +Support I was told i can jail for 600 Just now, big man Dempsy said: Then shouldn't every single D Class who has placed a prop down get banned? No they get warned first just like u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Warro said: https://imgur.com/OFgViHk there is prop logs No we dont bruh CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dang Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Warro said: https://imgur.com/pUrx344 There is the warn Warro you forgot to warn him the third time when jailing him after telling me you did. Please next tell me the correct information before requesting a ban.Well in this case +support should of only be a jail and a second warn. Edited July 17, 2020 by Dang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warro Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Dang said: Warro you forgot to warn him the third time when jailing him after telling me you did. Please next tell me the correct information before requesting a ban.Well in this case +support should of only be a jail and a second warn. I gave him an verbal then an formal+jail then he got banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Bazooka Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 -Support Because clear evidence https://gyazo.com/0aec59edbac37d7f0671fea5bf49d474 https://gyazo.com/098e81791fa55295464074b33db1159c I called dang to deal with him once I saw him do it again Dang had nothing to do with this all he was doing was following the staff handbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warro Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, [GL] Zeus said: So, if it was propspam the warning should have clearly stated Prop abuse x 2 while it shows only once. Or even if he did it again you have to issue another warning And TMODs can only supposed to jail for 300 seconds so.. A tombstone is a petty prop in my opinion. A verbal would have sufficed imo +Support and he spawn props all over D Block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Fizz-y Soda Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Warro said: I gave him an verbal then an formal+jail then he got banned There's still one missing. If you gave a verbal, there should still be two warns. That's what everyone is trying to explain to you. CI CMDR / CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 It frightens me how a post can get nearly 40 replies within 30 minutes of post time, please refrain from arguing on the forum. Here is my speculation/assumption. When Dempsy was guilty of prop spawning and was brought to a staff sit by Bazooka, Bazooka gave him a verbal warning and let him off the hook. However, Dempsy repeated his offence and was brought to another sit by Warro. Warro gave him a formal warning and jailed him for 600 seconds, which is valid for a 600 seconds jail. At the end, either there was miscommunication between Dang and Bazooka, misinformed about how Dempsy have been warned only twice. Warro then requested a ban on Dempsy, hence why the ban stands even though the third ban wasn't issued. Hence, the ban isn't valid. +support 1 osu! achiever? I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDFvzbdraefDempsy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, [GL] Bazooka said: -Support Because clear evidence https://gyazo.com/0aec59edbac37d7f0671fea5bf49d474 https://gyazo.com/098e81791fa55295464074b33db1159c I called dang to deal with him once I saw him do it again Dang had nothing to do with this all he was doing was following the staff handbook Again. Where are the warnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Warro said: I gave him an verbal then an formal+jail then he got banned Only two warnings were issued. Three should've been given out. In this case, two formal warnings, and 1 verbal. The ban is only a day long. I do believe that @Warro should use this as a learning experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Inaccurate Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Please refrain from arguing on the post. As for the appeal +Support issuing admin wants it removed. "Pay increase declined. Welcome to the Foundation, get used to it." -O5-6 3rd time Head of Medical Staff | Ex-Director of Research and Security | Ex-Director of Utility | Ex-Senior Admin for SCP-RP | Ex-Admin for TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warro Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, big man Dempsy said: Again. Where are the warnings. You got multiple verbal warning by me and bazooka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zone Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 @Warro The ban was invalid, the arguments are over, Dang has revoked the ban.. Requesting a Forum Diplomat to lock this post. 1 1 Ashie •﹏•#1201 Former CI 2LT Zone | E11 WO Nines 009S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[GL] Zeus Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Warro said: I was told i can jail for 600 No they get warned first just like u It’s in the staff handbook and you not knowing that Is a bit concerning Like I said in my previous comment the warning should have prop spam x2 or x3 . I personally am not one to give out warns for one d class placing a single prop and especially if it wasn’t hurting anyone else’s playability a verbal would have sufficed. But it’s the staff member’s description. The warnings have to be updated or another warning must be issued if that was the case. I find a couple of things here which violate the staff handbook in what y’all did. In conclusion there was issues on both sides, one maybe more than the other, Im gonna say a ban wasn’t necessary+Support as even the issuing admin wants it revoked Also can we please stop going back and forth arguing? It’s gonna get this post locked. Please take it to PMs Edited July 17, 2020 by [GL] Zeus Former || SCP-RP: Commander of Epsilon-11 || Chaos Insurgency Captain || Senior Admin || Forums Diplomat || Rho-36 Arcane Autonomous Scout || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 -/+Support leaning towards -Support. Its a day ban, by the time Rookie get around to this, it will already be done with. Also, he was spawning props 3 times as a D-Class, and then after being jailed, went back to doing it. Obviously being jailed didn't make an impact because he broke the same exact rule. Former Security Captain | Former RCF Commander | Former Admin of SCP:RP | King Penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gunther said: -/+Support leaning towards -Support. Its a day ban, by the time Rookie get around to this, it will already be done with. Also, he was spawning props 3 times as a D-Class, and then after being jailed, went back to doing it. Obviously being jailed didn't make an impact because he broke the same exact rule. The ban was already revoked. No further discussion is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mint Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 +support MTF Nu7 Major || E11 1LT || Old CI SGT || Ret.LeadResearcher || || RHO-36 Penumbra Squad || || Mikes Favorite Son || OH3 RRH || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookieblue Posted July 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2020 Jesus christ, this has been up for 34 minutes and I'm already having to lock it. Give a guy some time 1 6 Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookieblue Posted July 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2020 Denied After reviewing the evidence provided, speaking with the trial moderators and admin involved, as well as speaking with the appealate himself, the following occurred: Dempsy switched to a D-Class job and began spawning props. Trial Moderator Warro observed this, deleted the props, and gave a verbal warning to not spawn props. According to the staff handbook, a first offense prop spawn can be handled by a verbal or formal warning with the staff member's discretion. After this incident, Dempsy continued to spawn props, not complying with Trial Moderator Warro's order, as well as continuing to break the MOTD. At this point, Trial Moderator Warro issued a formal warning to Dempsy, and issued a 600 second jail time, again, in line with the staff handbook guidelines. However, as a trial moderator Warro is not authorized to issue jail times above 600 seconds unless consulting with a Moderator +. This did not happen, and Warro has been spoken to regarding this. After the jail time concluded, Dempsy continued to spawn props, continueing to disregard the MOTD, and continueing to not comply with staff. This was observed by Trial Moderator Bazooka, who had been informed that Dempsy had been prop spawning despite multiple warnings not to. Trial Moderator Bazooka requested a ban be issued, in line with the staff handbook's recommendation for a third offense prop spawn, and the ban was issued by Admin Dang. Trial Moderator Bazooka neglected to issue an accompanying formal warning, and has been spoken to about this, and has since been rectified. I spoke to Dempsy regarding his conduct, and asked if he was aware he was not supposed to spawn props as a D-Class, to which he replied, "I thought that was more prop blocking". However, the MOTD can not be more clear on the subject: Class D personnel are never allowed to spawn props. I asked Dempsy why he continued to spawn props after receiving a verbal warning, formal warning, and a jail, to which he replied, "I was just fucking around." Based on Dempsy's continued violation of the MOTD regarding prop spawning, his continued failure to comply with staff requests and orders to stop spawning props, and the number of staff contacts this generated, I am upholding the ban requested by Bazooka and issued by Dang. This player will remain banned for one day. 7 Retired SCP-RP Head of Staff March 3rd, 2019 - December 16th, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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